McDowell sent LOI to MSU last night

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Per his Twitter (@D1_LEEK)... finally its officially over. Good luck to him.

rob f

April 2nd, 2014 at 8:13 AM ^

instead send them an "LOL" a long time ago.  But seriously, glad the saga is over, and I wish him personal success, just not team success.

TheDirtyD

April 2nd, 2014 at 8:26 AM ^

Finally insane that he wasn't allowed to. While we give State crap it still is a very good school. It sucks that such a good player is shunning Michigan for State but the fact his parents were denying him a full scholarship to one of America's top schools is just weird.

dahblue

April 2nd, 2014 at 8:58 AM ^

It's swell to be gracious and whatnot but "one of America's top schools"? Do you work for MSU admissions? I'm not saying it's a community college but it's most certainly not a top school and is a lesser school than many other options the kid had. As for personal fit, that's up to him and that's why he's going there. It isn't to play school.

GoWings2008

April 2nd, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^

who didn't go to Michigan, let me say this...arguing over academics across the board for B1G schools is somewhat pointless.  Its easy for UM students/grads to sit atop the heap (NW set aside) and judge.  No, MSU isn't as good as Michigan, but its still a good school, as are much of the other schools in the conference. 

I'm amazed sometimes at the ego that goes with a Michigan degree, most of it deserved (and I mean that in a good way), but sometimes realizing that other schools have much to offer to folks, especially when it comes to a quality education, is a true test of wisdom...not necessarily knowledge.  Yes. 

Edit:  And I realize that you were bringing up UNC as a comparison, but again...very good school, yes better than MSU.  But just commenting on the whole line of conversation here.

WolvinLA2

April 2nd, 2014 at 10:32 AM ^

Look - I'm not saying MSU is a bad school. It's a fine school. It is not an "elite" or "top" university, however. Employers across the country don't get psyched when they see MSU on top of a resume. Kids don't aspire to get accepted there. Sure, the students who go there and work hard will get a good education and will do well. It should not be put in the same sentence as Michigan from an academic standpoint.

GoWings2008

April 2nd, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^

But I suppose some of it is semantics.  I would say its a "top" university, but I'd agree that it isn't elite.  There are very few elite, which is why they're elite.  Some kids DO aspire to go there, even if the admissions standards aren't quite what UMs are and for the same reasons that SOME employers do get excited for an MSU grad....for certain career fields.  There are a few courses of study that msu does, reputation wise, do better than UM.  Teachers is one example.  And I know this, at least in the State of Michigan, because several friends and family members of mine have gone to UM, State, Central, EMU and a number of other schools and I have looked into this.  Just one example though. 

The fact that some folks need to verbalize the "It should not be put in the same sentence as Michigan from an academic standpoint" is the reason why UM grads get shit from other school's grads and/or students.  This fact although true, should remain unsaid.  IMO.

Edit:  All that said, I completely understand where you're coming from.  My dad and one of my older brothers went to Michigan and I'm aware of what their experiences were.  I wish I were a faster swimmer in high school that I could have gone and competed there. 

goblue20111

April 2nd, 2014 at 11:16 AM ^

I know quite a few people who aspired to go there.  The community aspect of Briggs and James Madison are quite appealing.  A lot of my friends who went to Broad are doing quite well. 

My GF's dad and uncle are both doctors: internist and anesthesologist.  Smarter than I'll ever be and both went to State.

These arguments are full of insecurities.  I'm proud of my Michigan degree and I don't need to put down others to prop myself up.  

GoBlogSparty

April 2nd, 2014 at 10:54 AM ^

Did you want to see more lists? http://www.msu.edu/about/rankings-and-recognitions/

 

No, I don't think MSU is as good as UNC, Harvard, or Stanford in all programs (some programs though actually come out better), but to act like MSU is some bottom feeding school for the sisters of the poor is a bit of a stretch. And to answer your question below, yes, my previous employer and current employer were both thrilled to see 2 degrees from MSU on my resume since my major comes in as ranking 13th in the nation. 

Giordano Bruno

April 2nd, 2014 at 10:42 AM ^

I guess it is one of America's top schools....top 100.  Pretty nasty place all told.  From the high-rise projects feel of Hubbard hall to the 1970s Soviet architecture elsewhere, it has this cold industrialized vibe. They have a number of buildings in the center of their campus which literally appear to be falling apart.  Their clock/bell tower or whatever it is they call it belongs on the campus of a community college. The only really nice looking facilities are the ones lining Grand River Avenue.  The city of East Lansing is also unappealing.  Basically one main avenue with a few sidestreets jutting off of it thronged by an immense student ghetto.  Shitty restaurants are all that is to be found.  The Red Cedar River reeks of sewage.  Their stadium is a joke, much like the guy in the trailer park who has a 65 inch plasma screen on his wall.  It is essentially a deteriorating concrete mess with Kowalski sausage signs plastered everywhere and a giant Toro lawnmower sign featured prominently. People are constantly getting killed by the train that runs to the south of campus.I guess Breslin is nice though.

Bluemandew

April 2nd, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^

 I can't stand msu but I was born and raised withing minutes of East Lansing and live along the Red Cedar. It does not reek of sewage and I can not ever remember someone being killed by the train running near campus. I will admit that the new art muesuem is hideous and an eyesore. If you don't like the campus fine but no need to make things up. The facilities can't be to run down because my borther in law a proffesor there just lured one of U of M's faculty members to state to work with him running a program working with people who have  downs or asd. I doubt they would have left Michigan to work at State if they felt the facilities were sub par. Is Michigan the better university yes do they have a better campus yes! But East Lansing is not this horrible prison camp that only the dredges of society end up. That is Columbus.

Everyone Murders

April 2nd, 2014 at 8:33 AM ^

If I recall correctly, either of his parents could sign after March 31 (before then it was just his custodial parent - i.e., his mom).  Best guess would be dad signed, which would make breakfast at mom's house ... interesting this morning.

In any event, as someone above noted best of luck to him on a personal level - on a team level, not so much.  I hope his mother's concerns were baseless and he has a great academic and athletic career.

Jimmyisgod

April 2nd, 2014 at 8:45 AM ^

Good Luck to the young man.  He showed some character in holding strong to what he wanted.  Honestly, if it would have been the other way around and this kid stayed strong to Michigan when his mother was dead set on him attendiing Ohio and was so vocal against us he would be immediately a cult hero in Ann Arbor.

Normally I would be upset to lose a 5 star recruit that we were the huge favorite for going back a couple years.  And to lose him to MSU would be doubly hard, but this was a done deal back in December so I wasn't counting on him.  Good to see he and his mother came to some agreement and he's getting to pursue his dreams at the school of his choice.  Wish him the best in life, hope he is a total bust on the football field.

Damn, he would have looked so good in Maize and Blue, the exact type of huge athlete Hoke has been trying to build both lines around.

BlueCube

April 2nd, 2014 at 9:42 AM ^

have done in a situation like this where the athlete wanted to come but the parents didn't want him to come to Michigan to this extent.

My guess is that Hoke would walk away from them in the best interest of the family. I guess that's part of the difference in the two coaches. I don't see Brady Hoke allowing this circus to happen.

 

Tagg

April 2nd, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^

Just curious as to how you think Mark Dantonio allowed this circus to happen? The way I see it Dantonio made the kid an offer and the kid accepted it even against the wishes of his parents. After the young man made his choice dad supported it, mom didn't and he ended up where he wanted to be. This was a family issue that ended up being aired by local sports media and mom, not MSU/Dantonio and the family. I don't think Hoke and staff would have done much different had Michigan been in MSU's position to be honest.

denardogasm

April 2nd, 2014 at 10:45 AM ^

Doesnt mean you need to anonymously wish him success at a school other than the one this site is dedicated to. Not wishing him luck is not the same as bad mouthing him. Personally, every time a kid goes somewhere else i think, "Hopefully he gets a solid job outside of football someday, but i hope he regrets this decision everyday." I don't feel the need to post it every time though. Out of sight, out of mind.

LB

April 2nd, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^

come from bad-mouthing him, but don't try to convince me that the family "ended up" in that position. They put themselves there, period. In fact, even the tweet served no useful purpose. I suspect that both the MSU staff and his mother knew he had signed the LOI. The rest was a continuation of the game they began - letting the story play out in front of the world.