OT: Two students injured in shooting near MSU campus
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/01/justice/michigan-state-university-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Gunman appears to still be at large, but no fatalities have been reported; one student is in critical condition.
I hope the gunman is apprehended with no more injuries and that the student recovers promptly.
MOD EDIT - forgot to do this earlier. This happened in Cedar Village, so near campus but not on it. - LSA
February 1st, 2014 at 4:25 AM ^
Absolutely horrible. Thoughts go out to the victims, their families, and their MSU friends who are all affected by this.
EDIT: Any upvotes I give are for awareness and nothing else.
February 1st, 2014 at 4:38 AM ^
anything else and i would have made a one off reply questioning why Dantonio can't keep his school in line like we have been hearing all week from spartyville over keith "touch my" stones.
but school shootings suck, even at universities who have sports fan's that drive me batty.
February 1st, 2014 at 4:40 AM ^
Hopefully the victims recover fully and they catch the shooter.
February 1st, 2014 at 4:43 AM ^
WMU had a shooting last fall
February 1st, 2014 at 8:43 AM ^
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February 1st, 2014 at 5:02 AM ^
OP, not that it changes the severity of the event, however, the shooting took place OFF-CAMPUS not ON. It was in the (in)famous Cedar Village. Needless to say, it's basically as close to campus as you can get without being officially connected.
Thoughts/prayers to all those affected. Must have been a frightening text message to receive for the students and faculty.
February 1st, 2014 at 8:29 AM ^
Too close to campus for me. Ugh. Hope everyone recovers and they catch the shooter.
February 1st, 2014 at 11:58 AM ^
Essentially yes, I consider Cedar Village a part of campus. One of the large dorms is just south across the street. It would be like someone getting shot where Blimpy was. Still very close to dorms like West Quad and South Quad.
February 1st, 2014 at 6:02 AM ^
Very sad news indeed. Thoughts and good vibes to the families of the victims and the community at large. Hopefully, they find the person that did this - the local stories said that it looked like it was not random, per the ELPD.
As someone sort of mentioned, it seems like there has been a tragic spike in such incidents either on or near campuses around the nation lately, but then even one such incident is really one too many.
February 1st, 2014 at 6:51 AM ^
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February 1st, 2014 at 9:45 AM ^
One thing that I don't find helpful - and find really disgusting - is the way that every mass shooter seems to earn himself a week of national media profiles on what he cares about and how he got here. I think that does glamorize the endeavor in an awful way.
February 1st, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^
I've made a personal effort to not learn their names, ever since The Dark Knight Rises theater shooting. It has no effect on the big picture but helps me feel like I'm not giving these freaks what they want.
February 1st, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^
They do it because people want to hear about it, so they make money. Unfortunately, I think that also means that they don't have any incentive to take steps to prevent these incidents (e.g., by not covering the shooters so thoroughly), since these things make for big ratings.
And yes, I think that TV and radio types are self-interested enough to respond to those incentives.
February 1st, 2014 at 7:15 AM ^
that the victims are okay and that they get the jackass who did this. All rivalries aside, this sucks and I hope that everyone stays safe. My little sister is an MSU grad and I'd be beside myself if she was still a student right now.
February 1st, 2014 at 7:28 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 7:55 AM ^
There is nothing preventative law enforcement can do if someone is out to get someone with a gun ANYWHERE in the USA. College campuses are generally safer than cities but the same awful crimes that plague our cities can be found on every campus, UM included. Hope the MSU students make a full recovery and they prosecute the shooter.
February 1st, 2014 at 9:18 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^
Could just as well say knife, brick, potato salad... whatever.
February 1st, 2014 at 9:54 AM ^
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February 1st, 2014 at 10:27 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
So, I went over the statistics provided in the table to which you linked. Some interesting insights available for those who actually care to separate emotion and hyperbole from facts (which you seem to do).
- Firearms are, by far, the most often used means of committing a homicide ("murder" is the term used by the FBI in its statistics)
- Overall annual firearm homicides dramatically declined between 2007, the first year of data available in the table, to 2011 (10,129 to 8,583; or about 15%)
- The decline in the total annual homicides over that period (2,252) are substantially due to the decline in the use of firearms
- All other means of committing homicide also showed significant declines
From the FBI site, I also looked at gun-related homicide statistics by state to see if there was a correlation to population. Answer: there appears to be. Among the 10 most populous states, there are a few outliers (California somewhat higher, Michigan and Georgia somewhat lower) but overall, the number of homicides is very population-driven.
Anecdotally - and this surprised me greatly - I couldn't find much of a correlation to the strength of so-called "gun control" laws in those states. I could just as well have found equally compelling correlation to the mean average temperature/climate in those states as a predictor of gun-related homicides. Prior to looking at the data, I would have agreed with people who said states with concealed carry laws have lower gun-related homicide rates, but that assumption didn't match what I found. For that matter, the data also didn't support the reverse argument. In other words, it doesn't appear that you are more or less likely to be killed by someone with a gun in a state with strong gun control legislation than you are in a state without it.
February 1st, 2014 at 3:49 PM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 10:28 AM ^
So hard.
February 1st, 2014 at 10:22 AM ^
to commit 69% of murders in the US, murders only account for 1.2% of all violent crime in this Country. You are far more likely to assaulted/robbed/raped with hands/feet/clubs/bricks than a gun. We have a violence problem in this Country, plain and simple.
Either way, thoughts and prayers go out to the MSU community.
February 1st, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^
The world has a violence problem, plain and simple.
February 1st, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 10:55 AM ^
Not just the US, worldwide violent crime rates are among the lowest they've ever been
February 1st, 2014 at 8:24 AM ^
being Sparty posts. This type of thing seems to be happening everywhere these days. I hope the people hurt are okay, and the shooter is caught.
February 1st, 2014 at 8:32 AM ^
Last week both OK state and Purdue were posted. I think more to keep people informed. This was not posted in a spiteful way towards Michigan State.
February 1st, 2014 at 8:45 AM ^
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February 1st, 2014 at 10:32 AM ^
It's not that it's happening everywhere "these days", it's that we now have ubiquitous media that saturates everything around us. This is a recent developement. I don't understand why it is so hard for people to grasp that. This is not something that has become an issue recently, in fact, I would wager that humans in general have become overall less violent over the past several hundred years.
February 1st, 2014 at 11:15 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 8:47 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 8:49 AM ^
February 1st, 2014 at 8:55 AM ^
Violence on top of more violence is always a good idea.
Maybe we should just let the police officers do their job??
The key word in your post was SUSPECT
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February 1st, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^
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February 1st, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^
If you're caught in the act and are about to inflict more harm on others then it's okay.
February 1st, 2014 at 9:29 AM ^