Urban Meyer dropped in on the Cass Tech boys and Malik McDowell today, but the biggest surprise was his visit to GR Chrisitan to see Drake Harris. Harris said he is very interested in Ohio and will be taking an unofficial there soon. This sounds like a decommitment could be coming, and that would be a crippling loss for Michigan State.
What about us?
And BTW-I
What were the restrictions?
I have herard about the Dunn restrictions, but dont know what they are. Can you shed some light?
Bri'Onte Dunn
It was a few weeks after Urban accepted the job. Meyer visited Dunn a couple days before he was scheduled to visit Michigan and basically told him that if Dunn took the visit, he would no longer hold his spot.
Happy that MSU has a sad, but
Happy that MSU has a sad, but sad that OSU has a happy. Head esplodes.
Enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Ugh.
Truth be told, I think i'd rather have a stud at msu than OSU if UM can't get him.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
While seeing MSU lose a top
While seeing MSU lose a top recruit would be great schadenfreude it's a bit alarming to see Urban come in and possibly take the top 2 recruits from the state.
Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.
Eh Drake Harris was ever that
Eh Drake Harris was ever that high on Michigan, it seemed to be all MSU, so thats just the luck of the draw I guess. He also wanted to play basketball so there's that. Webb is slightly alarming but not Drake. I won't strat getting worried unless they get McDowell.
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You mean the sentence
You mean the sentence fragments and typos? Oops sorry.
Great Points
Drake has never been that high on Michigan. Which is surprising for a few different reasons. 1. Our basketball program has clearly made huge improvements and 2. We are in need of a solid #1 WR for the years ahead. He would be able to come onto campus and have star potential and impact almost immediately. Webb is alarming for the fact that he goes to Cass. This is not the end of his recrutiment. It would not surprise me one bit if he is to decommit from O$U and commit to us or even an $EC school.
Why did you use a "$" instead
Why did you use a "$" instead of an "S?"
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
He shouldn't have used the
He shouldn't have used the dollar sign on this site. As for why he did, it's because a former Buckeye coach named Jim Tressell ran dirty programs at Youngstown State and OSU. He eventually got busted by the NCAA. Even more embarrassing is that many Buckeye fans still celebrate a dirty coach who was fired for cheating.
Could be worse
I mean, it's not like they're celebrating someone who attacked a reporter or an opposing player. Because that really would be incredibly embarrassing.
Kind of sanctimonious
So Moeller is worshipped like
So Moeller is worshipped like Tressell and Hayes? Nice try, troll.
I'd say the problem we face
I'd say the problem we face is Urban coming in with his bullshit sale pitch that UM only seeks BiG championships whereas Ohio seeks national championships. Sadly, this gets reinforced by knob snorkling idiots like Drew Sharp, and it is a giant pile of crap. Michigan has had a top 10 class the last two years, with assuredly more to come. That makes us a NATIONAL program Drew Sharp you imbecile. Just because we were down thanks to the RichRod saga, does not mean Michigan has lost its place in the football blueblood pantheon.
Thankfully, there are enough young men out there that don't buy the bullshit Meyer and Drew Sharp are peddling, and know Michigan is the real class of the Big Ten academically, ethically, and athletically.
Don't blame Drew for what comes out Hoke's mouth
Hoke has said repeatedly that the B1G championship is the goal. Nothing wrong with that. And Urban can bust out his national title rings and say that's what he's coaching for. Again, nothing wrong with that.
You can pile on Drew all you want, but his the point of his painful to read columns is that OSU is a win at all costs program, while we want to do things the ethical way.
Agree
Thats why I couldnt understand why people didnt think losing Webb was a big deal. McDowell, Webb, and Harris are easily top three instate with Doles and Marshall on the outside looking in. I believe I read somewhere that Urban would be seeing Marshall today, so he must be doing a tour de Michigan.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
We are going into Ohio and
We are going into Ohio and beating them for recruits as well. Things go both ways.
Except Ohio has more highly
Except Ohio has more highly regarded prospects than the state of Michigan. They lose a few not a big deal because there are so many. We lose a couple top recruits in our state huge deal and slim pickings the rest of the way.
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
Precisely Frito
After those instate prospects I mentioned above, its a drop off in talent. Ohio is top ten easy when it comes to which states produce the most high school football prospects every year. It is what it is and we have to protect our guys.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
Let's be honest it's McDowell
Let's be honest it's McDowell and then the rest for Michigan prospects this year.
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Honestly... You're likely
Honestly... You're likely wrong.
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
But if Urban grabs Michigan's
But if Urban grabs Michigan's top 3 or 4 recruits while we grabs Ohios top recruits 7-10, I don't think thats a fair trade. Dantonio needs to get out of the weeds and start recruiting early.
Michigan Football- What you gonna do when hokemania RUNS wild over you?
But if Urban grabs Michigan's
But if Urban grabs Michigan's top 3 or 4 recruits while we grabs Ohios top recruits 7-10, I don't think thats a fair trade. Dantonio needs to get out of the weeds and start recruiting early.
Michigan Football- What you gonna do when hokemania RUNS wild over you?
Ugh
Someone keep Meyer out of our State
Friends of mine here in Florida say the same thing...
...including two former Florida football stars from the 1980's who coach at local high schools I interact with weekly -- and not because he takes recruits or left his job under false pretenses. The two former Gators refused to support the program under Meyer even when they were winning championships due to his lack of character. They verified this story from the Sporting News in 2009:
"Left in the wake of Meyer’s resignation were problems that can destroy a coaching career: drug use among players, a philosophy of preferential treatment for certain players, a sense of entitlement among all players and roster management by scholarship manipulation.
The coach who holds himself above the seedy underbelly of the game, who as an ESPN television analyst in 2011 publicly berated the ills of college football, left a program mired in the very things he has criticized.
“The program,” former Florida safety Bryan Thomas said, “was out of control.”"
The environment he created at Florida was so bad, once he took the job at OSU he was telling recruits' parents not to send their kids to Florida because of the mess he created. Parents do your homework!
Both former Gators are highly supportive of Will Muschamp by the way and are once again encouraging their players to look at Florida. They are also developing good relationships with the Michigan coaches and have a ton of respect for the program.
Michigan is and will always be every BIG schools' measuring stick.
He actually said that? After
He actually said that? After he tweeted that Ohio offered, he immediately RT'd a bunch of Sparty fans about how great Izzo/Mork are. He could be on decommit watch but my gut is USC/ND could be bigger threats than Ohio.
Quote:
“They are one of the best football programs in the country,” Harris said. “You have arguably the best coach in the country. The campus is great, and the fan support is crazy and the tradition there is just tremendous.”
Am I the only one slightly irritated by use of the word "tremendous" by an MSU commit when talking about Ohio State?
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I have to wonder if he's been
I have to wonder if he's been on campus.
Precisely
I've been on Ohio's campus and while it is many things, "great" is not one of the adjectives I would use to describe it.
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"Fix the cigarette lighter."
Disagree
Athens is beautiful. Ever been there lately?
Vonn Bell and his brother
Vonn Bell and his brother disagree...
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Hmmmmmm...
At this point, Drake Harris is committed to Sparty and Tom Izzo. He will probably get a lot of attention over the coming months so I have preemptively written the Board topics for you.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
all those
incorrect OT's make my head explode.
halol looking back on this
halol looking back on this
If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant
So we need a go-to WR
and our BBall is #3 and he enjoyed camp in AA but now he's interested in OSU?
Urbie is breaking out his strongest selling material for the MI boys this week ...
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
Well sadly all he has to sell
Well sadly all he has to sell is 2 National Titles and an undefeated season at Ohio with recruits there weren't his and a win against the rival in year one.
In all reality that is all he needs to sell right now. Gotta beat him on the field, simple as that.
Wrong
We can sell cash and sleaze and lies and favoritism towards better players....just like at Florida.
BILG
Yeah but, who did Ohio beat
Yeah but, who did Ohio beat this year? How many of their wins came against teams that ended up in the top 20 in the final poll?
Yeah that's right, no one. Only reason Ohio went undefeated was Meyer's good fortune at by far the most creampuff schedule of any top 20 team this year.
Sadly, kids are drinking the kool aid.
Uh, they beat us though,
Uh, they beat us though, so....I'm not sure why you are trying to argue about their cupcake schedule. We had a chance to put a GIANT dent in their record and probably curb their recruiting. Instead, they have one of the best coaches in college football coming off an undefeated season. They have a lot of momentum, despite their cupcake schedule. You don't need a Michigan 2012 schedule to bring in talent. You need to win.
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Correct. A win this year
Correct. A win this year against OSU is of the utmost importance. A loss will give them momentum that will take a while to overcome. We have to deal them a blow so that Meyer can't run away with this conference. This year has alot riding on it.
"I have seen the top of the mountain. And it is good."
Winning is at the core of
Winning is at the core of building and sustaining recruiting momentum. All of the other factors are important, but winning is the foremost. We had a lot of chances to win some big games this year, but didn't. We were in the national spotlight in those games, but we disappointed. Now, I'm sure we'd say it's an opportunity to change those results from happening, but we're fans. Kids see that and there's sort of a loser stigma that comes about. You win, you change that.
Did we even have a most impressive win this year? That's a legitimate question. Michigan State? We didn't score a touchdown. Sell that to a WR or RB. Northwestern? We needed a hail mary type throw to make that happen. This season is huge. I think it's set up for a 10 win season easily, but we're going to have to win those big games. We're going to have to beat Notre Dame, Michigan State, and Nebraska. We're going to have to beat Ohio State in at least one of those games.
Hell, this would probably be hard to track, but I'd love to see how many kids camp at different schools. I would hypothesize that teams with winning teams will get a lot of guys. I feel like I hear every kid up in the North interested in camping at Alabama for instance. Winning can make these things a lot easier for us, guys and gals.
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So sick...
I am so sick of posts like BrownJuggernauts getting downvoted when they are true. We DO need to start beating OSU to consistantly beat them in recruiting and have bragging rights. once in the last 9 years isn't going to cut it I hate to say it.
We're not teaching them about sports, we're teaching them about life!
I wasn't aware that my post
I wasn't aware that my post was downvoted, but I appreciate the support.
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Man are some people dellusional
they went 12-0, we went 8-5. They have owned us for the entire millenium. Their head coach has 2 NC's to his credit and their program will do anything to win. People may not want to beleive that Ohio is a juggernaut, but they are and will continue to be until we do something about it.
Yep.
I blame neither Meyer for his sales pitch nor Harris for believing the sales pitch. 12-0 with 2 NCs and 2 top recruiting classes are facts.
It's up to our coaches and team to derail their momentum with a great 2013 season. The Game is huge this year.
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
Agree. The only thing that is
Agree. The only thing that is worse than losing to Ohio is having to listen to their vile fans spew garbage out of their mouths.
"I have seen the top of the mountain. And it is good."
Huh? They beat Michigan.
Huh? They beat Michigan. That's sort of important for recruits deciding between the two. Who did Michigan beat? Better yet, who beat Michigan? Five teams. Who beat Ohio State? Zero teams. What Kool-Aid?
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Buckeye I see, Ok I'll spell
Buckeye I see, Ok I'll spell it out a bit slower - The Meyer Kool Aid is that there is a vast disparity between the upcoming national trajectory of OSU and Michigan. This was true during the end of the Carr era, and the entirety of RichRod era and the echos thereafter, but not true at all with regards to recruits right now who are evaluating the next 4 or 5 years.
This is inaccurate given Michigan is back to also having consistently top 8 recruiting classes and will continue to do so.
This is inaccurate given the final echos of the RichRod debacle are almost entierly behind us. 3 OL recruits in 2 years and Hoke this year attempting to manage the worst offensive line Michigan has had in 50 years.
This is inaccurate because while Ohio was 12-0 and Michigan went 8-5, Ohio had a creampuff schedule, not playing a single team in the top 20, and had it's only two games against teams in the 21-25 rank at home. Michigan played 5 top 25 teams either on neutral or away. So yeah, don't mind if Michigan fans add a little asterisk to the power of Ohio's mighty drive toward creampuff perfection.
In sum, Ohio is a national program, but it is Kool Aid to imply Michigan will not also be, especially over the next 4 or 5 years.
What about us?
And BTW-I think if we come out strong and win some big games next year, he's gonna have a hard time saying no to a visit for the Ohio game next November...hopefully then he won't be committed to Urban, who will likely impose the same restrictions he did on Brionte Dunn