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January 27th, 2013 at 2:41 AM
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Perhaps the no. 1 reason for such tremendous success in recruiting

Who among us has ever witnessed a coach that seemingly hates their job more than any other person than one Mark Dantonio who resides in a city somewhere in Michigan. It appears, based on the words of an MSU alum, he approaches recruiting in the same manner he does gamedays. Following are his words:

¨Brady Hoke walks into the school and acts like he's your buddy,¨ a high school coach recently told us.¨He will put his arm around you, act like he's known you forever: he's just a very personable guy. When Mark Dantonio walks into your school, on the other hand, it feels like your players are being recruited by a graphic calculator.¨

-Unnamed MSU Alum/athlete, current high school football coach-

I can name two other coaches who recruited in the manner Brady does and their names are Bo and Woody. The separation has, obviously, begun in earnest and the results will mirror those after the MSU timekeeper gave Smoker an opportunity to go into overtime without the benefit of a time game and not allowing UM to do the same.

 

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:44 AM | I'm here for the Kate Upton (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm here for the Kate Upton .gifs.

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:46 AM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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January 27th, 2013 at 4:18 AM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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January 27th, 2013 at 7:45 AM | Is there such a thing as a (Score:5 Normal)
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Is there such a thing as a Kate Upton GIF in which her boobs aren't bouncing?

If so, I do NOT want to see it.

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January 27th, 2013 at 8:57 AM | no... (Score:5 Normal)
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They are in perpetual motion.

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January 27th, 2013 at 9:59 AM | iPhone (Score:5 Normal)
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An object in motion wants to stay in motion

If you see someone in an airport with Michigan logos on luggage and they are wearing a pilot uniform come say hello.

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January 27th, 2013 at 10:11 AM | Or two objects (Score:4 Normal)
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Or two objects

Inspiring haters to hate since 1817.

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:46 AM | The No.1 reason for success (Score:4 Normal)
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The No.1 reason for success in recruiting is Greg Mattison.

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:57 AM | Oh? Is Green playing defense (Score:5 Normal)
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Oh? Is Green playing defense now?

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:15 AM | Greg Mattison recruits (Score:5 Normal)
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Greg Mattison recruits players on both sides of the ball.  For example, he recruited Dunn last year. Also, I was not speaking specifically of Green, but of the recruiting class in general.

Even Meyer said that Mattison was the best recruiter he had ever seen, so I'm not sure how it's trolling to acknowledge this fact.

 

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:24 AM | He was also the main (Score:5 Normal)
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He was also the main recruiter for Tebow while he was at Florida

Special Teams means special times!

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:18 AM | Exactly (Score:5 Normal)
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That was the rap on Mattison even before he arrived: damn good X's and O's guy, but an even better recruiter.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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January 27th, 2013 at 11:14 AM | Dunn? (Score:1 Normal)
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of course, limited number of recruiters lead to coaches being assigned geography (not position) for travel reasons .  Dunn seems like a poor example to illustrate to prowess of M football recruiting. any other examples?

pbmd

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January 27th, 2013 at 11:20 AM | Greg Mattison is Awesome (Score:3 Normal)
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Greg Mattison is awesome but I don't trust a thing Meyer says.  Don't trust him!

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:12 AM | Really? (Score:2 Normal)
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That's all you got?? C'mon man.

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:23 AM | Greg is a major part of it, (Score:5 Normal)
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Greg is a major part of it, but Hoke is the closer.

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:24 AM | Green agrees (Score:5 Normal)
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"Coach Hoke is a great coach but even a better man and he's definitely a father figure."

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January 27th, 2013 at 9:11 AM | one of the more insightful (Score:5 Normal)
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and concise explanations I have seen in a while.  In about 15 seconds, he says it all:

  1. relationship with coaches
  2. Earlier contribution as a freshman
  3. Hoke is a great coach, but even a better man and father figure
  4. Michigan feels like home.

 

 
 

Time is working funny again. Greg Mattison has a phonebooth time machine he sent the secondary back to Charles Woodson's childhood in; they have emerged with ZZ Top beards, children, and skills.-BC

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January 27th, 2013 at 10:37 AM | I especially liked the part about (Score:3 Normal)
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Greg Mattison.

I think that Hoke is a force in his own right.  We are furtunate to have both.

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:12 PM | well (Score:1)
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stated consise and to the point. I would imagine everyone of these kids that sign in Feb will have some variation of what you just wrote as their reason for coming to Michigan.

early playing time

great class/great teamates

love for the coaches/admiration/great guys/father figures

tradition

fandom/dream school

 "Runnnn!!! get to da choppa"

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January 27th, 2013 at 9:30 AM | Voice (Score:3 Normal)
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Wow, I thought that was Charles Woodson talking. The similarity is striking.

Huge pickup and now we'll win the NC for sure in 2 years.

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January 27th, 2013 at 10:19 AM | fer sure? (Score:3 Normal)
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I want UM to dominate and win a NC (and more) like you but come one man, nothing is for sure!

Individual talent doesn't mean squat if you a team doesn't execute. A great recruiting class is just one piece of the puzzle. Let's see how the coaches and the kids come together as a team and go from there.

"The street legend is back, bitches!"

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January 27th, 2013 at 10:48 AM | So very true. Unfortunately, (Score:2 Normal)
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So very true. Unfortunately, this guarantees nothing. I remember Ohio predicting multiple NCs when Pryor committed.

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January 27th, 2013 at 11:41 AM | They may not have won a MNC (Score:4 Normal)
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They may not have won a MNC but I would be pretty d@mned happy if UM had the onfield success that OSU enjoyed while Pryor was there. Hopefully, with out all the cheating and stuff.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:53 PM | heh. (Score:3 Funny)
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Yeah, I'd like less of their off field success...

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:18 AM | Sorry, no. (Score:5 Normal)
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You know I love ya, GhostYost, but it's all Hoke. He's the f**kin man.

Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!

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January 27th, 2013 at 12:58 PM | Sometimes... (Score:5 Normal)
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Sometimes I think GhostOfYost is actually the infamous Drew Sharp and is trolling us all.

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:58 PM | Mattison is definitely very (Score:2)
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Mattison is definitely very good, but don't sell Hoke short as a recruiter.  He was our designed West Coast guy under Carr and landed one Tom Brady (not mention Justin Fargas, who was the #1 RB in the country his senior year).

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:52 AM | starting a post about (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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starting a post about michigan recruiting with Dantonio in the first sentence will never work. 

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:26 AM | just tell me what works for you (Score:5 Funny)
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so i don't lose any more sleep worrying about it.

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January 27th, 2013 at 9:48 AM | How about writing (Score:3 Normal)
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How about writing intelligible sentences. That would work also; that last one in the OP was awful. 

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January 27th, 2013 at 12:22 PM | First one was as far as I (Score:1)
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First one was as far as I could get.

Except for the other thing. That hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most.

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:53 AM | My girlfriend and I met (Score:5 Normal)
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My girlfriend and I met Dantonio at the Susan G. Komen 5k in Lansing last year and she got a picture with him for her dad who likes the Spartans. When we asked to get a picture he nodded and after we thanked him and wished him luck and he didn't say a word to us. Not a single word in our interaction.

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:23 AM | Did you have any UM gear on (Score:4 Normal)
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Did you have any UM gear on at the time?  That would be the only way he'd get a pass on such douchery.

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:26 AM | Did you ever read what Bacon (Score:5 Normal)
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Did you ever read what Bacon wrote about him in 3 and Out?

Dantonio gets off the bus for a game in Ann Arbor and one of the non-coach M football employees (I think it was Jon Falk) welcomes him, and Dantonio says "Get the fuck out of here."

Dude's a massive douche. It has been proven.

Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!

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January 27th, 2013 at 10:17 AM | Science! (Score:3 Normal)
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Science!

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January 27th, 2013 at 11:29 AM | Apparently Dantonio Douchery (Score:3 Normal)
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Apparently Dantonio Douchery runs in the family. His brother used to be a yard manager for a competitor of a sister company to mine and a few people hate the Spartans just because of Morks brother.

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January 27th, 2013 at 11:35 AM | It wasn't Falk... (Score:5 Normal)
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It was just one of the usher type guys who is assigned to keep that area clear and credential people and what not.  Falk is WAY too busy before games to be out greeting the other team.  Besides, Jon Falk probably wouldn't be treated that way by any opposing coaches.  He's well known throughout the country and is pretty much buddies with everyone (even though, or maybe because, he's the dirtiest, and funniest, old man you've ever met).  

I've never met Dantonio myself, but the anecdotal evidence which supports his doucheholery is pretty substantial.

...I can puncho yo buns...

 

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January 27th, 2013 at 1:27 PM | Just to be clear... (Score:5 Normal)
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The correct quote (yes, it was Dantonio talking to a Michigan Stadium volunteer) was "Get the hell outta here."

And yes, Dantonio is just enough of a douchebag to taunt Jon Falk.  Also from Three and Out, Dantonio saw Falk at halftime of the 2008 game and told Falk to make sure that he put the Paul Bunyan Trophy in the Spartans locker roome so that it would be there as soon as the game was over. 

 

 

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January 27th, 2013 at 12:56 PM | No M gear that day. A friend (Score:4 Normal)
LongLiveBo
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No M gear that day. A friend of ours had just beat breast cancer and a big group of us all had on team shirt for her. If you are part of a team that raises money the team shirt is very common at that race. We didn't even mention being M fans.

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:45 AM | Perhaps it's the fact that (Score:5 Normal)
Bad MotherHoker
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Perhaps it's the fact that this staff as a whole treats these kids like part of a family, not just a player to fill a position of need.

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:11 AM | Another reason (Score:4 Normal)
Felix.M.Blue
Joined: 10/22/2011
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Up till now Hoke has been able to sell early playing time to the recruits.

That's not the #1 reason for the sucess but it is a reason.

Another reason is the relationships these coaches have made with the HS coaches around the country. I think they have earned their trust, they do it the right way and they know they will be treated well.

 

"I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member" - Groucho Marx

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:32 AM | You copied and pasted this from a Rivals (Score:0 Normal)
hart20
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Inside the Fort article. Great job with taking this paywalled stuff.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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January 27th, 2013 at 11:30 AM | sucker (Score:5 Normal)
jdon
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paying for recruiting info is like paying for sex;  it's quick and easy but you could get the same thing by just going ouy looking for it.

 

We are the dead.

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:13 AM | Success of that type is surely influenced (Score:3 Normal)
Muttley
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by Lloyd Carr

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:22 AM | I don't know if I'd say (Score:4 Normal)
Decatur Jack
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I don't know if I'd say Dantonio hates his job. Like any die hard buckeye, he took it for the sole reason of wanting to beat us.

So while it's not fair to say that he hates his job (or that there is no one who hates their job more), it is fair to say that recruits might not respond to him because he's a tool and a douche.

Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:33 AM | Grumpy Dirty Old Bastard (Score:4 Normal)
Maizenblueball
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Exactly, Dantonio just seems like a grumpy old bastard.  I can handle being around grumpy people for short periods of time, but if given the choice, I'd much rather be around someone like Hoke who is friendly and funny...and apparently the proof is in the recruiting pudding. 

Attitude is everything in life.

Chuck Norris wears Brady Hoke pajamas.

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January 27th, 2013 at 10:55 AM | You fucking idiots.....   (Score:-1 Flamebait)
VelikovskysDog
Joined: 09/10/2009
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You fucking idiots.....   obviously you don't realize that 

1. love and hate are the same emotion.

and

2.  WHY  Dantonio behaves like this...

Dantonio was spurned by Michigan, after Tressel began to beat us on a regular basis.  Our history has been that we took a rib from OSU to beat OSU,  like taking Bo, to beat Woody.

Dantonio was at Cincinnati waiting for the call, but Bo and Lloyd thought Tressel was "a snake in the grass" and didn't want anything from that tree.  But the fact is that Dantonio couldve kept up/beat Tressel, as he was his DC and knew him well, just like Bo and Woody...  This IS why Dantonio is so bitter.  And part of me wishes he was hired, because I like the way his teams play, right or wrong, and we'd have avoided this entire meltdown this past 7 years.

This is not to say I don't like Hoke... I do... though I did prefer Harbaugh, and I would not have minded having Dantonio.

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January 27th, 2013 at 11:22 AM | Do you have any evidence or source for your assertion (Score:4 Normal)
Don
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that Dantonio wanted to coach at Michigan?


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January 27th, 2013 at 1:01 PM | Don, I do not have (Score:-1 Flamebait)
VelikovskysDog
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Don, I do not have evidence however one would think it is self-evident..... Who wouldn't want to coach the rivalry? Michigan is one of the great college jobs. He'd have jumped at the offer coming from Cinci, no question about it. The fact that he took a Big Ten coaching head job is enough evidence in of itself.... It is obvious that he's quite bitter about when he refers to Michigan.

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