Unbelievable. MSU coming off of their dream season and we're 8-0 (9-0 if you count Shane)against them in head to head recruiting. Lets keep the streak going and right things this fall in Spartan Stadium. Next up.....
While I'll miss the spread O, Hoke and company seem to be doing all the right things. Keep it going in recruiting and hopefully on the field this fall.
Hmmm...8-0, they must've gone
I thought it was because the
I thought it was because the kicking game has been awful...
Quoting Woody Hayes will
Quoting Woody Hayes will never be in good taste.
Even considering the
Even considering the circumstances under which he said that, I still like that one quote of his.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
This is an
all-time classic quote. Even Bo chuckled about it. I am fortunate to have witnessed several Bo/Woody moments over the years. Woody was a class act and Bo loved him even though Woody coached that team down south.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
Except when he punched that
Except when he punched that opposing player. That wasn't very classy.
Oh, and when he got his team on NCAA probation for giving money to players. That wasn't classy either.
Oh, and when he was put on probation by the Big Ten for assaulting a cameraman. That wasn't very classy.
If you also count Poole and Clark,
If you also count Poole and Clark, along with Morris, its 11-0 for Hoke against Dantonio
Hoke is cleaning house. I
Hoke is cleaning house. I made a comment last fall on here that didn't go over too well with the board that the best thing to happen to MSU football wasn't the hiring of Mark Dantonio, but it was the hiring of Rich Rodriguez. I still stand by that. Although coach D seems to get a lot out of his 2 and 3 star diamond in the rough recruits, we can't continue to build a program on that. Your defense will be a nightmare in a couple of years.
Your friendly neighborhood Sparty
Couldn't have said it better
Couldn't have said it better myself, very well put!
Indeed
Your melon hat has made you wise.
Can you shed any light on the RCMB's habit of locking any thread that discusses Michigan recruiting? I only glance over there every now and then (I've never posted; I just read for a sense of reaction and a touch of schadenfreude), but I can't help but notice the speed with which the lock falls.
I wonder this also....
I don't get the quick locking and even sometimes complete removal of threads Are they that high strung?
I'm guessing they are super
I'm guessing they are super insecure and delusional over there. They seems to talk about out of state recruiting and how MD develops talent better than anyone in the universe.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
My guess
People have started pointing out these meltdown threads more on Mgoboard and it makes 247 look as crappy as it really is. scUM ho!
Abort, Retry, Fail?
Considering the two
Considering the two posts:
"Bump when your wife is a bitch" and "Bump when you kill a house centipede", I'm forced to agree.
Who needs Mathlete analysis when you can talk shit about your wife behind her back? That's what sports are all about, right?
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
I don't know how much time you've spend in MI
but those house centipedes are creepy. I lived in a house senior year with a cracked foundation and the basement hallway outside my room kept flooding. I got an 'up close and personal' view of the insect life of the state of michigan every time it rained. On the plus side, we had a lovely backyard and garden with a lot of huge trees and wildflowers and stuff.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
Well, the only times I lived
Well, the only times I lived in MI I was a bit young to remember stuff like that. As far as staying there now, I have an uncle in Grand Rapids where deer is more likely to be a problem than bugs, and uncle in A2, but in a newer house without a cracked foundation, and then an uncle in Brighton who, when I was younger, had a playhouse set up in his yard with all kinds of bugs in it. If I were to post about centipedes in that thing, I would be on RCMB all day, but not in an actual house I've stayed in.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
I don't think it's odd.
I don't think it's odd. Michigan is off-topic for them, and discussing us seems to lead to nasty arguments. So they lock UM-related threads before they get out of hand.
Yeah,
Michigan might be OT for them, but a) they have most generous OT allowances in the known universe ("Bump when your wife is a bitch"???), and b) when one of their targeted recruits goes elsewhere, I can't see that being OT.
I guess it's just a meltdown avoidance mechanism. I was just curious.
I don't read RCMB, so I have
I don't read RCMB, so I have no knowledge of the thread-locking you guys are talking about, but it's not like threads here haven't been locked. There's an entire sticky thread about what's been deleted or locked and why (one that got so long they had to start another, and probably soon a third). Unless I'm missing something (which I usually am), I'm not sure why rampant locking and/or deleting of melt-down threads is such a mystery.
good start
if we can put an end to the awful 3-0 streak this season, it'll be an even better finish
Guys ...
we are Michigan ... we need to stop obsessing over MSU and concentrate on more relevant opposition (read Ohio & Alabama in 2012)
GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY
i agree
but first we need to beat them, then we can return to normalcy and focus on the bigger games.
Attitude
is everything. We obsess around them, we'll be stuck with them.
GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY
ummm
so many things wrong with this "argument". but i'll stick to the most basic one: since when has being focused on beating an opponent been a bad thing???
Sorry
I am high on commitments and the celebratory beer.
I talk crap when I am high.
GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY
celebratory beer at 10am on a
celebratory beer at 10am on a thursday morning? well now i'm just jealous.
Sorry pet peeve
"return to normality", Returning to normalcy would require a time machine.
How do you figure?
How do you figure?
Sent From My Commodore 64
Normalcy v. Normality.
President Harding created the word 'normalcy' and was badly admonished for it. Somehow it seeped into the U.S. vernacular as a new synonym for normality. Normality has tradition on its side, but both are now accepted parts of English language. Calling "normalcy" an English error is an exercise in ignorant esoteric elitism.
"I have long thought that anyone who does not regularly - or ever - gaze up and see the wonder and glory of a dark night sky filled with countless stars loses a sense of their fundamental connectedness to the universe."
BOOM
English/Theatre Major'd.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
If you had asked me three
If you had asked me three years ago (or hell, even a year ago) if I thought of MSU as a rival, I would have said no. Beating MSU wasn't any better than beating any other team (although, losing to them hurt worse). But the fact is, the last three years have changed things. The in-state rivalry has been re-ignited. If you still don't think of MSU as a rival or not worthy of thinking about, you haven't been paying attention the past few years.
Yes
but not to the point where we go all obsessive over them. You obsess about mediocre teams, you can't focus on the bigger objective.
I understand one step at a time and all that but they don't deserve the attention from us they are getting is my more subtle point.
GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY
We're fans. Our focus has
We're fans. Our focus has next to no impact on whether "bigger objectives" are achieved.
Galileo was also chastised.
I like your topic of being 8
I like your topic of being 8 and 0 against Lansing, however, I just can't bring myself to like the spread. It was not RR, or anything like that, I just have never been a fan of any spread offense. I look at Purdue and the lack of success they have had running it, albeit lack of quality players, but still realistically it has not been very successful in the Big Ten. I am not sure if Hoke is the answer to all of our prayers, but his recruiting has been very successful thus far. I am hoping the trend continues on the field in the fall.
Some things
Some things just 'fit'
Its like love.
Hoke loves and understands Michigan. It is why he will be successful here at Michigan.
RR came here to do a job.
GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY
Yes, the spread offense that
Yes, the spread offense that was featured by both teams in the National Championship game could have NEVER worked in the Big Bad Big Ten. I am not arguing that RR should still be the coach here, but saying the spread offense wouldn't work in the Big Ten is moronic at best.
" I want to win Big 10 titles. Multiply. Consecutively. I just made that word up (multiply). I'm like that. I'm good at Scrabble."
Agree - look at 2006
Doesn't anyone remember how OSU beat us in 2006? They spread the field. They told us they were going to spread the field and they did. Then they won. When we beat Florida the following year, we spread the field. It wasn't read option, but it was spread. And it worked. In the Big 10.
I'd also add
that for the most part the teams that make the BCS title game have rock solid defenses no matter what style of offense they run.
Good point
I think that's a bigger factor than their spread offenses
People are also forgetting
People are also forgetting that it's Purdue. Tiller had nine win seasons in West Lafayette; how is that not successful? Also, like other people have said, look at NU.
To the original comment: I could also look at Minnesota and conclude that pro style offenses suck. I'd just forget to look at Alabama and USC and think it was a good argument.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
LOL
yeah those spread offenses really struggle to produce. Oregon, Auburn, Florida, etc. all really have a hard time putting up points...
Hide ya kids, hide ya wife.
There is something about the
There is something about the Big 10 where third and fourth wide receivers cease to be good. Come on man; seriously? You look at the second least talented team in the Big 10 and deduce that spreads don't work because of them? I guess App State, Oregon, Florida (against OSU), TCU, and Texas (VY twice against the B10) don't count because they aren't technically IN the Big Ten. Also, I suppose we have superior athletes to the SEC where Spread Teams tend to win the conference more often than not these days.
For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.
I wouldn't like having Auburn
I wouldn't like having Auburn or Oregon's offense either. Scoring that many points just wouldn't work in the Big Ten!
I tried to see the reaction on RCMB
but I was laughing at the ridiculous "Bump When Your Wife is a Bitch Thread" and the "Hot or Not: the NEW Bristol Palin" thread.
Not sure how to ask this, so I'll just come right out with it.
Soooo......
What's the verdict? Is the new Bristol hot? Or is she not?
Thank god those guys are taking on the tough job of sussing that out. Truly God's work over there.
Meanwhile, on Mgoboard...
...We're discussing our possible recruiting goals for the class of 2013 with a high level of analysis. Night, meet Day.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
Went over there...
for the first time last week to lurk. Holy crap, I can't stop reading it now. If there was a message board version of a train wreck, it's that page.
Feels Good
Feels, like the tides are turning back to us. This is the benefit of being Michigan though isnt it? You have 3 sub par years, bring in a new coach, it gets national media attention when it happens and after (Urban Meyer visit), and now the recruits feel the buzz around M and want to be part of it. I can't wait for the storm to finally clear and things to get back to the way they used to be.
David Cone is my homeboy...
because I had to look this up
2011 class: Frank Clark, Antonio Poole
2012 class: Matt Godin, Pharaoh Brown, Mario Ojemudia, James Ross, Devin Funchess, A.J. Williams, Royce Jenkins-Stone, Ben Braden
2013 class: Shane Morris
Phil Brabbs FTW
Are there really this many
Are there really this many solid contributers in Michigan this year? Per Brian's posts on in-state talent last week, it seems there end up being only about 5 quality D1 players per year.
Hmmm...8-0, they must've gone for two. Why did they go for two? Because they couldn't go for three...yet.