ak47

December 4th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

What was unbalanced? We had common opponents of Maryland, Rutgers, MSU, Inidana, OSU, Iowa, Wisconsin this year.  There isn't a single big ten team we played they didn't and they won the division we were in.  Maybe its stupid a loss against Iowa coutns more than a loss against Pitt because of divisional affiliation but if that is the case there isn't a need for a conference championship and teams should just play whoever.  

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SpikeFan2016

December 4th, 2016 at 12:14 PM ^

The West actually had a winning 11-10 record against the East during the regular season, despite the fact that this year 2/3rds of the games were home games for the East and away games for the West.  

 

Now, the top of the East was definitely miles better, but the middle and bottom of the West are better than the East. 

 

Still think the East is best overall because of the Top 3, but the margin isn't as big as you'd think. We lost to Iowa, after all. 

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Michology 101

December 4th, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^

PSU didn't have to face WIS until the Big 10 Championship game. If they had faced off in the regular season, that most likely would've kept one of them from even making it to the Big 10 Championship game. There were four top teams in the Big 10 this season. They were OSU, Michigan, PSU and Wisconsin. Michigan and OSU both had to play the other three top teams during the regular season. PSU and WIS both benefited by not having to play one another during the regular season, which would've given one of them another loss. The unbalanced schedule.

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L'Carpetron Do…

December 4th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^

If Penn State somehow gets in over Michigan AND Washington - I may never watch another college football ever again.

It's very simple: Penn State faces a natural barrier behind M (not anymore in the polls I guess).  THey are B1G champs, true.  But, they lost to Pitt which is, you know, not a great loss. And Michigan ANNIHILATED Penn State. Michigan also has two losses to Iowa and an EXTREMELY controversial loss to #2 Ohio State.  Two losses each, one is head to head in a beatdown, that should be impossible to overcome.

Oh and they shouldn't jump a one-loss Washington..  I don't think Michigan should either.  But there is NO WAY IN HELL Penn State should get in, I don't care how much ESPN wants to play it up and push it for drama.

Herbstreit is talking about Penn State getting in right now and I want to punch him in his fucking face.

 

 

 

 

 

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Don

December 4th, 2016 at 11:39 AM ^

I don't know if so-called recency bias is applicable here, but it's a case of Michigan not playing while PSU nabs the conference crown.

Wisconsin had a 28-7 lead, but gacked it away.

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1VaBlue1

December 4th, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^

Why would you be surprised?  PSU won an exciting game last night, with the announcers singing praises all night.  Offensive flash beats defensive prowess on TV.  The 39 point win was almost two months ago, it's forgotten everywhere but here.  Besides, PSU was the walking wounded with 53 starters out against UM (/s).

I just don't get why anyone would be surprised at this...

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pinkfloyd2000

December 4th, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^

Not the right word. We're just reacting to how stupid it is.

The season is 12 (or 13) games. Not 1.

I've never understood why the "entire body of work" isn't taken into consideration more than it is. Remember that old phrase, from the BCS days? We're really not all that removed from the BCS, by the way -- this is just a "super BCS system."

Anyway...let PSU have their fun for now. 

 

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TrueBlue2003

December 4th, 2016 at 6:49 PM ^

no.  OSU was better than PSU on the day they lost.  The outgained them by 150 yards, dominated the whole game and lost on special teams flukes.  OSU had fewer losses.  OSU is higher in every unbiased ranking and metric.  PSU can say none of that compared to us.

The polls weight recent games higher than earlier games without considering opponent or location.  PSU finished with a relatively easy schedule compared to us. They did not play a road game against a team with a winning record after our game.  We had our two toughest road games in our last three games. Not apples to apples.

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Dubs

December 4th, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^

Again...the timing of a loss should not matter. Yet, it does so much. If OSU and Michigan opened the season playing one another, this would be a totally different conversation.

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ijohnb

December 4th, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^

is irrelevant to us now. Penn State sucks and we will kick their ass every year. We are not in the playoff, we don't need to discuss every trickle of evidence that confirms it. Beat FSU.

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