OT: First Ever Female Head Coach Of A Division 1 Men's Basketball Team?
According to the article, Becky Hammon is being considered for the job at Colorado State.
She is an assistant under Gregg Popovich with the Spurs.
She was a three time all-merican with the Colorado State women's team.
Would be a ground breaking hire to say the least.
Not sure if it'll happen in this case, but it will happen soon enough.
Yeah it's definitely a matter of when, not if.
If by 'PC police' you mean her decade-plus resume of playing and coaching basketball at multiple competitive levels, then sure.
plus Pops endorsement and pedigree.
You clearly get it. Stay classy!
But men can coach women's sports? And like she can't compete with the likes of a Stallings or a Groce.
At a camp I was working in her native South Dakota right after her first season with the Spurs. We briefly chatted about her experience and she had nothing but positive things to say about working in the Assocation, granted the Spurs culture may be one that didn't allow any nonsense due to her being a woman on the staff compared to other teams. She has an incredible basketball mind and I'm certain there is a timeline where Pop eventually wants her to take over for him with the Spurs, but a move to Colorado State would be a pioneering move for her and for women in basketball.
she was a coach with the Spurs until I read this article. She certainly sounds qualified for the position. I hope they are seriously consdering her and not just paying lip service.
She would certainly have a unique sales pitch to provide their Mothers.
Depends on whether or not she's got some awesome bewbz
User name checks out.
There's talent on that team. But they absolutely cratered this year - bad juju with Eustachy.
Am I a sexist if I don't think any female could recruit well for mens basketball? Honest question, I just dont think kids will choose to play for a female coach unless their other option is much much worse. I do think she would be a good coach, just not a recruiter.
It's clear that he thinks that she does.
it's obviously unclear that we wouldn't be idiots for not realizing that he didn't mean that.
You are going to make that pitch to a 16 or 17 year old kid? Have you met any 16 or 17 year old boys?
For the record, I've coached 16 to 17 year old kids. I'm pretty sure most of them would've grinned at something like that.
at how many 16 and 17 year olds will respect someone who can give them a full scholarship and coached with one of the best NBA coaches ever. There will be some people that don't vibe, but there will be plenty of players she can recruit. Not to mention, after a successful year or two, that's all going away.
...is a great recruiter and he's an invertabrate. I'm sure she'll do fine.
Then she has to prove it on the court just like the first NBA female ref, the first black QB, at al. Stereotypes take some time to die out but do. Coaches like Pat Summit and Hutch could successfully coach men or women - good is good.
How many college coaches were highly regarded NBA assistant coaches? I'm assuming most recruits have as their end goal an NBA career. She shouldn't have much difficulty recruiting good players.
step 1: Get head coaching job at CSU
step 2: Aggresively recruit LaMelo away from Lithuania
step 3: Piss all over LaVar's ideals
step 4: ???
step 5: profit
I couldn't give a shit less what the sex is of a coach.
Most reasonable person wouldn't, you are certainly not some unusual person because you don't care. The fact is, it hasn't happened and that is probably due in part because the system has prevented it. If she was hired, that would be a big deal and start to pave the way for the thing that you and I don't care about to actually be a reality, because right now, we may not care, but the system clearly does: 351 Division I coaches, 351 Male Division I Coaches.
She went to CSU so that should help with recruiting and alumni relations.
Do you miss having your mom as your coach?
/s
She doesn't have to get "most high school boys" to play for her. It's CSU, not Duke, they're not recruiting five stars, and the expectations aren't national championships every year. She needs to get 3 or 4 decent basketball players per year to play for her.
I think you're pretty badly overestimating how much high school boys are going to care about being coached by a woman. Chances are, they've had a couple of women coaches before this point in their careers, and didn't care. And again, you don't need 40 players a year, she needs 3 or 4. I think she'd be fine.
I had a similar thought while reading this piece. I tend to believe that most kids probably wouldn't care about gender, first and foremost. I can't imagine this being a major factor nowadays in whether or not a kid chooses one school over another. Further, it's her alma mater and that alone probably helps in not only selling the school effectively, but with whatever booster community they have. Also, as you mentioned, expectations here are not Duke-like, and rarely does CSU even sniff such a market if they ever have at all.
She just needs a few recruits who aren't sexist and/or want to get to the NBA (if you read her resume, she could prepare them better than many men's D1 coaches). Also assistant coaches do most the recruiting of high school basketball players. I'm sure she would not have an all female staff.
I would agree that it would be a monumnetal task in football where you need more stars to be successful ( and women currently don't play the sport at any serious level).
So much of this feels like the same arguments you used to hear surrounding non-white people in "traditional" roles such as coaches and specific positions (e.g. quarterback). Sure, some kids won't want to play for a woman. Kids will also not want to play for Jim Harbaugh because he seems weird, or Brian Kelly because he yells a lot, or Willie Taggert or David Shaw because they are black, or any other number of reasons.
Hell, Bill Polian recently said Lamar Jackson should consider going to WR, using so much coded and illogical language that it's hard to fathom. People are dumb and have their biases, but the good thing is that there are billions of people in this world and she only needs to get about 13 to want to play for her.
I'm sure there are high schoolers who don't want a female coach. There are equally likely athletes who wouldn't mind having a different voice, especially one with as much knowledge and success as Hammon has. I think people underestimate how open-minded younger people are, especially when gender roles come into play.
So yeah, there will be some blowback because our society loves to get illogically pissy and concern-trolling for no good reason. I seriously doubt that it will have a major impact on her ability to recruit and coach kids at CSU. What'll be WAY harder is the fact it's CSU and they have limitations recruiting more generally.