well that's just, like, your opinion, man
McDowell sent LOI to MSU last night
Thank God that's over.
Does his mom have any eligibility left?
Malik McDowell : Recruiting :: Here Comes Honey Boo Boo : Television
instead send them an "LOL" a long time ago. But seriously, glad the saga is over, and I wish him personal success, just not team success.
good luck. now we can move on to kids that love Michigan.
Hopefully the family reached some type of agreement that was satisfactory to all of them.
Good for him, and good luck to him.
Does this mean the board's McDowell updates will only come monthly now?
Finally insane that he wasn't allowed to. While we give State crap it still is a very good school. It sucks that such a good player is shunning Michigan for State but the fact his parents were denying him a full scholarship to one of America's top schools is just weird.
Not that good of a school if you don't go to class.
Is this an assumption, or do you have personal experience?
His mother is on record saying her hangup was she overheard a player tell Malik that they don't have to go to class. Malik himself has hinted that the party atmosphere there was what drew him in. It surely doesn't sound like he's goin to play skool.
track record, he won't last long ... or achieve his potential.
Not a top school? MSU is top-70 in the WORLD for reputation. This isn't a community college.
Well since that one list said so, it must be true.
You don't really think MSU is as good as UNC, do you?
who didn't go to Michigan, let me say this...arguing over academics across the board for B1G schools is somewhat pointless. Its easy for UM students/grads to sit atop the heap (NW set aside) and judge. No, MSU isn't as good as Michigan, but its still a good school, as are much of the other schools in the conference.
I'm amazed sometimes at the ego that goes with a Michigan degree, most of it deserved (and I mean that in a good way), but sometimes realizing that other schools have much to offer to folks, especially when it comes to a quality education, is a true test of wisdom...not necessarily knowledge. Yes.
Edit: And I realize that you were bringing up UNC as a comparison, but again...very good school, yes better than MSU. But just commenting on the whole line of conversation here.
Look - I'm not saying MSU is a bad school. It's a fine school. It is not an "elite" or "top" university, however. Employers across the country don't get psyched when they see MSU on top of a resume. Kids don't aspire to get accepted there. Sure, the students who go there and work hard will get a good education and will do well. It should not be put in the same sentence as Michigan from an academic standpoint.
But I suppose some of it is semantics. I would say its a "top" university, but I'd agree that it isn't elite. There are very few elite, which is why they're elite. Some kids DO aspire to go there, even if the admissions standards aren't quite what UMs are and for the same reasons that SOME employers do get excited for an MSU grad....for certain career fields. There are a few courses of study that msu does, reputation wise, do better than UM. Teachers is one example. And I know this, at least in the State of Michigan, because several friends and family members of mine have gone to UM, State, Central, EMU and a number of other schools and I have looked into this. Just one example though.
The fact that some folks need to verbalize the "It should not be put in the same sentence as Michigan from an academic standpoint" is the reason why UM grads get shit from other school's grads and/or students. This fact although true, should remain unsaid. IMO.
Edit: All that said, I completely understand where you're coming from. My dad and one of my older brothers went to Michigan and I'm aware of what their experiences were. I wish I were a faster swimmer in high school that I could have gone and competed there.
compete with MSU grads in the field of Animal Husbandry.
I know quite a few people who aspired to go there. The community aspect of Briggs and James Madison are quite appealing. A lot of my friends who went to Broad are doing quite well.
My GF's dad and uncle are both doctors: internist and anesthesologist. Smarter than I'll ever be and both went to State.
These arguments are full of insecurities. I'm proud of my Michigan degree and I don't need to put down others to prop myself up.
Did you want to see more lists? http://www.msu.edu/about/rankings-and-recognitions/
No, I don't think MSU is as good as UNC, Harvard, or Stanford in all programs (some programs though actually come out better), but to act like MSU is some bottom feeding school for the sisters of the poor is a bit of a stretch. And to answer your question below, yes, my previous employer and current employer were both thrilled to see 2 degrees from MSU on my resume since my major comes in as ranking 13th in the nation.
but to act like MSU is some bottom feeding school for the sisters of the poor is a bit of a stretch.
Except no one said anything like this. That's the butthurt talking.
Me think you not know what "top" means.
Michigan (football) was a top team in the B1G legends division last year. Top 5 in fact!
I guess it is one of America's top schools....top 100. Pretty nasty place all told. From the high-rise projects feel of Hubbard hall to the 1970s Soviet architecture elsewhere, it has this cold industrialized vibe. They have a number of buildings in the center of their campus which literally appear to be falling apart. Their clock/bell tower or whatever it is they call it belongs on the campus of a community college. The only really nice looking facilities are the ones lining Grand River Avenue. The city of East Lansing is also unappealing. Basically one main avenue with a few sidestreets jutting off of it thronged by an immense student ghetto. Shitty restaurants are all that is to be found. The Red Cedar River reeks of sewage. Their stadium is a joke, much like the guy in the trailer park who has a 65 inch plasma screen on his wall. It is essentially a deteriorating concrete mess with Kowalski sausage signs plastered everywhere and a giant Toro lawnmower sign featured prominently. People are constantly getting killed by the train that runs to the south of campus.I guess Breslin is nice though.
I can't stand msu but I was born and raised withing minutes of East Lansing and live along the Red Cedar. It does not reek of sewage and I can not ever remember someone being killed by the train running near campus. I will admit that the new art muesuem is hideous and an eyesore. If you don't like the campus fine but no need to make things up. The facilities can't be to run down because my borther in law a proffesor there just lured one of U of M's faculty members to state to work with him running a program working with people who have downs or asd. I doubt they would have left Michigan to work at State if they felt the facilities were sub par. Is Michigan the better university yes do they have a better campus yes! But East Lansing is not this horrible prison camp that only the dredges of society end up. That is Columbus.
April fools joke, his mom signed it as "Mrs. McTrollololololooooo"
Ok Magnus, now start giving out 2015 ratings. No more excuses.
I posted the final 2014 ratings this morning.
The 2015 rating will be up tomorrow morning.
Good luck to him. Glad his family finally allowed him to follow his dreams.
If I recall correctly, either of his parents could sign after March 31 (before then it was just his custodial parent - i.e., his mom). Best guess would be dad signed, which would make breakfast at mom's house ... interesting this morning.
In any event, as someone above noted best of luck to him on a personal level - on a team level, not so much. I hope his mother's concerns were baseless and he has a great academic and athletic career.
Good Luck to the young man. He showed some character in holding strong to what he wanted. Honestly, if it would have been the other way around and this kid stayed strong to Michigan when his mother was dead set on him attendiing Ohio and was so vocal against us he would be immediately a cult hero in Ann Arbor.
Normally I would be upset to lose a 5 star recruit that we were the huge favorite for going back a couple years. And to lose him to MSU would be doubly hard, but this was a done deal back in December so I wasn't counting on him. Good to see he and his mother came to some agreement and he's getting to pursue his dreams at the school of his choice. Wish him the best in life, hope he is a total bust on the football field.
Damn, he would have looked so good in Maize and Blue, the exact type of huge athlete Hoke has been trying to build both lines around.
have done in a situation like this where the athlete wanted to come but the parents didn't want him to come to Michigan to this extent.
My guess is that Hoke would walk away from them in the best interest of the family. I guess that's part of the difference in the two coaches. I don't see Brady Hoke allowing this circus to happen.
— Tom VanHaaren (@TomVH) April 2, 2014
Just curious as to how you think Mark Dantonio allowed this circus to happen? The way I see it Dantonio made the kid an offer and the kid accepted it even against the wishes of his parents. After the young man made his choice dad supported it, mom didn't and he ended up where he wanted to be. This was a family issue that ended up being aired by local sports media and mom, not MSU/Dantonio and the family. I don't think Hoke and staff would have done much different had Michigan been in MSU's position to be honest.
Best of luck to him. Happy to see this saga mercifully end
Would now awkward to attend. Maybe in a few years this will be forgotten by most and nobody will care.
Its National Peanut Butter and Jelly Day!
I wonder how many redundent "best of luck to him" or some variance of that posts we can fit into one thread.
I never could see the point to all the "best of luck" stuff. Who cares what kind of luck he has, especially at MSU.
many people don't like badmouthing high school kids who ended up in a very uncommn and difficult position while trying to make one of the most important decisions of his life.
Doesnt mean you need to anonymously wish him success at a school other than the one this site is dedicated to. Not wishing him luck is not the same as bad mouthing him. Personally, every time a kid goes somewhere else i think, "Hopefully he gets a solid job outside of football someday, but i hope he regrets this decision everyday." I don't feel the need to post it every time though. Out of sight, out of mind.
come from bad-mouthing him, but don't try to convince me that the family "ended up" in that position. They put themselves there, period. In fact, even the tweet served no useful purpose. I suspect that both the MSU staff and his mother knew he had signed the LOI. The rest was a continuation of the game they began - letting the story play out in front of the world.
It is because that there are alot of nerds floating around in these parts, trying to act all cool and righteous... but the outpouring of wishing him luck, to me, makes them look silly. Better to simply ignore and move on.
Agreed. I wish him no more luck than any other random kid who signed a NLI to a school other than Michigan.
get here and obviously his mother had concerns over what would happen if he went there. I do hope it works out for him.
I'm certainly not hoping that he becomes a murderer or rapist or ski-mask-wearing thug, but there are probably 13,000-14,000 kids playing FBS football. Minus about 115 who wear wings on their helmets, I don't care much about any of them having more luck than any other.
Lots of moms have concerns about where their son attends college, whether he gets into trouble or not, etc.
Another head case to MSU.
I'm not sure it is fair to call him a head case. Who knows why McDowell wants to go to State but he hasn't flipped his commitment ten times or been unloading in the media. I would obviously prefer he play for Michigan and it is disappointing he won't be.
And besides, even if he was a certifiable head case, he's a 17-year old kid who has been through a very public dispute with his parents that also probably unleashed all that is horrible with internet trolling. Give the kid a break.
Finally it's over and I can now get back to my life. /s
Seriously though, I don't really care if he has a sucessful career or not as long as he is a non-factor against UM.
Sad to think how we whiffed on both Hand and McDowell.... still feels like we're weak on the DL because of it... I know its irrational, however, it is what it is.
silver lining? Only time will tell.
... and then I remembered that "last night" was still April Fool's day. I will continue to follow this saga with rapt attention until I receive a clear sign that McDowell just isn't interested in us.
Awesome. Hope he goes 0-4 against UM.
That's not just him in particular, but the whole MSU squad.
Glad this drama is done with
Michigan should deman a refund from Sam Webb. Derp.
And all the nonsense... But if you read the quotes from MM's father, it sure makes one wonder where a lot of the Michigan Media (if you will) were going with this thing.
Bottom line, he'd been green for months, and there didn't seem to be much ambiguity or wavering. And the even bottomer line, nice to move on.
Can't wait to hear what his mom has to say. Get your popcorn ready folks!
He didn't have a television announcement with the hats in front of him and then his mother going postal about his selection of the "wrong" school. that scene was bizarre.
good. Kid didn't deserve that crap.
I wish him luck, but it's pretty clear he's going to strip mall city for the wrong reasons. That's why his mother objected.
I knew he wasn't coming here when it was 3rd and a billion in the second half of this year's game against Sparty.
Sparty slappies are reporting he signed a B1G tender on national signing day, basically meaning any other B1G school was off the board because he'd have to sit out a year then.
What the heck? Why the heck were we still wasting our time on him? And what the heck was Sam Webb talking about? If he did sign the tender with Sparty, there was zero chance he was going to another B1G school. That would explain why FSU was in it late. Seems like some supposed recruiting experts completely dropped the ball on this.
Doesn't suck too much because we knew he wanted to go to MSu since December. But on the other hand it sucks really hard since he was a lock to Michigan for the better part of 2 years before that. Even when we lost hand, I was somewhat OK with it knowing that Malik was still coming here. Really a thin class on the D line. We basically have taken Taco Charlton as our only pure DE commit in 2 classes.
Malcolm McDowell's face looks like he is constantly in the act of putting a hit out on someone.
In fairness, he may be typecast. He's played some pretty ruthless characters over the years:
just dragged it out for the publicity
Yeah. He really likes publicity. That's why he responded to every interview request, got on ESPN constantly, etc. He's a total diva. I swear, you put a microphone in front of the guy and he won't shut up! Didn't you see him on TV and on the radio and giving interviews to Rivals and Scout and 247, like, every day for the past two months. Yep. Definitely did it for the publicity.
If he were a real Michigan man, he would just make a nice, quiet rap on a national television sports station about his future destination and put on a replica helmet for everyone to see. Instead, the attention whore got on Twitter and was all like "I'm glad to say I finally signed with MSU!" The nerve of that guy.
So we can officially put this crap to bed now, right?