Scarlatina

December 4th, 2023 at 12:29 PM ^

Sad to see Julian Fleming go, and wish him the best. He has been one of the grittiest players on the team, and a great leader by example.

Fleming came in as a highly-rated recruit, but suffered repeated shoulder injuries since the end of his high school career. He’s had so many surgeries on his shoulders now that he often jokes they are held together by duct tape.

Last season, Fleming said he had to just change his mentality about waiting to be fully healthy before stepping onto the field and accept that his shoulders will never be 100%. So now he just plays thru the pain, and when he dislocates his shoulders, he just goes to the sideline, pops them back in and goes back out.

When he’s mostly healthy though, he has WR1 potential and I hope he can show-out for his next program.

 

Scarlatina

December 4th, 2023 at 1:05 PM ^

I would assume that if Fleming stayed he would be guaranteed the same/similar role that he held the last two seasons as WR3. I imagine a combination of Brandon Innis and Carnell Tate are going to replace MHJr./Egbuka’s roles.

Fleming can likely thrive as a WR1 elsewhere like Jameson Williams did when he went to Alabama (or Sam Wiglusz to a certain degree at Ohio University).

Blue in Paradise

December 4th, 2023 at 12:29 PM ^

As much as I wish this was a sign of OSU imploding, Fleming hitting the portal is entirely logical.

He will be a 5th year senior and needs to show out in order to get a high draft rating.  He is not going to get that at OSU as he is not an MHJ level freak - and they have too many talented receivers to show out.

A move to PSU makes sense as he will get featured with a QB that has the arm to get him some numbers.

BlueManJack00

December 4th, 2023 at 1:55 PM ^

You're probably right for some but it probably goes in reverse for other players. I can see some players that went for a bag the first time around ending up at places that aren't really good fits for them. They realize that and now want to go somewhere that will develop them and utilize their skillset more. 

dragonchild

December 4th, 2023 at 12:29 PM ^

Huh?  The ship isn't even close to sinking.  Day is 56-7 (!!!) as a head coach.  Just last year they were a missed FG away from making the championship game.

Folks are starting to jump into the icy water not because the hull's been breached, but because the lobster was a little bit overcooked.

Talk about sawft. . . imagine them going through what we endured in the RichRod/Hoke years!

Booted Blue in PA

December 4th, 2023 at 1:14 PM ^

even if it isn't sinking.... if its losing crew members that it would rather keep.... we can rejoice and enjoy their discomfort, regardless of how inconsequential it may be in the bigger context.

 

After cryin' ryan's  methed up, tweeker penguin dance before The Game..... I wonder how many decided to enter that portal right then and there?

alum96

December 4th, 2023 at 12:40 PM ^

Such a tired take.  I wonder why Bama & OSU have been near the top of CFB for the last 15 years and Georgia and LSU always "don't suck".

Guess what, MOAR 3* get drafted than 5*  Cuz there are way more 3* out there.  But go do the ratios of 5 stars drafted / 5 stars exist, and do the same for 4 and 3. 

There are always misses and from all accounts his was largely due to health.

There are reasons guys like Will Johnson can play and excel in their first year.  Bama has a 5* safety phenom freshman who if eligible would be a first rounder... now.  

bronxblue

December 4th, 2023 at 12:35 PM ^

OSU had 3 of the top 5 WRs in that entire class and JSN is the only one who did much of anything in college.  It's sort of crazy.  roman Wilson down at #38 has been a better WR in college than either Scott and Fleming, and I'd argue he's about as impactful as JSN simply because he could stay healthy.

WFNY_DP

December 4th, 2023 at 1:07 PM ^

And one of the overlooked things is that Maserati Marv was the #160 player in 2021, and the #21 WR (both per 247 composite). Egbuka and Jayden Ballard also were in OSU's class that year, ranked #1 and #4 WR, #9 and #55 in the composite.

Egbuka is very good, and Ballard has nine career catches in three years.

Stars matter, but they aren't the only thing that matters.

 

1VaBlue1

December 4th, 2023 at 12:12 PM ^

Apparently, the flies are getting tired of the shit.

Only a matter of time before MHJ opts out for the NFL (which he should do, anyway) and Missouri wins the Cotton Bowl and we hear again just how strong the SEC is...

Perkis-Size Me

December 4th, 2023 at 12:13 PM ^

Normally losing a guy like this would hurt most any team, but OSU has probably 10 receivers on its roster who are ranked just like him. Especially since they have that recruit coming up from Florida next year who everyone is saying is going to be the next Julio Jones (Jeremiah Smith is his name, I think?).

Moral of the story: OSU is going to be just fine at this position.