Harbaugh and Warde to meet today.

Submitted by GoBlueSimon on December 17th, 2020 at 4:51 PM

https://twitter.com/detnews_sports/status/1339685437875638274

rob f

December 17th, 2020 at 5:29 PM ^

I like that Simon says "thank you".

But since you tried twice to no avail, I'll teach you how.

It's simple, Simon:

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jblaze

December 17th, 2020 at 4:56 PM ^

My WAG is that Harbaugh is staying and they are discussing the budget for replacement coaches (will hire them soon and wait until the contracts expire). 

bluebyyou

December 17th, 2020 at 5:29 PM ^

While driving by the Stadium today, I noticed several large trucks carrying Coca Cola parked nearby.  Shades of Hoke's last year?

People will only take mediocrity for so long and with the poor results this year, the continuing problems with personnel shortages at key positions and with Covid likely still around to some extent, it may be easy to get a seat at next year's games.

UMxWolverines

December 17th, 2020 at 6:24 PM ^

Not really ruined, but definitely not really making them better players from when they enter the program to when they leave. 

Gary and Ruiz were both first round picks and were never more than just good here. 

DPJ barely had more receptions in 3 years as Braylon had total in 2004. Nico never eclipsed 40 receptions in a season. How is that possible for a receiver going in the first or second round?

MJ14

December 17th, 2020 at 7:36 PM ^

Ruiz was crazy good at Michigan. You’re an angry fan and usually I let you say whatever you want. But one thing I’ve learned about you is that you don’t actually understand the game of football in any decent capacity. Ruiz was elite at Michigan. Hence the reason a center was drafted in the 1st round. DPJ never put in the work to get any better, but that’s all of my thoughts on that. Should the coaches force guys to work more at their craft? How much more should they do in the time limits given? DPJ walked on campus expecting to have 1,000 seasons every year just by stepping on the field. He never put in any extra work and he came in very rough at route running. 
 

Nico won’t be drafted in the 1st two rounds. So I guess that covers all of that. Michigan has not done as well as they should have with Harbaugh. I’m not saying he should stick around but I will say that you are always negative and it’s the worst because you don’t actually understand football. 

UMxWolverines

December 17th, 2020 at 9:14 PM ^

Someone who is 2nd team all Big Ten is not "elite"...sorry. That is reserved for All Americans or at least All Big Ten. David Molk was an elite center. 

Apparently you've forgotten what elite looks like because it's been so long since we've had any real elite player. 

I don't understand football? I've been saying Harbaugh is going to fail here for the last 3 years and been told how wrong I am countless times...except my predictions have actually come true while all you're left with is more hopes and dreams about Harbaugh that will never come true. 

MJ14

December 17th, 2020 at 11:09 PM ^

Again you don’t understand football. I don’t need the All Big Ten list to tell me who is elite and who isn’t. Nor did the Saints. I hate to be mean to other Michigan fans, but you are always negative and you don’t actually understand what you are talking about. I didn’t disagree that Harbaugh has underperformed. So you predicted that 3 years ago. Woohoo. We’ll call you lucky. Because I promise you didn’t guess that based on your vast knowledge. Obviously some of Harbaugh’s issues that came up this season have been ongoing issues, like tempo and clock management. Some of that is easy to see. It doesn’t mean that you understand football. I’m glad you’re so happy that you were right about Harbaugh’s tenure so far.

Seems like you enjoy that you were “right” more than you do Michigan’s success. What do they say about a broken clock? I’m sure you’re a true fan though!! You just expect a championship every year or you’ll bash the players because that’s just what we should expect. Championship or bust and if it’s bust run your mouth about players and a game you don’t understand. 

UMxWolverines

December 18th, 2020 at 8:25 AM ^

Where did I bash the players? I'm on the players side...the Saints obviously saw something in Ruiz that we never really saw here. That's on the coaches for not getting the most out of the players. We had an offensive line with 4 players drafted last year and it was never more than just okay to good. Certainly not anything like the road graders Lloyd Carr had. Tell me since I don't know football why that is? 

1WhoStayed

December 17th, 2020 at 7:47 PM ^

Wow, you really are a negative Nancy. Some players got much better at M than what was expected. And some didn’t live up to the RECRUITING HYPE. It’s ridiculous to pit all of that on their coaches. Some? Ok. But you can’t help but get better if you out in the EFFORT. Bitch about play calling and I’m with you. Bitch about “player development” and you sound ignorant.

Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

azee2890

December 18th, 2020 at 9:42 AM ^

It's cherry picking data points to produce a flimsy argument. For every DPJ who had an underwhelming career based on recruiting projections, you have a Josh Uche or Kwity Paye, who greatly out perform their recruiting rankings and develop into top NFL prospects. 

This is what people talk about when they are referencing some fan's propensity to focus only on the negative aspects of the team. You can't sit there and say the staff suck at developing players because one player didn't live up to the hype of their HS career and ignore that a less hyped player turned into an NFL player. 

If Harbaugh had an issue with putting guys in the league then the player development argument would be valid. But that really hasn't been the case (see data point above). You really think all the players that are doing well in the NFL, Ruiz, Onwenu, Wino, Uche etc would all have made it to where they are regardless of who coached them? Doubt it. 

Take a look at all the 5* players that OSU and Bama have signed and see what percentage of them lived up to their recruiting status or not. I'd be willing to bet a decent amount of them had careers like DPJ and Gary. 

switch26

December 17th, 2020 at 5:53 PM ^

We weren't 29 points worse than OSU,  maybe if shea doesn't fumble a fucking snap, maybe if DPJ doesn't drop a gimme touchdown we go into half down 2 pts or whatever the score was..

The coaches can only practice snapping the fucking football with shea only so much before he is a lost cause

 

 

blue in dc

December 17th, 2020 at 6:45 PM ^

In the 8 years from 2000 to 2008, Michigan finished inside the top ten 3 times and was only outside the top 20 once.    Our worse loss to Ohio State was by 16 points and we had four losses by less than a touch down.

In the 6 years that Harbaugh has been coach, Michigan never finished inside the top 10 (we finished 10th once) and we finished outside the top twenty twice.   Under Harbaugh, we’ve lost by less than a touchdown once, and we’ve lost by more than 20 points three times with the worst loss being by 29 points, twice.   

Not sure those mediocrities are really the same.

JFW

December 18th, 2020 at 6:51 AM ^

It’s the pesky numbers Harbaugh haters ignore. As well as Covid, the competitive background, and what we’ve traditionally been. 
 

I find that “unacceptable!” You should “leave for the sake of the team and find a new place to root for” with such “mediocre” fandom.