J.

November 8th, 2015 at 1:52 AM ^

I immediately thought the same thing when I heard them say that on the OSU broadcast.  Typical "anything before 2000 doesn't count" thinking.

Stu Daco

November 8th, 2015 at 2:03 AM ^

There's no inherent meaning to winning a certain number of your first 50 games.  Why not measure it by the first 60 games, or 75?  Maybe 100?  It's just an arbitrary stat created for a talking point, and as you point out, it isn't even correct.

Sione's Flow

November 8th, 2015 at 2:08 AM ^

Right now, Meyer can do no wrong at OSU. But he started out great at Florida too, but he made poor staff choices after the departures of Dan Mullen and Charlie Strong. He's a good coach, but there are chinks in the armor.

alum96

November 8th, 2015 at 7:45 AM ^

With all due respect doing it in the modern era is a different animal.  By modern I mean post war. 

The 1901 UM team didnt give up a point!  The 1902 team gave up pts in 2 games (12 total).   The 1903 team gave up pts in 1 game (6 total) and  had 2 whole road games.  The 1904 team beat a team 130-0, etc  Apples and oranges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1901_Michigan_Wolverines_football_team

The 1901 season was the first in which the Michigan football team won a national championship. The team finished the season undefeated, untied, and unscored upon, having prevailed in all eleven of their games by a combined score of 550 to 0.

LSAClassOf2000

November 8th, 2015 at 8:35 AM ^

Those were some interesting schedules back in the day too - what we wouldn't give to have another shot at Oberlin or The College Of Physicians And Surgeons just to see if we could obliterate them again, eh? Maybe Chicago could get a team together so we can avenge that bitter loss in 1905 too. 

MonkeyMan

November 8th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^

I agree with Alum96- the modern era is a completely different challenge. 

Honestly, I do not get all the Meyer hate and envy. I can see excellence for what it is even if it by a rival.

Last year Meyer somehow got through 2 QB injuries to win the first true championship game in CFB. I really don't think that feat will be equalled ever again- it may be the greatest act of coaching we will ever see.

Do I want to beat him? Yes. Do I want to dominate him? Yes. 

Do I want to disrespect his coaching? Man, thats low- can't go there.

Finance-PhD

November 8th, 2015 at 8:33 AM ^

As I recall there was an infographic during a Saban Urban game where they showed how many games it took to win 50 (or maybe it was how many of 50?) and Urban was on the top because he had the record for the SEC.



Full cabinets seem to help.

UM Fan from Sydney

November 8th, 2015 at 8:53 AM ^

Must be really fucking nice. I wonder what it is like to win 22 in a row. OSU fans are so spoiled.

Brewers Yost

November 8th, 2015 at 9:05 AM ^

Urban is a great coach and we just have to accept that. However, that historical fact (OP) is somewhat misleading. Remember, OSU was on probation his first year so OSU didn't play in the B10 championship game or a bowl game; two quality opponents. However, even 45 out of 50 is amazing; everyone here would take that. Regardless, Our team has 3 weeks to improve and slay the monster. Go Blue!

MAZandBLUE

November 8th, 2015 at 9:42 AM ^

Silly eJACKulator. Don't you know that, when talking about rival's success, you're supposed to just pick specific timeframes that fit the point trying to be made?

kehnonymous

November 8th, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^

Urban Meyer is a great coach, as well as a sociopathic phony who may have banged co-eds at UFla - the two things are not mutually exclusive.  The uncomfortable reality is that if he'd been our coach we'd probably learn to love his on-field results and hand-wave away his personal flaws as quickly as, well.... OSU fans did.  Also - as with Harbaugh, - he's never stayed longer than 5 years at any one place - witness Bowling Green, Utah and Florida.  (It's fair to ask how come people only point this out regarding our coach, but whatevs)  

I have no problem admitting what a great job Meyer did at OSU - the results speak for themselves, but it's still worth noting that he went undefeated in 2012 with essentially the leftovers from Tressels recruits who went 11-1 in 2010 and had been the class of the conference for years.  The 2011 OSU team that wen 6-7 was more talented than its record and only went 6-7 because a half dozen starters were suspended for cheatpants shenanigans and the rest of the team was being coached by an Adam Sandler stunt double.

Harbaugh is 7-2 and counting with the remnants from Brady Hoke's team that went 20-18 over the last three years.  It's fine to exalt what Meyer did with what he inherited, but before you make disingenous 11W-esque comparisions between him and Harbaugh's first year, let's consider that Tressel just may have been slightly better at developing and recruiting talent than Hoke was.

cigol

November 8th, 2015 at 1:07 PM ^

I'm sorry guys, but I don't blame the media for counting Meyer's first 50 games and not Yost's. Maybe they should have qualified it by saying "Since 1940" or something, but when a massive chunk of your "games," such as Yost's are literally you getting together and teaching other schools the game of football, I'm going to find that far less impressive and am not going to get my panties in a bunch when a writer discusses something amazing that Urbz has done.

Yost undoubtedly had a far far bigger impact on the game of football than Urbz since he was one of the original pioneers, but for purposes of "Wins and Losses," what Urban has done since his arrival is pretty special.