OT- Game of Thrones S7 E7: The Dragon and the Wolf
August 27th, 2017 at 8:26 PM ^
I am excited as one can be... but this is a dangerous place to be before the show...
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August 27th, 2017 at 8:33 PM ^
The Hound is the best character you cunts.
August 28th, 2017 at 8:53 AM ^
Until the writers saw how much people liked his character, then they proceeded to completely jump the shark and ruin it. I've lost a lot of faith in the writers the past two and a half seasons. Stop trying to be so goddamn meta, and tell the story.
Fuck.
August 28th, 2017 at 10:13 AM ^
is a good observation. The amount of "callbacks" to previous seasons and that kind of thing has gone from a pleasant aside to really distracting. The show has gone from being really gritty and serious with flashes of clever humor to essentially a buddy comedy with dramatic undertones.
Daenerys flying into the meeting with Cersei on Drogon is another perfect example of the confusion the show is suffering through. The amount of times people can gasp in awe at Dragons reached its limit like three weeks ago. Now it has actually become kind of comical. I laughed in discomfort during that scene. Emilia Clarke kind of played the scene as comedic also almost out of an inability to play it any other way. It appeared as though they actually added a line for Cercei ("we have been waiting quite a while") to ackowledge the unintentionally funny outcome of the scene. Sitcom-ish at times.
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August 28th, 2017 at 1:13 AM ^
was a rushed, nonsensical way to give The Night King a dragon without really risking much and still moving forth with the plot. Was expecting much more out of the episode. I still enjoyed it a ton, but I'm a little bummed that none of the suicide squad died outside the priest, and the motivation behind it didn't make a ton of sense.
August 27th, 2017 at 8:55 PM ^
August 28th, 2017 at 2:27 AM ^
Spoiler if you haven't seen the current episode don't read....
Jamie is riding north to Winterfell and Bran knows Jamie pushed him off the tower. Considering what Littlefinger just got, Jamie should probably avoid Winterfell at all costs.
I highly doubt they would kill Jamie at this point but, they should atleast consider it.
August 28th, 2017 at 8:15 AM ^
They won't kill him - he's going north against Cersei's command to help in the fight against the dead army. He'll be fogiven his trespass...
August 27th, 2017 at 8:32 PM ^
The producers aleady said there is no Cleganebowl this season.
August 27th, 2017 at 8:34 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 8:33 PM ^
I was almost ready to give up on this show before this season. It just seemed too slow and plodding. This season had a much better balance, and was much more enjoyable to watch.
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August 28th, 2017 at 12:54 AM ^
and dues ex machinas galore, with invincible main characters, I have a lot of other recommendations for you.
This show was different before this season (before season six even), but has so far reverted to a typical big budget spectacle.
August 28th, 2017 at 8:12 AM ^
It went from being one of the most surprising, well written, and compelling shows in the history of television, to a PG-13 Michael Bay action flick. What happened to all the great dialog?
It's like they forgot what made the show great in the first place once they ran out of GRRM source material. Surprise me. Kill off a major character that appears to have plot armor.
Tonight's episode was good, but there was still a lot wrong with it. I don't buy Littlefinger begging like a little bitch. That whole sequence was ham-handed and could have been done better. Why not have Sansa seduce him and cut his throat?
We've waited how many seasons to see John and Dany fuck, and they devoted all of 45 seconds to it. He ate that girl's pussy in the cave for longer than that.
I'll keep watching to the end, but this season was meh.
Best part of the episode was Tyrion, Bronn, and Pod catching up.
August 28th, 2017 at 8:56 AM ^
Agreed almost completely, but I even thought the scene with Tyrion, Bronn, and Podric was trying to be way too cute. I did not care much for this season, though it was a spectacle, and still entertaining. It isn't supposed to be a comedy, so stop making it one, D&D.
August 28th, 2017 at 2:55 PM ^
D&D don't have the gift that GRRM has for writing dialog (not surprisingly), I do think they had a few good scenes of dialog this season.
I thought the Baelish talk to Sansa about fighting every battle in your mind was great.
"Everyone is your enemy, everyone is your friend. Every possible series of events is happening all at once. Live that way and nothing will surprise you. Everything that happens will be something that you've seen before."
That was classic Littlefinger, but then he doesn't even heed his own advice?! When Bran revealed himself as a seer and called out LF's "chaos is a ladder" thing, he had to know to gtfo there. That he stuck around to get played, AND was surprised about it, after that speech about how to never be surprised was terrible. Especially because LF had established himself as incredibly cunning. To go out like that was unsatisfying to say the least.
Anyway, I also liked the dialog between Cersei and Tyrion last night. Best scene of the episode and pretty vintage GoT.
The Lady Olenna scene was great too. This season had its moments.
August 27th, 2017 at 8:36 PM ^
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August 27th, 2017 at 8:47 PM ^
really hope you're right, but I think that was just them saying goodbye to Nymeria, they arent spending cgi money on wolves.
August 28th, 2017 at 1:25 AM ^
scenes of the raven flying and guys sitting on an island? The story wouldn't have benefitted at all by showing non-action scenes that are understood.
You're correct that scene served to establish that animals could be "wighted" and was at least entertaining. Showing the raven flying would have done nothing to advance the storyline and would have been pointless.
August 28th, 2017 at 8:19 AM ^
It would have conveyed a sense of time passing, and maybe stopped some of the bitching about teleports... Could have passed a couple of days on that rock, easily, with a few night/day shots from a raven.
August 28th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^
how they were purposely vague about the amount of time spent on the island so the audience could possibly assume it was a few days, instead of only one.
They could have in 10 seconds told the audience that multiple days had passed. Have them wake up and ask each other how long they've been there, "I don't know a few days" and then have Sandor start throwing rocks. No need to spend any more screen time than that showing the raven flying or a bunch of sunsets.
But if you definitely take that route, you open the sequence up to other problems like the fact that ice up there would freeze very quickly, so there's no reason for the wights to have allowed days to go by. People would have been equally angry if they were allowed to camp on that island for days while the wights just sat there including the Night King who it turned out had spears that he could throw at them!
They admittedly wrote an absurd sequence of events and hoped the audience wouldn't care. Being vague and letting us come up with the most plausible explanation was the right thing to do after they decided Gendry would run to the wall after being attacked by the dead, send a crow to Dragonstone and Dany would save them all.
August 27th, 2017 at 9:18 PM ^
Based on the HBO's story line but add a lot more detail story filler to get over 2,000 pages of small print.
August 27th, 2017 at 9:35 PM ^
Euron what a freaking pussy
August 27th, 2017 at 10:37 PM ^
August 27th, 2017 at 10:47 PM ^
Yes, right into the hands of the Night King.
But who cares? Her enemies will die first.
Of course, then they'll all come south to get her.
August 27th, 2017 at 11:05 PM ^
While he won't be the 3 eyed raven, Cersei's son may end up having three eyes, or better yet be a dwarf. Karma!
August 27th, 2017 at 11:16 PM ^
Maybe a three-eyed dwarf?
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August 28th, 2017 at 12:05 AM ^
and immediate changes of heart this season, I was very satisfied with the payoff of his storyline. When he walked off, I was like no f-ing way that lunatic gets spooked off by one little wight.
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August 27th, 2017 at 10:27 PM ^
Seems we ended in a place that sets up the final season really well.
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August 28th, 2017 at 1:32 AM ^
that they did a really good job of tying up some bad storylines at the end. And wow, incredible to see Jon and Dany finally get together, Baelish offed and the Stark sisters looking very formidable was (initially) very satisfying, and I was super happy that Cersei didn't just join forces that easily.
But then I started to get angry again about some of the storylines:
1) It was easily the most predictable thing for several episodes that Cersei wasn't going to enter a truce and that this whole plan wouldn't work. So I just can't believe that Tyrion would send the Mag 7 on a suicide trip up north that even if it succeeded in getting a wight, had zero chance of getting what he wanted from Cersei.
Tyrion literally did not make a smart decision this entire season, and I'm beginning to think he might still be operating on the Lannister side (or is the new Baelish) at this point. That seems crazy but it has to be either that or perhaps this was all supposed to bring Jon and Dany together? Put Jon in harm, make her save him, put them both in front of Cersei knowing Jon would swear his allegiance. Dunno. I'll be angry if Tyrion actually believes Cersei or isn't working with her/for himself.
Watch his face when he's looking at the room with Jon and Dany getting it on. He doesn't look very happy. It's possible his end game is a bit more ambitous than we think. Or that he is in love and wanted to get rid of Jon...there has to be a better explanation for his awful counsel other than suddenly the most cunning diplomatic character in the show aside from Cersei, can't get anything right.
2) I think everyone was angry at how easily it seemed that Arya and Sansa seemed to turn on each other, so spoilers aside it was pretty predictable that they were playing Baelish. While his death was satisfying, we wasted a huge amount of screen time on that whole storyline when it was unbelievable and could have been done four episodes ago. It was a very long setup for a scene that maybe surprised some viewers. And that's it. No purpose in the story. It's not like they tricked him into committing a crime that others witnessed. In the end, it was Bran's word about a bunch of things he did a long time ago. There was literally no purpose to the sisters game.
This is another reason there is no excuse for the sloppy plotlines when they spend so much time conjuring up tenuous conflict that wasn't believable only to resolve it in a way they could have without wasting so much time on it.
August 28th, 2017 at 1:33 AM ^
OMG don't get me started on the Stark sisters this season. The payoff was great, we kinda all knew that they were playing Littlefinger and Sansa never trusted him from day 1, so it was really annoying how the show placed so many unconvincing red herrings to artificially create tension. The only reason I thought that Arya might gank Sansa was that the writing had gotten dumb enough that I figured that doubling down on dumbness was in play. Again, the final scene was well-executed and satisfying, but it was also completely unearned by the season's writing.
August 28th, 2017 at 2:22 AM ^
obviously.
It's kind of ironic that the only way we could have bought what the writers were selling is if we had lost all confidence in the writers ability to write believable character behavior!
August 28th, 2017 at 6:21 AM ^
August 28th, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^
they tied up enough storyline and gave us enough great scenes (Bran witnessing the Lyanna and Rhaegar marriage) to have done a pretty good job overall last night.
Don't get me wrong, there's still a lot to love, but man, the showrunners are struggling with some of these storylines.