He's the number 1 Dual Threat QB according to 247 and he spoke with Chris Singletary about visiting. He expects a Michigan offer soon. Ohio is the presumed favorite.
Michigan speaks to QB recruit Torrance Gibson
Interesting that he mentions Desmond but not Woodson. I guess it is an example of Desmond's visibility in the media.
I like that we are going after Urban's plan A and plan B. They both sound great.
Pick him uppp!
be mentioned soon.
he would be difficult to pull from the south, but no harm in giving it a shot.
I love the aggressive approach Nuss is taking in recruiting.
It shouldn't be too hard if Ohio is his presumed favorite.
I like that we are going dual threat and/or as written in today's recruiting piece "big armed dudes who are mobile".
Because it seems like there is a clear place for Devin Gardner if we're not scrapping this type of QB and going for the drafted in the mid-late round "game manager" types.
I'm excited to see what Devin does this year because it seems like the coaches are open to the Duel Threat and the Spread.
Duel Threat. Imagining DG slicing through the line with flashing swords.
If it wasn't intentional that's an awesome typo.
As you know, teams do not need to be tiny to run the spread. This is one of the great misnomers about the spread mentality. The spread itself just spreads the field. It also generally means that you look to run the ball by spreading receivers as wide as possible forcing defenders to vacate the box.
Now if you want to run the spread option or other spread concepts that utilize the QB as a constant threat to run then sure, maybe you want to consider a faster/more durable QB along with a generally more mobile offensive line.
Ryan Mallett would have made a hell of a spread QB.
Sounds like the arguments you are having are with complete dummies. I get in these arguments all the time and it is always frustrating to debate with people who A. Do not understand the objectives that the spread looks to accomplish, or B. Do not really know what the spread is or how to identify it from other schemes.
Anyways, fight the good fight and educate the masses. I'm headed back to bed since work is cancelled today.
I'm not sure I agree with that statement, and neither does Ryan himself apparently...hence his immediate transfer to Arkansas when Michigan hired RR.
I think the general consensus regarding the Mallet transfer, was that he was leaving no matter who was coaching here.
For my own personal satisifaction, I would like to know when every message board poster will understand that "spread" is not an offensive system and there are multiple ways to run spread offenses. Can someone tell me when that time will come because this is getting ridiuclous.
So yes, Mallet was a pretty good spread QB, just a completely different spread than what RR ran.
That's why I hate the much too broad split in offenses as "spread" and "prostyle", because it really tells you very little and often leads to misunderstanding and confusion.
We saw a lot of Mallett in Lloyd's last year, and I don't recall much running ability AT ALL. That said, yes I do get that a spread offense doesn't always feature a QB who runs a lot, but the more effective (memorable?) ones seem to.
Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I thought Mallett had a rushing TD against Penn State in '07.
You are remembering correctly, he ran a few times during that game including a 3rd and 9 late in the game to keep the clock moving.
Yes, and he kind of hot dogged it a little resulting in a rebuke from Jake Long.
My point with the Mallett comment was that he could have thrived in a spread system. Big arm kid who can zing the ball out on everything from a screen to a deep post.
Once again the 'spread' concept does not insinuate that the QB needs to be mobile. There have been teams that have run the spread with slower and far worse QBs then the example I listed and had far greater statistical success (as well as success with the eye test)
The 'spread' concept only insinuates that you are looking to do just that... Spread the ball around the field. A spread with a non-mobile QB will utilize a ton of screens (mostly to receivers, but occasionally to a RB or TE). It will also attack teams vertically when given the opportunity. These 'shot plays' as I like to call them will be fairly limited and are obviously meant to keep the secondary honest and out of the box. You would have the same run plays as almost all spread teams minus the zone read (inside/outside) plays as well as any midline or veer concepts because you don't want your 5.1 40 PP QB getting lit.
The spread is just the concept and as a coach you can mold it and shape it as you please. Would Mallett had succeeded in RR's spread as we saw it? Very doubtful. But had he stayed and played in the spread system I can guarantee that with his intangibles, had he been whiling and he and his family understood what his role would have been (or limited to here) Mallett would have had a ton of success here. Dare I even say more then he had at Arkansas. He is just not a spread option or zone read QB.
According to ohio fans and bloggers, they're the favorite for every prospect they offer and even some they don't. Gotta take it with a whole bunch of grains of salt
We don't do the same? Get out of your fantasy world my friend. This blog is notorious for hearing that a kid is a Michigan fan, assuming we are #1 on his list, and melting down when he commits elsewhere.
I don't think we are that flighty, and he did have a point. It seems as if we hear (such as with Wimbush yesterday) that basically anybody with an Ohio offer is a presumed Ohio lean. I hardly think that we are so presumptuous (at least most of us here, and not the M posters on MLive for instance) as to automatically assume that a Michigan offer makes somebody an instant Michigan lean (assuming they have other decent offers). However, that type of thinking seems to be par for the course for OSU fans.
DAMMIT! Every time I write up a scouting report, new quarterbacks pop up on the radar!
Back to work.
Is the favorite for a lot of top dual threat QBs. Not good...
You have to assume that they will be getting a good QB for sure. There will be plenty to choose from and Nuss will get his QB as well. We have to trust the coaches to evaluate the talent and pick the best fit for Michigan, not neccessarily the one with the most stars. Plus I think you can count on Michigan's defense to be better than the putrid outfits that Urbz has been fielding thusfar.
My buddy is a well connected Ohio insider and told me awhile ago that Meyer is hard after Gibson, and that supposedly is better and faster than Miller.
Well, I've never known a cooler pooper to exaggerate the prowess of their potential recruits.
I knew it! There IS a buckeye version of Fred Jackson.
What does a Bobcat insider have to do with this?
athletes across the board, love the direction. most college teams severely limit their offensive efficiency and explosion if they dont recruit QBs who threaten D with their legs or at least just occasioinally make Ds pay several times per game with athleticism. almost a must these days, great to see coaches showing love to athletic QBs (obviously as long as they also demonstrate some arm and mental promise)
with Borges, everyone thought Shane Morris was in a position to push Devin for starting time, simply because he was deemed a better fit for Al's intended scheme, but it seems apparent that Nuss will sing back toward a dual threat QB, so that sort of puts pressure on Morris before he ever even starts, right? After Devin leaves, won't a high-level, dual threat incoming freshman already be a potentially better fit for Nuss' scheme?
[FIRST IN FOR QB CONTROVERSY 2016]
While I think your post has at least hints of sarcasm, I'd just like to make it clear that Morris fits just fine in Nuss's offense
should be [FIRST IN FOR FAUX QB CONTROVERSY 2016]
Who is this "everyone" of which you speak?
Gardner is a true dual threat, and Morris may be pro style, but dude has wheels.
Shane is surprisingly fast. Although I hope we never see the lefty run a speed option to the right, he will definitely be mobile enough to move around in the pocket / pick up a first down.
if you look at the combine numbers (NFL) and Shane's camp numbers, he basically as fast as Jordan Lynch from NIU. he's plenty fast enough to be considered a dual threat
Being fast doesn't mean you're suited to run the football on a regular basis. That said, Nuss is smart enough to make his scheme fit his talent and the offense will accomadate whoever is playing.
Yeah he had our longest run of the season last year.
/watches basketball highlights to feel better