How long until we hear about possible coaching changes for Michigan?
How long is it before we hear about possible coaching changes within the Michigan football coaching staff? As stated by Mangus in this article: http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2013/12/kansas-state-31-michigan-14.html#comment-form there have been rumors of Mallory looking for a coaching job at a smaller school, and Jackson possibly retiring. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Mallory and Jackson go. Al Borges, Dan Ferrigno, and Darrell Funk have also got to be on the hot seat. How long do you think it will be before we hear any news about possible coaching changes?
December 30th, 2013 at 7:19 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:46 PM ^
Implants have no place in football.
December 30th, 2013 at 8:17 PM ^
My bad, this is what happens when you are posting on your phone while rocking your one year old to sleep.
December 30th, 2013 at 8:33 PM ^
are only so many ways to implement the principles that are used by Wellman and co. They are sound principles. You can be as big and strong as you want, if the coaching you recieve is no good, it won't matter. If all that mattered was being big and strong, they would just recruit powerlifters to come play for them.
December 30th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^
Honestly I don't think S&C is the problem, we have a freshman TE who put on almost 30 pounds under this S&C program. The problem comes back to the mentality of the team, the teams plays hard, but they don't play with an attitude. The 2006 defense had an attitude, the 1997 defense had an attitude, the teams from 2008 to present day seem to lack a killer instinct.
December 30th, 2013 at 7:56 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:24 PM ^
If anything happens at all, my own recollection of changes through the years makes me think that - aside from unexpected departures typically - such things usually occur between the start of the new year and the spring game, although there are likely exceptions to this. It probably makes the most sense to make moves then if you are going to do something. That being said, I believe there was an article after the Ohio State game where Hoke said that he does not anticipate changes, so it seems like a realizable possibility that there may be none this time around. My guess is that if we've heard nothing by the end of January or so, there might be nothing to hear based on how the department seems to operate.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:40 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:40 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^
I can't find that original tweet anywhere.
December 30th, 2013 at 11:49 PM ^
+1 to you sir.
jdon
December 30th, 2013 at 6:31 PM ^
After another disasterous year, DB will have to clean house to save his own A_ _. A new President will be in place and the seat will be "red hot" for DB to bring in a HC and staff to right the ship.
Just hang in there one more year and the misery will be over.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:37 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 8:07 PM ^
this is how this was done in the past. Unless Mallory gets the HC position that he is looking for and of course if Coach Jackson hangs them up and either takes a job within the Ath Dept or heads out to some retirement location; I still believe there will be no changes.
sorry folks.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:42 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:08 PM ^
I think Jabrill Peppers is taking over as DB coach next season, as well as playing.
December 30th, 2013 at 8:13 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:42 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:54 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:56 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:00 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:07 PM ^
He didn't, unfortunately. There were plenty of low scoring (for us) games, the Gator bowl comes immediately to mind. OSU, MSU, Toledo...
I liked him, and wanted him to get more time, but he certainly didn't always score a lot of points. Against elite defenses we were routinely shut down.
January 6th, 2014 at 8:54 AM ^
I am in the same boat as you. I still like RR and did want him to get more time here to get things going, but that's in the past. What I always found hard to understand was how he would routinely lay eggs against elite defenses. Again, I liked (and still like) RR, but there's no denying that his offense struggled at times too, though never so much as we've witnessed this year IMHE.
December 30th, 2013 at 9:39 PM ^
your're kidding right. Borges' O has gone two games against them without scoring a TD. That didn't happen once during RR's tenure. It's interesting that you try to excuse Borges' O this year because that is the system they are implementing.
December 30th, 2013 at 9:43 PM ^
But then his offense shattered records. Inconsistency is a symptom of youth and inexperience.
December 30th, 2013 at 9:58 PM ^
There is nothing inconsistent about Indiana's defense - it is horrible all of the time.
December 30th, 2013 at 10:22 PM ^
Maybe so, but what about the OSU defense?
Look, all I am saying is that nobody should be surprised that Michigan was inconsistent on offense this year -- a simple look at the OL 2 deep would tell you that. All you guys that are up in arms obviously didn't do your due dligence based your expectations upon something other than the reality of the situation. I am not happy with the season, but I understand the reasons why a season like this was bound to happen during Hoke rebuilding. I expected it to happen, it did, and I know they'll improve going forward, so I am not concerned.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:24 AM ^
You treat this as an established, immutable fact, like the sun is going to rise in the east tomorrow morning. You can't literally know they'll improve in the future.
You can guess, or prognosticate, or hope, but you can't know. Nor can you know right now whether any improvement that they might show is enough to make them truly competitive in the conference.
December 31st, 2013 at 11:59 AM ^
to eviserate the coaching staff, you can know that a new coaching staff will be better, and the team will be competitive in the conference?
December 31st, 2013 at 12:54 PM ^
Exactly!
There is this unrealistic notion circulating through the Michigan fanbase someone else would undoubtedly do a better job than Hoke & Co., yet there is absolutely no evidence to support such a notion. However, CFB is replete with examples of programs that struggled a bit in transition with a yougn roster, stayed the course, and improved. Personally, I think that Michigan's need for stability outweighs it's need for immediate success. If the roster wasn't so lopsided towards youth, I wouldn't necessarily believe that.
December 31st, 2013 at 8:27 AM ^
The OSU pass defense ranks in the 100's in the NCAA - only eight teams gave up more passing yards. They are not good either.
December 30th, 2013 at 10:01 PM ^
Borges' O has gone two games against them without scoring a TD. That didn't happen once during RR's tenure.But that's not really a fair comparison, because MSU is better defensively now than they were then. Their 2008 and 2009 defenses were just average, and 2010 was good but not great. They've taken things to the next level the last couple of years. If you want to play this same game, we could note that Borges's offenses have scored a whole lot more against Ohio than RichRod's did.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:58 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 8:59 PM ^
teams like ... Toledo. / s
Go Blue!
December 30th, 2013 at 6:59 PM ^
His offenses were fun & usually good. His defenses were Borges-esque.
December 30th, 2013 at 7:56 PM ^
But I don't recall his offense struggle scoring Td's
In 2008 we scored 23 points against Utah, 16 against Miami (NTM), 17 against Notre Dame, 27 against Wisconsin, 20 against Illinois, 10(!) against Toledo, 17 against Penn State, 21 against MSU, 14 against Northwestern and 7 against OSU. We averaged 20.25 points per game.
Let's throw 2008 out, after all, it was Nick Sheridan/Steven Threet, first year new system, etc.
2009 fared better, as we scored 30+ points in the first 4 contests. Against MSU we managed 20 (including OT), and only 10 against Penn State. We scored 13 against Illinois, 24 against Wisconsin, and only 10 against OSU.
And in 2010, we managed 17 against MSU, 28 against Iowa, 27 against Purdue, 28 against Wisconsin, 7 against OSU, and 14 against Mississippi State.
The offenses were good against far inferior teams, but when matched with a good opponent, RRs offenses frequently stalled.
They failed to produce more than 4 scores in 21 out of 37 games [including defensive scores, so that's highly optimistic].
December 30th, 2013 at 8:37 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 8:56 PM ^
In general, it seemed like Rich Rod's teams peaked in September and then got worse as the year went on.
December 30th, 2013 at 10:32 PM ^
...and then they fell apart??? It all sounds so oddly familiar...
December 30th, 2013 at 11:07 PM ^
This year unfolded a lot like a Rich Rod season, which is indeed disturbing. But I would not say that about 2011 or 2012.
December 31st, 2013 at 7:45 AM ^
2008: 31 touchdowns
2009: 46 touchdowns
2010: 59 touchdowns
2011: 56 touchdowns
2012: 48 touchdowns
2013: 52 touchdowns
In Rodriguez's years, we averaged 45.3 touchdowns per season.
In Hoke's years, we've averaged 52 touchdowns per season.
Also, I don't even need to get into the statistics to tell you that the defense is in significantly better shape.
Your memory is poor.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:54 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:55 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:05 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:07 PM ^
And let Hart light a fire under these guys. He would make sure the pilot is lit and these kids wanted hit someone. The team seems to take on the personality of their coach and Hoke is WAAAYYYY too laid back.
December 30th, 2013 at 7:22 PM ^
Not only laid back, but thus far Hoke has not proven he has the mental capability of an elite head coach.
Listening to Beilien's radio show tonight is such a stark contrast from anything I've ever heard Hoke say, be it in a press conference, in a private rotary club type setting, at a coaching convention, or otherwise.
Beilien could recite off the top of his head how many free throw attempts Stauskas has had this year, and noted that it was more than Burke had at this time last year.
That little nugget right there, however miniscule, just shows that Beilien knows the X's and O's, is up to date on relevant metrics, and can disect the critical aspects of the game.
It is nothing like "We did some things, executed, heard football being played."
Like it or not, you need to be more than a figure head to be a Head Coach at a school like this. You need to be able to think critically, solve problems and truly analyze every nook and cranny of the game.
Chip Kelly was/is amazing at this. And it's not a surprise how successful he's been in the NFL.
December 30th, 2013 at 7:35 PM ^