One of the most SEC things ever

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http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/mississippi-lawmaker…

Mods, feel free to delete if you feel this fits the "politics" topic. Mississippi is literally trying to legislate how long the NCAA has to complete an investigation.

“The measure would force the NCAA to deliver its official Notice of Allegations within six months of the day it sends a school a preliminary letter of inquiry. If the sports governing body does not hold a hearing and hand out punishments within one year, the state would fine the NCAA $10,000 a day until a final ruling is made.”

Naked Bootlegger

January 19th, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^

This one falls under the "there are a thousand more pressing societal needs to be addressed" type of legislative bill.    I hate the NCAA governing body.   I hate the Mississippi governing body even more.

M-GO-Beek

January 19th, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^

How can the state legislature have any jursidiction over the workings of the NCAA?  They would never be able to enforce this law.  Lastly, participation in the NCAA is strictly voluntary. It would suck not to play against other NCAA schools, but no one makes Ole Miss be part of the party.

LSAClassOf2000

January 19th, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^

It’s not uncommon for NCAA investigations to take multiple years before completion, but Ole Miss’ is now in its fourth, and it became much more crippling when former offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil admitted he received money from staff members last spring. It was then discovered that he is unlikely to be the only recipient.

I mean, it would be so much simpler for them to put a "Now __________ Days Investigation-Free" sign out front so people could just get a quick gauge on where the program stands with the NCAA, The problem, of course, is that it would be zero days for Ole Miss.....forever really. 

Everyone Murders

January 19th, 2017 at 11:41 AM ^

Based on the OP's title, I was certain this would be about incest.  Because that's the most SEC thing ever.

This, though, is pretty damn SEC.  What would be interesting is to analyze whether the state legislature could even enforce this (as M-Go-Beek notes above).  Furthermore, if I was the NCAA I'd say that any school that is a member must indemnify and hold the NCAA harmless from any state fines arising from investigations of their programs.  Judo the m-fers something serious.

MichiganMAN47

January 19th, 2017 at 11:09 PM ^

Agree. It's interesting to me in all these SEC threads how Southerners are insulted in such a vicious way. I've spent a significant amount of time in Southern states, and the people I experienced have been some of the most respectful and kind that I have ever met. Extremely well mannered. It also bothers me when Michigan fans talk about Southern racism when Ann Arbor is just 45 minutes away from maybe the most racially divided city in the country. Race relations in the South have improved a lot, I'm not sure that Detroit's race relations have.

Everyone Murders

January 20th, 2017 at 8:40 AM ^

I logged back in to acknowledge you raise a fair point.  And to plus one you.  I suppose, though, the really egregious thing is making light of incest.  It's a much more common and serious problem than people think. 

Now, because I can be a bit of an ass, I'd probably make the joke again.  (I can rationalize it by noting that I pointed to "SEC" rather than the South, which is, uhhhmmm ... a rationalization.)  But you made me think about it, so a tip of the hat to you, pastor!

MichiganMAN47 though - dude, do you race bait and concern troll often, or are you making a special case here?  Nice canned speech about North/South race relations, etc. - it's just inapposite and fatuous.

 

Alton

January 19th, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^

I don't know, but let's say they could enforce this.

The question is whether they really want to.  The NCAA could easily pass a bylaw stating that any fines assessed by a State government will come out of the NCAA's payouts to the schools in that particular State.  With a 100 percent "processing fee" added on.

And that the NCAA will no longer have any tournament games in that State.  And schools from that State are no longer eligible to be invited as an at large team to NCAA championships in any sport, nor are they eligible to be invited to NCAA-sanctioned football bowl games.

In other words, I don't think a single State would be advantaged in any way if they passed a bill like this.  The NCAA holds a lot of power here, and Mississippi holds pretty much none at all.

stephenrjking

January 19th, 2017 at 7:04 PM ^

Since the NCAA is voluntary and not bound by guarantees in the Bill of Rights, it seems to me that a logical option would be to simply declare the school responsible for all infractions after one year if they are unable to complete the investigation. And, if the school is unhappy, let them file an appeal in which they can bring forward the evidence the NCAA did not have time to evaluate.

I'm sure that would satisfy everybody, right?

MgoWood

January 19th, 2017 at 11:41 AM ^

It's kind of like having person to person meeting and sign some documents to then send to a judge to sign...because that's what is legal to some people. Where do they get their ideas? lol

hisurfernmi

January 19th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^

Couldn't the NCAA ban membership from states that hinder there ability to operate? The state here believes they have the power, but couldn't the NCAA just drop Ole Miss/Miss St., etc from participating in NCAA regulated events.

charblue.

January 19th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^

only empowered by what its membership agrees to give it authority to control and regulate. The members are in charge, not the organization. The organization works at the behest and authority of those who make the rules and recognize its authorization based on voluntary compliance.

If you want to excercise control over a volunteer organization, you simply drop out of the membership. Of course, one school has no power in making such a difference, and neither would several, it would take a movement that could lead a conference or more to make a serious difference.

I've never understood the thinking of those who believe an organization which has no subpeona power and cannot compel witness testimony or evidence has any serious legal control in any quasi investigative or punishment proceeding. The organization operates under the authority of voluntary compliance based on group need for oversight of issues that individidual schools cannot promise on any level to offer or deliver on their own.

A state seeking to challenge an organization's national bylaws or investigative powers and authority are actually challenging membership agreement to these voluntary principles. The NCAA reperesents the interests of its membership. It's only an adminstrative entity that works on behalf of its membership. If you want to change NCAA rules, start a campaign within the organization to alter them.

If Mississippi as a university through its legislature wants to challenge the NCAA's ability to oversee its sports administration and recruiting, then the challenge goes way beyond checking the organization which adminsters their rules. They are challenging the same authority that governs the very schools they compete with in the Southeastern Conference as well as those in the Big Ten and the PAC 12.