OC: better to be upstairs or on the sideline?

Submitted by JDeanAuthor on September 13th, 2021 at 5:27 PM

Forget for a moment who the OC actually is: Gattis or otherwise. Is it better for the team as a whole for the OC to be upstairs?

bamf_16

September 13th, 2021 at 6:21 PM ^

Depends is actually the perfect answer.

 

I always preferred the booth when calling plays.

 

If you’re doing a lot of individual coaching (especially as a position coach at the college level) better to be on the sidelines.

Hab

September 13th, 2021 at 5:31 PM ^

This is a great question.  You should ask Gattis.  Or another OC, whoever that might actually be. 

I take it back.  This is not a great question.  In fact, it's a terrible question.  

I take it back.  This is not a terrible question.  It's a half-asset shot at the OC, who is, in fact, Gattis.  Take your trolling elsewhere.

Mpfnfu Ford

September 13th, 2021 at 5:31 PM ^

I think it depends on what side of the ball the head coach comes from. If the head coach is an offensive guy, the OC needs to be up in the booth to give him a different perspective. If the head coach and coordinator are from different backgrounds, do whatever the coordinator feels more comfortable with. 

UMfan21

September 13th, 2021 at 5:47 PM ^

Probably this in most cases.  Moorehead was on the sidelines for Oregon.

I remember one of our OCs (I thought it was pre-Gattis, but its all a blur) liked to be on the field to connect with guys and pump them up.  But we have such a youthful staff now I think Moore or other assistants can fill that role 

1VaBlue1

September 13th, 2021 at 5:38 PM ^

A well disguised troll of Gattis.

Personally, I don't care who the OC is, or where he sits during a game.  As long as Michigan continues to play like they did Saturday evening, I'm good with it.

JDeanAuthor

September 13th, 2021 at 5:41 PM ^

Truthfully, this is not a trolling question. I am serious, because it seems to me that the idea of offense of coordinators sitting in the box seems to be fairly recent. I don’t remember seeing all the offense of coordinators going up to the box that long ago, I remember them being on the sidelines.

Perkis-Size Me

September 13th, 2021 at 5:46 PM ^

There isn't one answer. Its what works best for that OC and how he communicates with his players. Some need to be on the sidelines to talk with their guys and fire them up. Some need to be in the press box so they can better survey the field and have a place to communicate clearly to their QB. Especially if its a big road game in a deafening environment where you need to be able to hear yourself talk. 

Billy Ray Valentine

September 13th, 2021 at 6:05 PM ^

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Forget for a moment that it's the internet, and any moran can pretend to be knowledgeable, why do I crave strangers' opinions ... Am I actually just a poorly disguised troll, or, do I need a hug realz bad? 

 

 

AZBlue

September 13th, 2021 at 6:20 PM ^

In the booth getting the live “all 22” view is probably best in the majority of cases.

Before some of the staff changes I think Gattis needed to be down on the field to be the leader/energy guy on the sidelines.  Mike Hart fills that role nicely now and JG can stay upstairs.

TeslaRedVictorBlue

September 13th, 2021 at 6:40 PM ^

Dunno, but there was a moment that the QB checked to the sideline and they panned to Gattis in the box. Wasn't talking, gesturing, just watching.

I know it means nothing, but the optics of it were. Let's call a run play. Check to the sideline. Ok run the other run play. OR just see what Harbs wants.

Meh

1WhoStayed

September 13th, 2021 at 7:27 PM ^

 

Dunno, but there was a moment that the QB checked to the sideline and they panned to Gattis in the box. Wasn't talking, gesturing, just watching.
 

Notice that as well. I assume Gattis had already said his piece and it was being relayed. There isn’t time for him to relay a “check down”. That option should have come with the original communication.

LB

September 13th, 2021 at 6:52 PM ^

Such a simple problem.

1 - think about where you are posting.

2 - if he's upstairs he needs to be downstairs. If he's downstairs he should be upstairs.

skatin@the_palace

September 13th, 2021 at 7:04 PM ^

This is really dependent on the staff and roles within the staff. I’ve been apart of organizations where the OC was on the sideline and the QB coach was in the booth and the inverse. 
 

I’ve been a high school DC and spent a season in the booth. As a LB position coach and DC I found it better to be on the sideline because it’s easier to draw up what we’re seeing with a whiteboard than have someone else communicate it. 
 

If I was an OC especially and did not have a background on the OL I’d love it. All 22 while you have a trusted OL and running backs coach down there would be great to me. But it’s all about preference. With the amount of analysts, GAs, and assistants on a staff you shouldn’t be too worried about where they’re at on game day. We’ve all seen it’s much more important during the week if position groups have coaches who are present and accounted for. 

waittilnextyear

September 13th, 2021 at 7:50 PM ^

Gattis mentioned in an interview that he really likes being up there. I think it could be helpful seeing the all-22 view of the game on every play for strategic purposes. You might sacrifice a bit of the connection with the individual players during the game, so you have to trust the position coaches/GA's to fill in there. It's important for the OC to feel comfortable, so for that reason I like Gattis being in the booth during games.

Jordan2323

September 13th, 2021 at 8:01 PM ^

At least upstairs Gattis can put his hand on his head and look frustrated as hell without being noticed too much…except when the cameras catch him doing it twice in one game.