your logic is not welcome here.
i like 'em both
your logic is not welcome here.
It's tough to comeback from a 21 point deficit. You get in a 21 point deficit by making stupid decisions with the ball and shooting like shit. Pretty simple. Hopefully learn from it and bounce back.
Meh. We're better than them, we'll win in Crisler. Stauskas won't have that awful a game and if we get two obvious calls (Burke and 1, THJr gets clotheslined) they have to make a shot to win at the end which they wouldn't.
Team was overamped to start and made mental errors. Once they settled down we kicked their ass. I am unconcerned on the macro level after the last 30 minutes.
On the micro level, I think we lose Thursday, before getting everything under control until we go to Bloomington.
The Burke and 1 you're right, but we hit a three on the possession where THJ got fouled, so it's hard to say that call would have changed the outcome. We actually benefitted from the no call as we would have been shooting free throws otherwise.
Just could make shots. That's all there is to it. Make a couple of those threes in the first half, and it's a completely different ballgame.
Losing by 3 after being down 21 in the first half on the road in the Big Ten tells me that this team will be just fine.
Oops double post.
That was probably the most selfish game I've ever seen. We didn't play like a team one bit. Trey Burke gets all "I need to beat OSU by myself". It would be nice to see Michigan step it up in a big game and knock a team out like OSU with this much talent. But like the first post said , JB was outcoached...
How was he out coached? Explain, rather than just spewing nonsense.
Ohio was better prepared...played like a team...that's a coach preparing his team. Michigan never could settle down...they kept taking horrible shots....a coach needs to make the right moves to prevent that from happening.
See: Spike Albrecht getting some early PT to turn things around. JB did his job, the players didn't execute. Simple as that
I'll apolgize...I will not have any reason in my comments today. I hate losing to Ohio State in anything...and a game like that...with a team like ours is just disheartening. I will now go buy beer and calm myself down before the Patriots smoke the Texans out of the playoffs.
Well your comment wasn't that unreasonable. Michigan did come out mentally unprepared, and it's at least fair to question what the coaches did or didn't do to cause them to come out so flat. Still, it's not like coaches can completely prevent players from making bad decisions.
Disagree with this comment re: mental preparation.
The coaching staff gets too much credit and too much blame in these instances.
We're a young team. Playing our first big road game of the year. I don't care what a coach says or does, there's only so much you can do to prepare someone for a game like this.
The players have to execute...and, in the first 15 minutes, they didn't. Even the normally sure-handed Burke was bobbling and mishandling the ball quite a bit. They were nervous and, as a result, they made mistakes. It happens.
Doesn't negate the fact that we clearly proved that we are a top team...one that will contend for the Big Ten title and be a factor in mid-March and beyond.
On a that note. Spike looked really solid given the situation.
...watching different games.
UM was obviously tight coming out. Jitters led to poor decision making, turnovers, ill-advised shots, etc. Understandable with a young team that has yet to face a real road test.
It's a credit to the coaching staff and the poise of the team that we came back from a 20-point deficit and made a game of it. Yes, we lost. But, we did "step it up in a big game."
On a side-note, did anyone catch Clark Kellogg's comment to Matta about how much he sweats during games? Funny stuff...
I hate this part of being a sports fan. Although it sucks, this isn't the end and our team will learn from this. The season will go on.
Looked like the ghost of Stu Douglass posessed half of our offense that game.
Man, Trey Burke's 3 was the most devastating shot since DMo's back rim and out vs Duke in the tourney.
Um, pretty much everybody's owned us the last decade.
Escaping with a 3-point win at home hardly constitutes "ownage." They were lucky as hell to survive today.
You can't play like garbage for any amount of time on the road against a solid team and expect to win. Playing uphill the whole game is taxing. Hopefully, this will give our younger guys some needed experience for the b10 season so that the game slows down on the road a bit.
We weren't going to win every game this year, and this was one of the harder on the schedule along with @IU, @MSU and @Minny. This doesn't kill us in the b10 race, but we need to win some of these tough road games.
Its nice to see some rational thoughts!!
This was basically a carbon copy of the Arkansas game last year. Another horrific start and 20-point deficit and then missed 3 by Burke in the final minute that would have won it.
Shot the ball terribly the last two games. We still beat a bad Nebraska team by 15, and lost narrowly on the road to #15 (and our rival). We'll get it together. Learn from it, get better and move on.
Forced too many threes towards the end of the game
The guys were too amped up at the start of the game which is a result of youth. What did you guys expect? Even the Fab 5 didn't win every game. I do like the facebook comments from MSU and Ohio fans pretending to be Michigan fans saying that we'll lose every game now and won't make the sweet sixteen.
I'll probably get downvoted for this but I feel okay about Thursday. We've had Minnesota's number at The Barn.
2009 - LLP with the clutch 3 to boost our tourney hopes
2010 - another W
2011 - another W
2012 - DNP
This is a way better Gopher team than those teams. They basically played the same game we did today yesterday, but @Indiana, who is much, much better than Ohio.
True, but this is also a better Michigan team than the ones that won at Minnesota those years, too.
It can be done. Sparty very nearly won there a week ago.
Albrecht played some meaningful minutes, as a freshman, in a tough Big Ten road game. He's already exceeded my expectations.
I really like when he is on the court with Burke at the same time. I actually would like to see Spike eat into Nik's minutes a bit. He doesn't have the 3 point shot, but he takes care of the ball a lot better.
Albrecht's actually not a bad 3-point shooter. He was 5-14 on the year entering today and I think he went 1-2 in this game.
outplayed Stauskus....by alot...He turned it around by attacking the defense in the middle of the first half....great confidence building game by Spike
The big ten refs allow these clutch and grab games with very low scoring. In the NCAA tournament the refs do not allow this. Therefore the big has not won a title in over ten years. Ohio elected to employ this strategy and it worked.
Some people seem to need a filter on their thoughts. Hey guess what we lost to a top 15 team on the road, I guarantee we'll lose 3-4 more of these type of games because no road game in this conference is going to be easy, and it's certainly going to be another challenge on Thursday might in the barn. That's just the way this conference is this year, deal with it.
I am as mad that they lost to Ohio as anyone. It sucks. Please quit finger pointing with the coaches did this the players did that. They lost. On the road in the big ten. To a quality team. It will happen again this season so be prepared. Life goes on and Michigan will have at least one more chance to play them. Grow the F up and be rational.
You're in a snowflake thread, what did you expect to see here?
This would really suck if it were 1 of 8 B1G games and the only game against Ohio. But it's not.
guess what...this is a fan message board...if people want to second guess and finger point after a loss, they should...now is the time. Other times, I would support your statement. This very same process will go on in team meetings this week
What is a word worse than pathetic? That was our performance.
Yet we only lost by three on the road to the #15 team in the country. Oh yeah, and fought back from a 21 point deficit. Even playing the worst game all year, they definitely could have still pulled it off with a little better shot selection, better luck, and not getting jobbed by the refs on every close call
Your username explains your outlook very well.
Putting yourself in a 21 point hole is always a bad idea.
Hardaway played poorly all game.
Burke made poor choice in the last few possessions.
And Stauskas scoring 0 points is never going to help.
FUCK MOTHER FUCKING SHIT
I don't think Stauskas even took many shots...if he moves around more he'll get more looks against a defense like that...
I would like to see us run nik off double screens. He stands in the corner becaue that is his role in the offense. We need to get him easy shots.
but i would like to see more motion period. we often looked like we were playing a zone offense a la tommy amaker, waiting for burke to do something.
i would like to see GRIII criss cross the baseline more with stauskus to help create more backdoor baskets, cut back 3s, or even alley oops.
but hey, it ain't easy working in 4 freshmen and i'm sure the main focus has been on the defensive side from beilein.
Experience is why we lost. We have far more talent than them, but took way too many dumb shots late in the game, and all game long really. This will get better throughout the year though.
Still extremely optimistic about this team. Lets be real, if we can go on the road against a high quality opponent and play that poorly and STILL almost win... that's something to be excited about.