Inside Chryst's firing at Wisconsin...

Submitted by Fishbulb on October 6th, 2022 at 6:26 PM

The Athletic had an interesting piece on Chryst's firing.  It's paywalled, of course, so I won't bother with a link.  It was death by a thousand cuts.  Some takeaways:

He was universally regarded as a great guy.

His biggest strength was also his greatest weakness--too nice.  Wouldn't fire anyone.

He made Mork-like personnel moves rather than replacing people.

He was fired not only for the product on the field, but the trajectory of the program.

Recruiting was a mess--not organized and understaffed, and he didn't address it.

Jimmy Rolder visited for a game, and NOBODY even talked to him. Nobody even knew he was coming.

He put all his eggs in to Graham Mertz's basket and didn't bring in a grad transfer to challenge him.  Caleb Williams reportedly was considering Wisconsin, and Chryst didn't even speak to him.

There was not a lot of accountability for the players.

Blue@LSU

October 6th, 2022 at 6:45 PM ^

Caleb Williams reportedly was considering Wisconsin

As a transfer or when he was a recruit out of high school? I can't imagine him considering Wisconsin over following Riley to USC.  

I feel for coaches, though. I admire loyalty and think it's an important trait. But, at the end of the day, you can't remain loyal to coaches that aren't getting the job done.

jdraman

October 6th, 2022 at 9:12 PM ^

Yes and I believe the point the author of the piece was making was to emphasize the fact that Chryst *never once* talked to Caleb Williams even when it was reported there was “interest” from Williams in Wisconsin. It was just furthering the point that Chryst was clearly neglecting the recruiting areas of his program (the Jimmy Rolder anecdote is a more egregious mistake). I don’t think the author was saying that Chryst completely fumbled the bag on a high potential transfer since most everyone knew Williams would end up at USC. But for the head coach to not even attempt to do their due diligence in a major recruiting area was the problem.

The Homie J

October 6th, 2022 at 8:21 PM ^

This is a situation Harbaugh has had to deal with, and he's done without fuss several times.  Drevno was a long time assistant, let him go.  Pep Hamilton was a long time friend, didn't even do that bad of a job (not his fault John O'Korn was playing QB because the other 2 dudes were injured).  Jim still released him.  Best example might be Don Brown, not a long time friend, but he was the best DC in the conference for a few seasons, but his scheme got scouted and Don couldn't adjust and Harbaugh took a huge chance on a rookie DC from the Ravens tree, which I'm sure wasn't an easy decision.

But this is what you sign up for when you're the guy in charge.

Stringer Bell

October 6th, 2022 at 6:46 PM ^

Yeah I'm sure Caleb Williams was seriously considering Wisconsin over joining his coach at USC.

For Chryst being such a great guy, his teams head hunted about as much as peak Dantonio MSU teams.  I'm sure that won't change under Leonhard either.  I'm quite enjoying watching Wisconsin fall back to their rightful place of mediocrity.

befuggled

October 7th, 2022 at 8:50 AM ^

Looking at the current streak, the worst Wisconsin team Ohio State had to face was 8-6 and four of those teams won 11 or more games. Ohio State played Wisconsin three times in the B1G championship game, including 2017 when Wisconsin finished 13-1.

Wisconsin is also 0-5 in one score games against Ohio State during that stretch, which has to hurt.

CityOfKlompton

October 7th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^

Williams went to high school and is friends with Dean Engram, who is a DB for Wisconsin and son of Bobby Engram, who is the current Offensive Coordinator for the Badgers. 

It was widely reported that he was strongly considering Wisconsin because of his close ties to both a current player and coach. This isn't shocking.

jdib

October 6th, 2022 at 6:48 PM ^

Disorganized recruiting and lack of NIL setup is going to be a death knell for any major university moving forward.  As good as a guy that Chryst may have been, Wisconsin was smart for addressing the problem right now before they get left behind even further.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

October 7th, 2022 at 10:08 AM ^

The first shortcoming was lobbed against Harbaugh from 2019 until the strong Dec finish last year. 
The second has been lobbed against Harbaugh the last 6 months and he openly responded in the affirmative that UM is not directly leveraging in recruiting.
The point: it seems like the shifting recruiting environment is testing “traditionalists” in CFB. UM and UW are in that mode.  These complaints usually arise as messaging that boosters are not happy. Chryst and JH are closer to the old B1G model of running a program and boosters want a more aggressive approach.

Buy Bushwood

October 6th, 2022 at 9:27 PM ^

I think that's what he's saying.  That the notions in the article seem a little light at reaching the critical mass of firing a guy who has never had a losing season since his first year coaching Pitt in 2012.  Especially when this guy is the prodigal son of Wisconsin.  This is about like the Pellini firing as far as symmetry between record and getting the ax, as in pretty asymmetric.  But Nebraska has an elite tradition.  Whereas, Christ is probably in the top 3 coaches in Wiscy history.  

befuggled

October 7th, 2022 at 8:55 AM ^

He's also the prodigal son with a new athletic director. This is pure and unadulterated speculation, but I think Alvarez would have given Chryst more time to fix the problems. I mean, Alavarez hired Chryst twice: as an assistant when Alvarez was head coach and as head coach when Alvarez was AD.

New AD Chris McIntosh was much less attached to Chryst.

Buy Bushwood

October 7th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^

No doubt.  But I find it weird without something more on the inside.  Wisconsin isn't a destination job for too many coaches.  Even Bert bolted.  Chryst won 72% of his games there.  Even if someone new got 80%, which is almost impossible, that person would then be the target of blue blood programs coast to coast.  

Naked Bootlegger

October 6th, 2022 at 7:01 PM ^

I will be walking right by Camp Randall as I leave work, so I'll let you know if I obtain any other Chryst firing nuggets from sidewalk conversations.

My info will not be paywalled.

Darker Blue

October 6th, 2022 at 7:01 PM ^

Choices always were a problem for you

What we need is someone strong to guide us 

Like Paul 

Paul Chryst why don't you come save my life now

Open my eyes blind me with your light now.

MaizeBlueA2

October 6th, 2022 at 7:02 PM ^

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Chryst, Fitz, and Ferentz are the same coach.

Good coaches who are too stubborn to change their ways and adapt to the best ways to run a program in 2022.

Fitz, should fire everyone on his staff except his OL coach, Kurt Anderson (yeah, the Michigan OL).

Anderson fell into his lap, when the HC at Arkansas was fired. He's from Evanston and went to Evanston Township HS (I think).

Ferentz needs to move his son into an administrative role and hire an OC of this millennium. He's lucky he has Phil Parker or he'd be done at Iowa.

Hell, it sounds crazy, but fire your son and hire Scott Frost as OC. Hell, what's ol Tom Herman doing these days? He'd be an upgrade from little Ferentz and his Super Tecmo Bowl playbook.

I'm sure Iowa's recruiting is just like Wisconsin. Northwestern is starting to adapt in recruiting, but they have a staff of dinosaurs trying to learn on the fly. 

Fitz should swallowed his pride like Harbaugh and went and got a young, dynamic staff...and while Harbaugh got "Michigan guys" they weren't Harbaugh guys except for the 3 JOHN Harbaugh guys.

Hart, Bellamy, Moore, Clinck...those are rock stars on any staff.

Wisconsin, Iowa and Northwestern have to change their entire program. Step into 2022. But those guys are so afraid to lose what "made them," they'd rather go down doing what got them there.

MRunner73

October 6th, 2022 at 7:28 PM ^

Good summation by lumping these three HC. Yes, these three do not think outside the box. Then there's Mel in E Lansing and you have to wonder what the hell is he doing? My take is he's taking too many shortcuts with all of these transfer/portal kids. He found lightning in a bottle with KW3. So he got one gold nugget in a world with mostly fool's gold.

And don't forget what caused Scott Frost's demise; bringing too many assistant coaches from UCF who weren't ready for B1G play. We could add them to the list.

Wisc, Iowa and NW are being left in the dust. NE and Wisc has hope with these interim HC. The next hot seat is Kirk Ferentz if IA gets blown out by IL on Saturday, say 31-0? It could happen. This will be fun.