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Motion to ban Bruce Pearl from commentating games

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:38 PM
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Motion to ban Bruce Pearl from commentating games
Did anyone else get sick of hearing Bruce Pearl argue for almost every call to be against Michigan down the stretch in the second half? Not sure if he thought he was providing insight or he still automatically argues with the refs, but he was consistently arguing against most of the calls that went Michigan's way. I didn't notice him doing it the other night during a game. Maybe that 30 point stomping in the tourney a few years back still stings.
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December 1st, 2012 at 8:40 PM
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You work on the legal

You work on the legal briefs...and we will support you

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:43 PM
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I'm pretty sure most people

I'm pretty sure most people on the board were fawning over Bruce Pearl at the start of the year so good luck with this...

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December 1st, 2012 at 11:05 PM
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Why?

Would anyone fawn over Bruce Pearl.  He is Satan

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December 1st, 2012 at 11:05 PM
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Why?

Would anyone fawn over Bruce Pearl.  He is Satan

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:03 AM
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Well

I agree with the OP, though I probably would have stated it with less melodrama.  It did seem like every time Michigan made a good play, Pearl called it a "foul," while every time Bradley got called for a foul, Pearl said it was a "bad call."

There really isn't any reason for him to cheer for either team, and he is usually a good analyst, so I was somewhat perplexed and mildly irritated.  Maybe Pearl is trying to develop a conscience, has overcompensated, and now roots for the underdog.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 AM
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I just find it funny that he

I just find it funny that he is still suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress) from all of the back door cuts Michigan torched Tennessee with in his last game as a head coach.  He kept bringing it up over and over, "look for Michigan to run some back door cuts right here..."

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December 2nd, 2012 at 2:46 AM
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I think he was just pulling

I think he was just pulling for the underdog - a natural inclination for any analyst hoping to maintain interest in the game they are calling.  I take it as one more sign we have arrived as a consistent favorite.

Didn't bother me.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:44 PM
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He's just mad his last game

He's just mad his last game he coached was a 30 point ass whipping issued to him by Michigan in the NCAA tournament.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:45 PM
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Motion to ban people from

Motion to ban people from starting topics to whine about announcers.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:49 PM
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Seconded

Every announcer has something people can point out they don't like.  Just part of the game (in a way).

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:56 PM
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Thirded

He's better than Dick Vitale!

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:29 PM
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Dick Vitale

He could be announcing a game between a B1G team and an SEC team, and the only thing he'll talk about is the ACC

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December 1st, 2012 at 10:57 PM
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not bad

In the universe of college basketball commentators,  he is not bad.  I here lots of positive comments and i find him relatively palatable. 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:45 PM
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Why was he hired?

I never understood hiring former players/coaches to jobs they are not really qualified for simply because they are connected to the sport. Sportsman=/=Commentator

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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Because 9 times out of 10 a

Because 9 times out of 10 a former coach or player knows more about the sport, which is why he is a color commentator to bring insight into the game that people who never played the game can't do. He is a little "young" when it comes to announcing games but when he gets more practice at it he will get better like with anything people do.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:32 PM
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This is especially true for

This is especially true for ex-coaches.  (Ex-players can be more hit-or-miss.)  Most do a very good job breaking down the game and making observations the average fan wouldn't have noticed.  My favorite is Bob Knight - he's not my favorite person, but he has great insight to offer.  

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:50 PM
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heh

In the span of about 3 minutes in the game time he complained about the following calls:

- Charge taken by Hardaway should have been a block.
- Flying manbeast foul on Burke mid-jumpshot should have not been called, "let em play".
- Egregiously early spin move on a free throw was a "ticky-tack" lane violation against BU.
- Fast break de-pantsing move on Hardaway on his way to a slam was a "play for the ball".

I get it, it's an underdog, and it's fun for a neutral observer to have a close game, and you could maybe complain about one of these things on its own, but he sounded like I would expect a Bradley alum to sound calling the game.

(edit: to be fair that Bradley guy with the 20 second freethrow release, I'm surprised the BU players aren't _constantly_ getting lane violations)

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December 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 AM
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I think people are just being homers

People are just being homers. I hadn't seen the game before this thread so I watched it with some of this in mind, and there really weren't that many things he seemed to be biased about. First, I don't think that should have been a charge. The second call I agree but the guy did block the shot also and even the announcers made it sound like it was a harder collision than it really was, hardly a "manbeast" foul. Also, he said something like maybe it shouldn't have been a foul; he wasn't very decisive about it. Third, I agree with you, but he didn't call it ticky-tack; the other guy asked him if it was and all he said was "I don't know, it's an eh? call", which is actually a worse explanation lol. Fourth, that guy just made a totally routine end-of-game desperation foul, and I agree completely with Pearl there. Plus, he was just saying it shouldn't have been called as an intentional. So, that's just 4 calls you think he was being biased about, 2 of which I don't agree with.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:49 PM
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Lets start a petition and send it to Obama

That's the rational thing to do here

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:00 PM
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Dakich'd

Looking forward to hearing Dakich's story about Spike's father, yet again.

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:31 PM
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You mean the Biddy-Ball

You mean the Biddy-Ball legend?

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:09 PM
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Never Content?

I'm just happy that I am able to watch over 20-25 games here in Colorado! It's awesome that I can now watch more games than I could when I actually lived in Michigan.

 

I'm not mad at commentary, but mad that we played like dog shitte. That THJR slept walk through the game. That Morgan had the quietest double-double ever. That Burke can't pass with under 7 second on the shot clock.

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:23 PM
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+1

For Better Off Dead reference.

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:15 PM
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Goal?

What is a goal is basketball. I am the only one that noticed him keep saying "the goal" as in "hoop", "rim", "boards".

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:46 PM
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That term isn't completely

That term isn't completely unheard of.  After all, that's where "goaltending" came from.

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December 1st, 2012 at 10:26 PM
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and there's also the term

and there's also the term field goal in basketball as well. Come to think of it, "goal" may in fact be the official name of the basket....

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December 1st, 2012 at 11:25 PM
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You guys got me

I'm going to harlm to shoot some hoops, shirts and skins. I'll make sure to ask what goal we are going towards.

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:21 PM
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Motion

Denied

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:26 PM
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Bruce Pearl is also the one

Bruce Pearl is also the one who wrote an article on ESPN about why he thought we would become a basketball dynasty again.

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:29 PM
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This thread has me wondering...

This could be turned into a positive.

Who is the worst announcer of all time?

I will go with Chris Spielman.

Followed by Pam Ward at a close second.

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December 1st, 2012 at 10:17 PM
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It has to be

Vital.
Better get a timeout, Baby!

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:30 PM
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After the first game Pearl

After the first game Pearl did this year everyone kept saying how awesome he was and now everyone hates the guy?

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:56 AM
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He was good the first time he

He was good the first time he broadcast earlier this season but ya he was a little off today. Also motion to have Gus Johnson broadcast every game in ever sport from here on out.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 9:47 AM
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Gus Johnson !!!!

I second that motion

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:45 PM
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Burke gets smashed on a shot:

Burke gets smashed on a shot: "I'd like to see them let that go"

We cleanly knock the ball out of their hands for a steal: "a lot of contact on that one"

 

 

Yea, my head was spinning a bit on the way he observed that sequence of plays. lol

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:50 PM
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What

ever

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:52 PM
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December 1st, 2012 at 10:09 PM
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I like Bruce Pearl.

I like Bruce Pearl.

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December 1st, 2012 at 10:26 PM
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i lol'ed when he started

i lol'ed when he started discussing what should and shouldn't be improper benefits from people outside of the program lol

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December 1st, 2012 at 10:32 PM
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But he's uniquely qualified

But he's uniquely qualified for this sort of stuff.  

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December 1st, 2012 at 10:34 PM
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TC doesn't know about

TC doesn't know about Commentating 101:

Always pump up and over-sell the underdog to keep the casual fans with minimal rooting interest paying attention.

Bradley was a huge underdog so of course they'd argue things their way. Now if a game isn't so lop-sided on paper then commentators can balance who to praise.

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December 1st, 2012 at 10:52 PM
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That's how I saw it--he's been slobbering over Michigan

for three games in a row. Has to say some generous stuff about Bradley. And heck--they played us tought. Respect to them. Pearl's way better than a lot of people. 

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December 1st, 2012 at 11:03 PM
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If there was a way to cross post this to an Illinois board...

or blog, you would be a hero.  Which is why I upvoted your post.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:05 AM
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Meh

I've heard worse

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 AM
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Did he play in Peoria?

His Brave bias was hard to listen to, but early on he DID make a funny & insightful comment:

 

"last year, Michigan's backup point guard was a time-out."

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December 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 AM
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agreed that was a good

agreed that was a good one...give credit where due...overall he's a pretty good analyst

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:34 AM
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I am glad I wasnt imagining

I am glad I wasnt imagining it. He sounded like a damn fool- No commentator should comment on the officiating as much as he did; especially when it is so clearly one sided.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 10:47 AM
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Down With...

Down with ALL complaining about announcers threads PLEASE. 9 times out of 10 people have no idea what they are talking about and don't know the sport and can't take off their maize and blue glasses.

STOP WHINING.

Pearl's wanna-be Billy Packer impression all game was why he should be banned from TV...not because he was arguing for/against calls late in the game. Most of them were legit, Michigan played soft all game while Beilein tried to keep it close and get certain players a bunch of PT. It was an ugly/odd game and let's be glad we won and move on.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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Mr. Yost
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And stop with the BIAS crap...

Pearl actually loves us, he's done other games this year and both he and Dakich (who seems to get all of the other games) BOTH love Michigan.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 11:26 AM
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Dustinlo
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Bruce Pearl did write an

Bruce Pearl did write an article on ESPN praising our team a few weeks ago. Settle down.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 11:28 AM
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Dustinlo
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Sorry, saw this point was

Sorry, saw this point was raised below.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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Willy Wonka
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No Problem Here

He actually does a pretty good job IMO. He's just a little raw in terms of his delivery. His insight is very keen when he does things for the studio show on ESPNU. His play by play partner wasn't very bright though.

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