MSU now 5th in the Amway
national poll.
I have watch MSU twice and I can say that they are overrated and don't deserve to be in the top ten. MIchigan has a chance to beat them and would be a good bet if Vegas gives them them the anticipated 14 points.
Of course if DG doesn't play then they stand no chance.
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October 19th, 2014 at 3:13 PM ^
questionable for the game?
October 19th, 2014 at 3:20 PM ^
Hoke said that he expects Gardner to be their QB against MSU.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:30 PM ^
expects Gardner to be the QB
FTFY
October 19th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
I'd give the points and take State
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October 19th, 2014 at 3:23 PM ^
Well, MSU is averaging 47 points/game (#3) and giving up 21.6 points/game (#35). Overrated or not, they're winning by almost 4 touchdowns a game.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:29 PM ^
Blind hate is a funny thing.
October 19th, 2014 at 6:19 PM ^
Averaging Under 30 against teams that have any kind of a pulse is more like it.. Their 47 pts a game average is badly skewed by the 70+ they put up against a dogshit non conference team.
Scoring fewer than 30 against Nebraska and Oregon isn't going to impress the voters at the end of the year at all
October 20th, 2014 at 2:49 PM ^
Wait a minute...do you mean that teams average fewer points against good teams, and more points against bad teams?!?!?!?!
Mind. Blown.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:25 PM ^
Hold up, the national poll is sponsored by Amway? How appropriate. Also, I've been living under a rock since this is the first I've heard of it.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:29 PM ^
is you get a team under you. The more teams that work for you the higher up in the polls you go. and it's not a scam I'm super serious.
October 19th, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^
My new favorite post of all time!
October 20th, 2014 at 1:22 PM ^
is when, right as you're about to crack the top 10, they change the rules and you need more teams underneath you to move up.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
So State loses to the #2 team by 19 on the road, ND loses to a better and still-undefeated #2 team by 4 on the road, and State's better? Not to mention they're still ranked ahead of the team who beat them, at least in this joke of a poll. What marquee wins do they have? Surviving after almost blowing it against Nebraska? Yes, they're the best team in the B1G, but is that really saying anything? I just do not understand the love.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:40 PM ^
Stuff that happens later in the season counts for more. Thats just the way it is.
October 19th, 2014 at 5:23 PM ^
Na, it's just completely reactionary to each week. You can't explain rankings "logic."
October 19th, 2014 at 6:02 PM ^
Is say Ohio looks like the best team in the big10 right now.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:33 PM ^
I was quite impressed the way Sparty responded when IU made it close in 2nd quarter. Instead of panicking like Michigan would have, they went out and kicked their ass the rest of the game
October 19th, 2014 at 3:36 PM ^
A simple rule for ranking college football teams: You earn no style points when playing a 3rd string QB.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:39 PM ^
They didnt put up 52 points on the 3rd string QB
October 19th, 2014 at 3:41 PM ^
MSU's offense is on fire; their defense is still good, but nowhere near last year.
October 19th, 2014 at 4:36 PM ^
First having playing against a 3rd string QB helps your offense field position wise. There is no arguing that. 2nd Iowa just put up 45 on Indiana. Indiana's D is awful. Putting up points on them doesn't make your offense great. North Texas is awful and they put up 24 on Indiana.
October 19th, 2014 at 4:46 PM ^
Take away Indiana. They're still averaging 45.5 points/game.
October 19th, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^
take away the 70+ they scored on Eastern and what are they averaging?
Under 30 against 2 pretty average defenses isn't inspiring..
October 19th, 2014 at 6:50 PM ^
Doesn't change facts that they are much better than UM. We're averaging 43 points against those titans of CFB Appy St and Miami (NTM). I'd be thrilled to see UM scoring an average of over 30 points against average defenses. Against the power 5 teams they've played this year UM has scored a pedestrian 68 total points for an average of 13.6 pts, they're 108th in scoring!
If MSU only scores their average of 30 points against average defenses as you say, and we only score our average of 14 rounded up then we are still short 16 and state covers the spread.
How anyone can be arguing that this team can suddenly turn it on after the tire fire we've seen this season is beyond me. After 7 years of tire fires I'm at the point of I'll believe it when I start seeing it. The only team UM has played even close to what MSU is capable of is ND and they destroyed us 31-0. MSU hates us, I expect it to be higher if the results are similar.
October 19th, 2014 at 11:36 PM ^
Holy shit strawman, by arguing that msu is overrated nobody is saying that michigan is actually good or going to beat them. Saying I think msu is probably like the 20th best team in the country still makes them way better than michigan and also overrated, both can be true at the same time.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:36 PM ^
The game against MSU is going to be ugly - I would be happy if we were within two scores.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:54 PM ^
It's intresting to me that we've scored fewer and fewer points against them each year for the past decade.
It's going to irritate the hell out of me when we don't even sniff the red zone against them yet IU was able to put up 17 points.
October 19th, 2014 at 3:56 PM ^
I don't expect that we will be, but even if we were I still wouldn't be happy if that's all we have to cheer about. There are no moral victories.
October 19th, 2014 at 4:01 PM ^
MSU may be overrated, and their defense isn't what it was last year, but we've seen NOTHING out of Michigan to suggest that we have any chance of beating them on Saturday. The offense is still a mess, and the defense has zero playmakers. Dantonio will refuse to allow his team to sleepwalk through this game.
Besides, you know how MSU plays when we step on the field with them. They could be ranked #1, we could be 0-6, and they'd still play with a huge chip on their shoulder. They won't just want to beat us. They'll want to humiliate us in every way possible.
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October 19th, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^
It's gunna be more than 14 pts from Vegas...
October 19th, 2014 at 4:17 PM ^
none of the current top 10 are world beaters. Which is fine. There doesn't exist a compltely perfect football team, nor is there a clearly dominant team this year. For me, that just makes it all more exciting.
October 19th, 2014 at 4:22 PM ^
And? ....
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October 19th, 2014 at 4:37 PM ^
Coaches poll doesn't matter anyways. Indiana's defense sucks and now their offense does too. If MSU was in the SEC or Pac 12 they'd have three losses by now. It sucks that we can't take advantage of this crappy big ten.
October 19th, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^
Who cares just show up and win..if msu has a "chip" on their shoulder, then ours needs to be a lot bigger since we going in as an underdog..but our coach doesnt know what a chip is so it doesnt matter will go in EL and just go in a fetal position like we have been lately..
I remember when msu was just a door stop..shaking my head
October 19th, 2014 at 4:58 PM ^
That's a damn lie.
October 19th, 2014 at 5:12 PM ^
Haha thats a good one
October 19th, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^
Line opened at 15.5. I expect it to go up before game time.
October 19th, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^
The MSU team this year reminds me a lot of a Lloyd Carr Michigan team.
Above average QB, solid big RB, one tall WR that is exceptionally skilled. Decent defense, but is not going to take the game over. Manages to come close to losing 2-3 games per year against clearly inferior talent. Probably will drop a soft one before the season ends.
October 19th, 2014 at 6:45 PM ^
Yeah, that's not a good thing for Michigan.
October 19th, 2014 at 5:17 PM ^
We'll win the practice week leading up to Saturday.
October 19th, 2014 at 5:40 PM ^
Michigan has a good chance of beating them? I mean I'm a huge michigan fan but even I can't say that with a straight face. A victory for us would be to have it within a td entering the 4th. Gardner has proven time and time again he cannot make plays against pressure, that's not gonna all of a sudden change Saturday.
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October 19th, 2014 at 9:15 PM ^
That would entail having a qb on roster who is mentally tough.
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October 19th, 2014 at 5:50 PM ^
Damn, thought for sure there would be a pyramid scheme joke
October 19th, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^
post #9
October 19th, 2014 at 8:28 PM ^
I'm going to be washing my Prozac down with heaping glasses of strychnine and vodka.
October 20th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^
Drew sharp will drop both teams in the polls regardless of who wins
October 20th, 2014 at 12:03 AM ^
What if MIchigan wins? Then we wouldn't have to worry about Sparty making any playoff. It would suck if they did because of the recruiting ramifications. This is shaping up to be a bad enough recruiting year already without Sparty being able to once again build a great team on players who should have gone to Ann Arbor.
October 20th, 2014 at 12:03 AM ^
What if MIchigan wins? Then we wouldn't have to worry about Sparty making any playoff. It would suck if they did because of the recruiting ramifications. This is shaping up to be a bad enough recruiting year already without Sparty being able to once again build a great team on players who should have gone to Ann Arbor.
October 20th, 2014 at 8:01 AM ^
Yeah, if someone from the B1G has to make the Playoff, I'd rather it be OSU, for the sole reason that they're going to out-recruit Michigan most years regardless. At the same time, though, until this program has competent coaching again, I really don't feel recruiting matters anymore.