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Maurice Clarett confirms what we all already knew about Ohio State

There is an article on Deadspin today about a new book entitled4th and Goal:One Man's quest to capture his dream written by Forbes writer Monte Burke. The subject of the book is Joe Moglia, former CEO of TD Ameritrade who gave up his lofty position to become a football coach for the Omaha Nighthawks.

The excerpt included on Deadspin is centered around Clarett, and his path through life (including high school, his time as a student at Ohio State in Columbus, and the crazy turns his life took afterwards. It is quite a tale, and interesting, even without the Buckeye schadenfreude.

The money shot (at least for me) was this gem:

He was a hard worker in practice and in games. But off the field, he was living a completely different life. "I took golf, fishing, and softball as classes," Clarett says. "Away from class, anything you can think of I did in my 13 months at Ohio State." Drugs and women were two of the things. Cars were another—he owned three of them at a time, including a brand-new Cadillac and Lexus. "I was living the NFL life in college," he says. "I got paid more in college than I do now in the UFL.

Here is the link, for anyone who is interested:

http://deadspin.com/5967649/how-maurice-clarett-lost-his-way-bombed-out-...

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | Thank you Maurice! (Score:5 Normal)
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You sir...are...

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | It's sad the most shocking (Score:5 Normal)
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It's sad the most shocking thing about that quote for me was the fact he took golf, fishing, and softball as classes.

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | I take it you are too young (Score:5 Normal)
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I take it you are too young to remember Andy Katzenmoyer?

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:00 PM | Ahhh - The Original Mr. "Golf Appreciation" (Score:5 Normal)
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1016173/index.htm

Katz was at Ohio back when I lived in Columbus, I knew quite a few people that took Golf Appreciation with him.

Only for them, it was a fun senior year...I've done my work course. For him it was a keep me eligible, I'm never going to graduate so let me take 5 years of electives in 3 so I can get out of your hair and on to the NFL course.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:12 PM | Holy moly! Yeah, that was a (Score:4 Funny)
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Holy moly! Yeah, that was a bit before my time.

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:33 PM | I'm sad and jealous (Score:2)
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The insane Clarett saga just keeps getting better.   And after grinding through a UM undergrad engineering curriculum, I'm both saddened and jealous that someone's college experience can be comprised of a smattering of physical education courses.  

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:43 PM | Why jealous? (Score:5 Normal)
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Not only did you study engineering, but you did so at Michigan; two things you should ( and I am pretty sure you are) be very proud of. We all see how his college "education" has served him. If anybody should be jealous here it is me. I secretely harbor a little bit of it towards all of the UM grads and alumi on here. Not in the perceived Spary sense mind you, but in the fact that I wish I could say that I am a UM grad/student. It's one thing to be a fan of UM and a supporter of the university, but to say you walked the Diag, or partied at Rick's and had a Bllimpy burger the morning after, and most importanly, possess a UM degree is just a whole different experience.

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December 13th, 2012 at 4:27 PM | Jealous (Score:1 Trolling)
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Jealous because my golf game *really* suffered while at UM because I had no time to golf.   A golf phys ed course would have been a great excuse to keep my game sharp!   I attended grad school at an ACC university, and I was jealous when I found out that undergrads were required to take phys ed.    Stupid, petty jealously.

I, of course, am completely happy to not be in Maurice's current situation thanks in part to my UM degree.

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December 13th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | Given that he ended up in (Score:3 Normal)
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Given that he ended up in jail, I'm not jealous at all.

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:10 PM | Yeah what a moron.  He could (Score:4 Funny)
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Yeah what a moron.  He could have also taken bowling.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:32 PM |  You have to read between the (Score:5 Normal)
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 You have to read between the lines. The most shocking thing is that he took golf, fishing and softball as classes but was still flunking out of school!

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:47 PM | Fishing (Score:5 Normal)
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Here he is going fishing.  The sad thing is the NCAA will go all Honey Badger on this and not give a shit.

"I knew Bo Schembechler and you sir, are no Bo Schembechler!"

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 AM | Annnddd how is ohio not (Score:5 Normal)
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Annnddd how is ohio not getting in trouble when he just clearly said he was taking money?

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | Easy (Score:5 Normal)
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Because it's The Ohio State University...and the NCAA is a joke.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:58 AM | Statute of limitations? I (Score:4 Normal)
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Statute of limitations? I can't imagine Clarett would have spoken out like this if OSU could get in trouble for it. As far as I know, he doesn't have any axe to grind with them, does he?

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:07 PM | He's said it before... (Score:5 Normal)
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He's a felon, no one believes him. He's made too many mistakes to be taken seriously or to be a credible source in the eyes of many.

And yes, everyone in Ohio hates him. They love Tressel, he's the one who got that NC ring, not Clarett.

Ohio will never get in trouble, but we knew it was going on...we also knew nothing was going to happen.

You think Troy Smith wasn't getting anything? Mr. Pryor? I've seen with my own eyes Terrelle Pryor (on an unofficial visit during a dead period) taken from his seats at a Ohio Basketball game and taken on a Facility Tour during the game. Guess who else happened to be on that tour? Mr. Tressel. Sure they "bumped" into each other and talked in the hallway for 30 minutes before TP found his way back to those seats that he paid for on his unofficial.

Clarett's cars were incredible though - that guy didn't even TRY to hide it. I felt like TP did, but he was just too flashy of a personality to do it. Couldn't help himself. But Mo was the OG of that Tressel era - its a shame that the whole state dumped on him while they hail the old man as a scarlet and grey pope.

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:01 PM | Actual photo of NCAA reaction (Score:5 Normal)
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Actual photo of NCAA reaction when a university obstructs and obscures an investigation rather than cooperates.

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:02 PM | 4-year Statute of Limitations (Score:4 Normal)
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Plus, one man's word against another isn't enough for investigators to find wrongdoing. But yeah, I'm surprised that nothing came out of it when he tried to cooperate with the NCAA back in 2004.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 PM | It never made sense.  The (Score:5 Normal)
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It never made sense.  The NCAA ruled him permanently ineligible based on benefits he received during his year there, but somehow did not require OSU to vacate the games he played in. 

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:54 PM | Because Clarett lost his case (Score:5 Normal)
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Because Clarett lost his case against the NFL and had to wait a year to get drafted, got way out of shape, and had an awful combine. At that point his agent (who wrote a book about how he was paying college players but didn't have Maurice until later) got Clarett to recant everything he had said about Ohio State as part of a general whitewashing of his image. It worked--he got drafted despite being utterly useless to the NFL. And that as far as the NCAA was concerned was enough to not investigate.

Yes the statute of litations for anything that went on in 2002 is now up. If it was a real legal case it was obviously an ongoing conspiracy, but NCAA doesn't work that way--if the school won't admit guilt and accept sanctions they seldom do much, a few notable examples nonwithstanding.

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:17 PM | Duh (Score:1)
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The internal investigation clearly revealed that nothing wrong ever happened.  In fact, it is an insult for you to ask the question!

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:34 PM |  He was interviewed when the (Score:2 Normal)
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 He was interviewed when the NCAA did their investigation in columbus. At that time he said nothing was going on. The guy has changed his story almost on a weekly basis and this just screams I need money buy my book.

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:44 PM | NCAA was busy busting excessive stretchers and could (Score:4 Normal)
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Not be bothered with small stuff like that

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:50 PM | Well, (Score:1)
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as we speak they are not getting ready to play ND for the Mythical National Title, so I think they find of are.

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December 13th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | I think Clarett said that he (Score:1 Trolling)
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I think Clarett said that he acted on his own accord. At least that's what he claimed when he was in prison.

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December 13th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | Acted on his own accord? (Score:2)
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That should never have washed with the NCAA if he used that excuse with them.  You don't get 3 luxury cars "on your own accord".  

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | Yeah, I would have gone to (Score:2)
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Yeah, I would have gone to OSU if I could take golf, fishing, softball classes, get paid and own three cars as well.

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:08 PM | I still wouldn't. (Score:5 Normal)
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I still wouldn't.

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:50 PM | Not if the outcome (Score:2)
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Not if the outcome meant you had to spend time in the Ohio prison system...

"I knew Bo Schembechler and you sir, are no Bo Schembechler!"

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December 13th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | So.... (Score:2)
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There's a difference between the two???

The Team, The Team, The Team

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:56 AM | Dear Mitch (Score:5 Normal)
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Dear Mitch, if you're holding this letter you already know. The house has been boarded up. The doors. The windows. Everything. We're at the Comfort Inn. Room 112. I love you. Frank

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | And not one OSU fan, teacher, coach or administrator (Score:4 Normal)
93Grad
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will feel the slighest bit bad about any of that.  They truly are a win at all costs institution and that credo permeates the entire sick lot of them starting at the top with Gee, Smith and now Meyer.

 

Its disgusting and no one seems to care.    

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:04 PM | i tried posting this (Score:5 Normal)
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to Facebook, and within 5 minutes I got replies from 4 Buckeye fans who said the only reasn I posted it was because I was mad they beat Michigan this year, or that it doesn't matter because it was so long ago, or some other reply intimating that I was simply jealous or whatever.

I thought about asking them if they really wanted their kids to idolize such a place and what that would ultimately teach their children about their parents and life in general, then I decided I didnt want this to take over my day, and I just took it down.

Like my sig line used to say, "Never argue with a fool. People may not know the difference"

ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules

 

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:12 PM | "I thought about asking them (Score:5 Normal)
mGrowOld
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"I thought about asking them if they really wanted their kids to idolize such a place"

Benoit.....I live down here.  The answer to that question would be an emphatic YES!

 

 

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:24 PM | I know all too well (Score:3 Normal)
Benoit Balls
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My family moved me from Ferndale to the East SIde of Cleveland in 1978. Much of my childhood was spent running from older kids before I got on the bus after school, because they wanted to beat me for wearing Michigan gear (my sarcastic personality probably helped as well). And that was only in Cleveland.

I live outside of Columbus now, and I've had grown men shout out to me in a parking lot "Michigan sucks!". This is while they are walking into Target with their kids, as I am walking out with mine. 

I haved lived amongst Ohio fans most of my life. When they ask me how I can be a Michigan fan since I live in Ohio, I wish I had a video to replay for them of me hiding in the bathroom as a ten year old because the 7th graders have threatened to gang up on me on the way out to the buses.

ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules

 

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 PM | i also live in northeast ohio (Score:4 Normal)
wiper
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i also live in northeast ohio and wear my michigan hat everywhere i go. i get a bit of harassment, but i'm 6'2" 250lbs, most people tend to leave me alone. lol

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December 13th, 2012 at 4:18 PM | NE Ohio seems pretty tame (Score:1)
Club2230
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I've lived in the Cleveland area for four and a half years now and I've had absolutely zero issues.  I overheard one OSU fan in a bar talking that he would rather beat an undefeated UofM team.  I am not 6'-2' and 250 and have no problem wearing my gear.  Cleveland is a Browns city before and OSU one.

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December 13th, 2012 at 4:29 PM | that's for sure (Score:2)
Benoit Balls
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and thanks to my Grandfather (who had Browns season tickets from 1946-1985), I am one of the downtrodden masses who has had to deal with Art Modell and Randy Lerner.  I know the Fords haven't been much better for Lions fans, but I feel confident in saying Art Modell might very well have been the worst owner in the NFl's history.

ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules

 

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December 13th, 2012 at 11:59 AM | Was he interviewed in initial investigation (Score:2)
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I do apologize if this had already been covered, but was Clarett ever brought in and interviewed during the initial investigation, and if not is there enough smoke with these comments to open as second, separate investigation?

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | Not. Gonna. Happen (Score:4 Normal)
Benoit Balls
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They wanted Clarett to talk, and for a while it appeared as though he may. Ultimately though, he was re-accepted into the fold at OSU (I think he even tried to take some more classes there), and he never gave the NCAA anything.

And since it was 10 years ago, I doubt it would matter anyway. Come to think of it, since this is the NCAA we are talking about, it could have been 10 minutes ago and it wouldn't matter.

ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules

 

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December 13th, 2012 at 4:47 PM | Around that time didn't Tressel get (Score:2)
True Blue Grit
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Clarett an apartment in Columbus or some such story, or did that come later?  I always thought he was doing that to help ensure Clarett kept his mouth shut.

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:12 PM | Ten years ago, OSU nation (Score:5 Normal)
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Ten years ago, OSU nation would have denied those quotes and called them flat out lies (which they did.)

Today, they acknowledge that cheating and ask,"so what? Yeah, we break the rules, but rules are stupid so we shouldn't be punished. We cheat but we still beat you."

Seriously, fuck OSU.

Go Blue!  Always!

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 PM | Remember (Score:5 Normal)
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when they played in the Sugar Bowl and one of the announcers said OSU's style reminded him of SEC schools. I thought that was an ironic comment.

Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05

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December 14th, 2012 at 1:05 AM | They were essentially an SEC (Score:0)
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They were essentially an SEC North team in regard to how they operate for a long time. Sadly, will likely get worse the more pressure urb has to never lose in a mediocre conference. He will blossom into who he is: A guy with an ego too big to take losing. That will (has in some ways) have him pushing the envelope soon. Also, remember that being said and also took notice and thought the same.

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December 13th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | Sadly, wrong. I'm sure some (Score:1 Normal)
Danwillhor
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Sadly, wrong. I'm sure some do but even after the violations and sanctions almost all osu fans on the major sites/blogs believe MoC was lying THEN and believe his claim of such when he learned he could get back into the osu family if he said as much. So much denial of obvious cheating that it angers me more that the school, alums, students and fans don't see it or acknowledge it than the cheating itself. Those osu fans (about 80%) are just amazingly capable of denial, pick and choosing storied to believe and especially willing ignorance. THAT, more than anything, makes me hate anything associated with that school.

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:15 PM | Two wild and crazy guys!     (Score:5 Normal)
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Two wild and crazy guys!

 

 

The swag is back. 

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 PM | And their punishment was an (Score:5 Normal)
His Dudeness
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And their punishment was an upgrade at coach and a one year bowl ban. Oh and the easiest possible division to win of all the BCS conferences. I for one am shocked attendance is down. The sport really has its priorities in line from what I can see.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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December 13th, 2012 at 4:20 PM | I know Meyer is the hot name (Score:1)
Club2230
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All biases aside, I think Tressell was a better coach than Meyer.

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December 13th, 2012 at 10:46 PM | Ahhhh, but what a one year (Score:2)
M-Dog
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Ahhhh, but what a one year bowl ban it turned out to be.  

Undefeated but watching the NC on TV, just like my grandma.

 

M'Dog

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December 13th, 2012 at 12:18 PM | Don't Big Ten rules require a (Score:2)
jmblue
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Don't Big Ten rules require a player to make progress each term toward graduation?  That lineup of classes doesn't sound like it.

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