Per Report, Harbaugh would take Minter and Jay to LA
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:31 PM ^
Isn’t this like, two stories down?
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:26 PM ^
Looks like 2 down is… within striking distance.
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:57 PM ^
At least Aaron Wilson in Houston is giving us good insider info FFS, just waiting for an update from Bob our first time caller, long time listener in Santa Fe. A-Aron is trolling for clicks.
January 24th, 2024 at 12:57 AM ^
FWIW, the actor who played A-Aron is Zack Pearlman, HUGE UM fan and A2 native!!
January 23rd, 2024 at 8:32 PM ^
No, This posting should not be negged as a repeat. This story is supplying additional information. This story purports to have insider information that if the deal is signed Jim will definitely be bringing Minter and Jay with him. (And probably just them.)
January 23rd, 2024 at 8:32 PM ^
Oops! Dreaded double tap.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:34 PM ^
Not sure if we can trust this source that can't use google:
"and son Jay Harbaugh, who is the running backs/ assistant special teams coach"
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:03 PM ^
Also weird when that article says Harbaugh knows Greg Roman because "Harbaugh's brother, of course, is the coach of the Ravens where Roman was last offensive coordinator" ...ignoring that JIM Harbaugh virtually made Greg's career first at Stanford, and then with the 49ers, rather than just knowing him tangentially through his brother. Seems sus.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:44 PM ^
Jay hasn't coached the RBs since before COVID. That also jumped out to me as weird. Some FanNation sites, as some others have noted here, are basically a step above random fan's personal diary, it can be pretty mixed bag. That said, I think other sources are now reporting this, so we'll see.
Here's my overall coaching change take... yes losing Jim will be big. Jesse as well. But sneaky important loss is Jay Harbaugh. He's been successful with every position group he's had... from RBs, to TEs, to now Safeties. Plus Special Teams, like Uncle John who started as a Special Teams guy. People "sleep" on Jay because of his last name I think. He'd be a sneaky important loss if he goes too.
Like Brian mentioned on the pod recently, hopefully Jay looks to spread his wings and start to carve out a space in the coaching landscape of his own.
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:13 PM ^
I remember on this board when Jim brought Jay in and people were upset as nepotism was coming into play. Fast forward, and unless he had help coaching each position, he was a DUDE. To your point, Jay didn’t get the credit he deserved and I think he will be a key piece that will be missed. He needs to carve his own path at this point, unless his goal was to coach in the NFL.
January 23rd, 2024 at 9:17 PM ^
Nepotism was coming into play. Then Jay proved himself as an awesome coach! Its rare but he is a damn solid coach.
January 23rd, 2024 at 6:52 PM ^
Agree from a Jay is awesome and sneaky good standpoint. Also agree from a career standpoint going out on his own makes sense.
However, from a life standpoint, what's the point unless you're that competitive? He gets to be around his Dad every day. He gets to have cousins/family support for his wife and his kids. Gets to be around his grandparents. Gets to make big $ without the stress of being the CEO. Lots to enjoy right now. Head coaching will be there if he's good enough, one way or the other.
January 23rd, 2024 at 7:55 PM ^
I don't know Jay, so I won't proclaim to know what his goals in life are or what he values. But a young aspiring football coach is generally going to look to the "climb the ladder" because they're all that competitive. Even if he has a great home life and family.
Here's what caught my eye: "Head coaching will be there if he's good enough, one way or the other." not to get too legalistic or nitpicky... but not really. A good example could be Mike McDonald and Jesse Minter. Both spent time as an analyst on the Ravens staff. In 2021, both went off to become a DC at a D1 school in a major conference.
One is now at the top of potential lists to be an NFL Head Coach. The other isn't being considered by the NFL as a HC at all. Why? Because in 2022, one went on to be highly successful at another D1 school, the other went on to be highly successful in the NFL.
Long metaphor short... Head Coaching won't just "be there" even if he's good enough. One could make an argument that Jesse is just as "good" as Mike. Hard to know. But MM has the experience. He did the extra steps to put himself in that position. Point being, you have to do the steps AND be good enough.
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:57 PM ^
Thank you for the post. From all the above, should I (I do) conclude that the article was AI written. I have noticed a slew of articles where the paragraphs don't seem to be in any order and odd things are emphasized as well as a direct contradiction to the headline.
January 23rd, 2024 at 8:22 PM ^
After the Rose Bowl, Jay is pretty lucky to still have a job!
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:34 PM ^
Yeah, that sounds about right. I'm sure all will/would consider their options at that point.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:34 PM ^
"according to many experts and pundits" FFS
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:11 PM ^
Also headline: "Jim Harbaugh Will Reportedly Bring Staff From Michigan To LA"
Text in article: "Harbaugh would bring along Michigan defensive coordinator Jesse Minter and son Jay Harbaugh..."
Actual tweet: "Per league sources, offensive coordinator could be Greg Roman, defensive coordinator Jesse Minter and special teams coordinator Jay Harbaugh"
We go from "could" to "would" to "will"
This is speculation of the highest order.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:37 PM ^
Like Brian mentioned on mgoblog roundtable last week, if Jay knew what was best for him he’d stay. It’d be a good idea to finally get coaching experience that isn’t under a head coach who’s either his father or his father’s brother. Fair or not, teams will be hesitant to take a shot at him as a coordinator with the nepotism tag that’ll keep airing over his head if he continues to exclusively work for his father or uncle.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:17 PM ^
I've started to think he doesn't care about this.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:36 PM ^
I also have wondered if he has any ambition beyond being an assistant for his father or uncle.
Another thing for him to consider--if he cares--is that while he's appreciated here, other fan bases cannot be trusted to look past the nepotism and properly judge him. The Chargers fans are already complaining that Jim will bring Jay who they believe almost single handedly brought down our championship season because of one bad game from special teams in the Rose Bowl.
Washington NFL fans never thought Kyle Shanahan was any good simply because he was the coach's son.
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:08 PM ^
I think he enjoys being around his Dad, Grandpa, and nieces and nephews. Also having his kids around them too. That's a big draw.
He's a take at almost any school or NFL team as a position Coach. Maybe not any coaching position at any team of his choice, but if he wanted to go to the NFL he could get a position coach job. It's only a question if can he get a good college coordinator job without spreading his wings. I agree he likely doesn't care.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:23 PM ^
Rip the bandaid off Jimmy. Start writing up Moore’s contract Warde.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:58 PM ^
Eh, as someone who would love to go golfing one more time with my dad, Jay should cherish the time together as long as he has it. If he enjoys working with his father and the time that entails, then stay on his staff as long as he wants to. You can't get that time back later...
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:22 PM ^
Or Jay could not care about the nepotism label and have his kids live near their grandparents, also a worthwhile consideration.
Post above was a second faster
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:38 PM ^
Not sure any of us have a better idea of "what would be best for Jay" than he does. Especially when our suggestions just happen — purely coincidentally, of course — to align with our own personal desires to have him stay here.
Jay, if following Jim to SoCal makes you happy, Godspeed and good luck. Life is short.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:37 PM ^
Interesting that Aaron has no idea that Jaybaugh is the special teams coordinator and coaches the safeties, but he's certain that he'll follow his dad to the NFL.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:44 PM ^
I knew Jay was the Special Teams coordinator but I didn’t realize he was also the safeties coach. Our safeties have been incredible. He really does a fantastic job wherever they put him.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:37 PM ^
I'm also reporting that Jay would go with Jim IF he leaves. My source? Just a gut feeling but apparently that counts as a source these days.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:46 PM ^
You should also claim to be an NFL insider because somehow being a local Houston news channel guy makes you one.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:22 PM ^
Well guts have a direct line to the ass, where most of this shit gets pulled from.
No pun intended.
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:10 PM ^
Username checks out.
January 23rd, 2024 at 5:11 PM ^
Username checks out. Doubly, so.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:37 PM ^
Someone texted me a few days ago and told me that Harbaugh was gone. A quick search revealed that the only person claiming it in that 30 second time period was Yoder. When it's done we will all have solid sources in seconds. Until then just don't do it.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:40 PM ^
It's fantastic to see that someone from Houston has the local contacts in LA to report this breaking news. Who is this guy?
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:50 PM ^
I believe it's Champ Kind. He may go to Sea World and take his pants off. He's kinda famous for his catchphrase "Whammy!" /s
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:40 PM ^
I do enjoy that everyone is an "insider". Guess it sounds better than "educated guesser".
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:13 PM ^
Well hey, he has been a local NFL beat writer for the last 20 years... I'm sure he has better sources than every other local NFL beat writer, national NFL writer, and actual insider.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:48 PM ^
Maybe he means he will coach rbs inline he did that before Mike got here, and his record was good having recruited the likes of Hassan Haskins, Zach charbonnet and Blake Corum.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:49 PM ^
"...when/if it does take place, MGoBoard insider rob f reports that Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh will bring along his wife Sarah and their school-age children, all of whom are strongly rumored to be part of the "vast network". "
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:52 PM ^
Now THIS I believe!
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:54 PM ^
Jack and Jackie will also tag along (Mom & Dad).
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:59 PM ^
I heard an Insider say that Harbaugh was looking for ten (10) Disneyland admissions with Genie Plus passes while he's in southern California.
Any chance those are for his wife, parents, and kids joining him on the journey - plus a few "tag along" friends of the family?
Again - this was shared in strictest confidence - and, hopefully, no Advanced Scouting rules were violated by reporting this.
P.S. - I don't know about Minter's or Jay Harbaugh's family status - e.g. married, kids, etc. But, I'm sure that Sherrone Moore's daughter (and wife) would enjoy a day at Disneyland too.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:08 PM ^
rumor has it, in order to counter whatever the chargers might offer, you said you'd give harbaugh your old mountain bike and your cousin's snow machine and ice fishing outfit if he'd stay.
very solid rumor. i read it. i mean, i wrote it down, and then i read it.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:50 PM ^
Jay Harbaugh is the big loss nobody has been talking about. Everything is focused on Harb, Minter, and Moore but Im pretty sure Jay is the guy who found Corum, Loveland, and some other major contributors.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:53 PM ^
Who the hell is Aaron Wilson, and how did he get so close to Harbaugh that he's able to access information nobody else can? I'm sure this has been happening since the first "insider" wrote on a stone tablet. However, it seems like the media has decided to say "hold my beer" when it comes to throwing potentially true information at the wall and seeing if it sticks.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:11 PM ^
I refuse to believe that some dude I’ve never heard of who shleps for “channel 2” is an NFL insider with knowledge of anything but where to get a good sandwich in Houston.
January 23rd, 2024 at 3:53 PM ^
This "report" is obviously bullshit, but I will say this. If JH leaves, we are probably fucked six ways from Sunday. I fully expect many, if not all, of the coaches to leave, and a mass exodus to the portal. And we can kiss that great culture goodbye.
I do not understand the optimism on this board.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:03 PM ^
I think if Moore is promoted he is able to keep several assistants on both sides of the ball, and probably most of the players too. That's the main reason why I want him if Harbaugh leaves.
January 23rd, 2024 at 4:13 PM ^
If he can't keep Minter, i'm fairly indifferent. Head coaching changes are almost always messy. Alabama was a machine and look at the turnover they are having. Michigan just needs to get the hire correct. Worrying about messing up the current culture is fools gold. Long term culture is the key. If they think Moore is the guy to keep the train rolling, then so be it, but lets not act like there isn't a risk giving the keys to a first time head coach just because the current players like him a lot. I'd say its prob more of a risk than doing a full search and bringing in a new guy.