Let’s talk about the Spartans

Submitted by TK on November 5th, 2019 at 12:25 PM

Put me in that category of fans who never takes this game for granted. Since we have a bye, I will be checking out their game vs Illinois pretty closely. The line right now is very surprising in my opinion. Currently MSU -16. That seems really high but it’s tough to know for sure how they will respond to adversity. Their offense is currently putrid, but they have also played 3 consecutive games vs top defenses. Looks like they are missing their center Matt Allen and their top WR Stewart for the Illinioos game, and who knows how long after that. Their top OL is Jarvis and he might be back vs us but was not listed on the Illinois depth chart. 

Overall, I feel like they are a similar team to what they were last year. A below average OL, a QB that can make plays if given the chance, and a set of mediocre play makers. On defense they are good at stopping the run but have been suspect in the secondary. With the loss of Bachie, it will be interesting to see if their run stopping will take a big hit. If they blow out Illinois, they probably come into AA with confidence that they have weathered the storm and can salvage the season. If they lose, or win a close one, it might be an indicator they have rolled over and quit on the season. 

We should be very solid favorites in this game. If I had a concern it would be that they manage to score some on some scripted stuff, we struggle to run the ball and Shea makes enough mistakes to keep them in the game. Feels like we are due for a blowout though and I’m hoping this is the year where it all comes together vs them. 

Larry Appleton

November 5th, 2019 at 12:28 PM ^

Even Dantonio's 3-9 team played our Orange Bowl team kind of tough (although it was a three score game late in the game).  Unless he's totally lost the team, they will not just roll over and die for us.

joedafan

November 5th, 2019 at 1:05 PM ^

I have commented on this in the past and then people have attacked me for being an ignoramus. I suspect that will happen again. Nevertheless:

MSU -16 is absurd. That's exactly why you should expect them to cover. The public will jump on Illinois plus 16. That's what the oddsmakers want.

No, not every game on the board can be judged this way.

Yes, usually the sharp money is what moves lines.

No, this doesn't work 100% of the time because Vegas doesn't actually fix games (or at least can't ensure the fixes).

Yes, sometimes bookmakers actually need a certain side and set the line to get what they want. 

Davymac97.

November 5th, 2019 at 12:31 PM ^

If there was ever a year to blow them out, this is it.  Michigan is better than State in every area this year, Michigan is at home, and Michigan has two weeks to prepare.  

I'm not worried about Mork Z'ambonio having Staee hyped up.  Harbaugh has demonstrated that he will have Michigan just as emotionally ready to go.

 

Jangalang

November 5th, 2019 at 3:52 PM ^

Completely agree that next year is going to be miserable for them.  Also wasn't sure what to make of this article from Det News.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2019/11/01/these-players-give-michigan-state-football-hope-better-days/4122374002/

They do have a few good younger players (Dobbs, Collins, Barnett,) but I can't help but think of this article as a bit of satire.

rice4114

November 6th, 2019 at 12:08 AM ^

Struggle to score against Army, struggle at times to even get a first vs Maryland and Illinois. 
 

Fool me once shame on (MS) you. Dantonio is something like 10-1 against the spread vs Michigan. If you dont see a frustrating afternoon ahead on offense I dont know what to tell you. MSU + a clunky UM offense is a recipe for disaster. Im ready for it to be too close for comfort. Fool me 9 times shame on me.

Ty Butterfield

November 5th, 2019 at 12:36 PM ^

Yeah I am interested to see how they look against Illinois. Definitely not taking Staee for granted. Losing Bachie is a huge blow for their D. Also, Dantini playing musical QBs last week was just odd. Road team has won the last four games. Time to break that streak and get a win at home. 

Goggles Paisano

November 5th, 2019 at 12:37 PM ^

I expect a tight game, as usual.  This is the only game that will really get Sparty's attention and I expect them to come out fighting.  On paper we should kick their ass, but it most often does not seem to go that way.  

evenyoubrutus

November 5th, 2019 at 12:38 PM ^

On another note, there are rumors that this will be Dantonio's last season, and next year he will be promoted to AD and replaced by Fickell. This rumor certainly passes the smell test, since Fickell has an eerily similar career path as Dantonio did before arriving at MSU. And Mork seems like the perfect fit to tune that school's Athletic department. 

Question is, if we beat them, will he delay his retirement a year to try and go out with a win against scUM.