College Football Live. What If's "RR took the Alabama job in 2006"

Submitted by GunnersApe on

College Football Live as been doing What If's scenarios this week. Monday was "What if Tom Osborne had not gone for two against Miami?". Tuesdays was "What if Rich Rod took the Alabama job in 2006?" I cannot find the video/link but here is the brief summary.

      RR take job in Alabama, Saban stays with the Dolphins. The next year UM and Nebraska jobs come open and since Saban has ties with the Big Ten he takes the UM job over Nebraska. Alabama has some spread guy on team and the transition is smoother, but if "Practice Gate" happens in Alabama it's right on the heels of the text book scandal. Saban runs a pro system and he keeps Mallet and recruits Mark Ingram.

     My take, it would never have happened(as I suspect most of you agree). UM would never take Saban (MSU, plus over signing would never jive at UM). Mallet was gone regardless, leaving Threet or maybe getting T. Savage (Rutgers), M. Ingram would go to MSU over UM (was UM even recruiting him?). Were still a ways away from fall practice and it's something to bitch about. If someone can find the link you’re a gentleman/woman and a scholar.   Sorry for spelling/grammer in advance.

Tim

July 7th, 2010 at 8:28 AM ^

We weren't players in Ingram's recruitment... but who's to say that wouldn't have changed in the (ridiculous) hypothetical world in which Saban becomes the coach here?

NomadicBlue

July 7th, 2010 at 8:29 AM ^

Al Bundy had never scored 4 touchdowns in one game for Polk High School?  He never would have reached his elite status as a shoe salesman - that would have been tragic. 

GunnersApe

July 7th, 2010 at 1:43 PM ^

Al bested Bubba Smith (Ex Spartan) when he was a securtiy guard for Polk High when he got fired from selling shoes (some say his knee was down). The city championship trophy was stolen and Al found it to be taken by Spare Tire (Bubba) and they had an epic goal line stand in the hallway and Al was victorious. Sparty losses on TV shows too. Hail Bundy

BlockM

July 7th, 2010 at 8:30 AM ^

Well, things would have been different. To say much beyond that is just ridiculous speculation. For all we know, RR taking the Alabama job would have led to the end of the world.

willywill9

July 7th, 2010 at 8:36 AM ^

You're right it is the off-season and it is sometimes interesting to play the hypothetical game.  Saban to Michigan is a very weird (albeit unlikely) thought.

If RR went to Alabama though, there wouldn't have been a practice gate at all.  No one in Alabama reads (the Detroit Freep.)

Monocle Smile

July 7th, 2010 at 9:14 AM ^

I immediately thought, "Why would Practicegate not happen if RR went to Alabama? Didn't we already set this up for failure starting in 2007?"

Then I remembered that the Freep launched a jihad for no reason other than to look like the world's worst vigilante. A jihad they would likely never have launched against Saban.

Tater

July 7th, 2010 at 10:57 AM ^

Ingram is talented, but he has definitely benefitted from being in the right place at the right time.  For example, does anyone really think Ingram would have won a Heisman at MSU last year if he had decided to follow in his father's footsteps?  I think he would have been just another decent player at MSU and wouldn't have even been mentioned as a Heisman candidate.

I don't know if that makes him "overrated" or not, but I definitely think his choice of schools had a lot to do with the perception of his talent level.

aaamichfan

July 7th, 2010 at 9:11 AM ^

Coach Rod probably wouldn't have been sued over the failed Real Estate deal if he took the Alabama job. If he was, the local headline would have read something like, "Even Coach Rodriguez Isn't Immune to Tough Economy".

On a side note, I think we should put an end to the "Mallett was gone regardless" meme. I know this arose as a defense to the "Dick Rod ran Mallett off!" mouthbreather blather, but neither is accurate.

wigeon

July 7th, 2010 at 9:32 AM ^

I laid there in bed sipping coffee, and the whole thing prompted me to shut the t.v. off and take a dump.

Not in bed, of course.  

MGoShoe

July 7th, 2010 at 9:42 AM ^

...and my reaction was: Damn the WWL is desparate to stir up controversey and RichRod is such a convenient target for ridicule. If Saban had been made the Michigan coach he would have pushed the envelope in some fashion and some transferred player(s) would have gladly talked crap to Rosenberg and Snyder in response to whatever rumored impropriety someone from inside the athletic department had leaked to them. As a result, some Jihad-like expose would have broken this summer. Why is this so? Because the reason for the Freep Jihad was not an honest desire to unmask the perfidy of big time college football, it was to bring new revenue to the Freep by creating a sensational story that would drive page views and increase subscriptions.

Bill in Birmingham

July 7th, 2010 at 9:56 AM ^

Well, for one thing, you can bet the Birmingham News would not have made a big stink about RR overworking his poor players. Rosenberg/Sharp would not be employed long pulling that crap on Alabama. (Not that the News' editors would have let them. Their circulation would have been cut in half the week after the articles came out.)

Don

July 7th, 2010 at 10:14 AM ^

Don Canham had informally approached Paterno about taking the UM position, but since he'd just taken the PSU job he was unwilling to leave for Michigan.

After that is chewed on, I wonder how things would have turned out if that asteroid hadn't slammed into the Earth 65 million years ago. Would dinosaurs ever have invented football?

bluebyyou

July 7th, 2010 at 10:26 AM ^

What is the date of the first practice?  I can't take too many more "what if" threads...seems like the longest summer I can remember.

Mr. Robot

July 7th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^

If Nick Saban was our coach, we probably would have scored Mark Ingram. He went to Alabama because of Saban, who had an impact in his father's playing career. Much as it would have hurt initially for the Ingrams to see their son play at UM, it probably would have happened.

That being said, that is literally the only thing that might have come to pass, meaning that Nick Saban would never have become our coach in the first place. I could make a laundry list of reasons for that, most of which result in him never even being offered the job, but I don't think they need to be said.

M-Wolverine

July 7th, 2010 at 10:40 AM ^

1. Saban NEVER becomes the head coach at Michigan. Never. Forget about it.  If people were unsure about Les Miles, the same people HATED Saban.  Dirty SOB as far as they're concerned. That would have gotten squashed fast.  He might have headed to Nebraska.

2. It's all speculation, but since that's what it's about....there's no guarantee Mallett doesn't stay to play for a coach of Saban's stature, if what never could happen happened. No guarantee he stays either. Ingram is more likely.  Let's see, he can play for the coach with family connects he committed with...AND stay home?  Just because we weren't recruiting him, doesn't mean Saban wouldn't have.  I mean, he's wasn't at Alabama before, and I'm sure they were recruiting Ingram then, but Nick still got him.

3. And Rich?  No one is wondering down south if he needs to put up a really good season to keep his job at Alabama.  Because if he had the 2 seasons he's had here, down there, he'd really know what heat is like. Because they wouldn't take into account injuries, or recruiting classes, or any of that other stuff.  It'd be win now, or we'll find someone who can.

Trauber19

July 7th, 2010 at 11:06 AM ^

1) Kapowski.

2) ESPN is retarded because Michigan would never hire a former Spartan coach.  I think I'd rather die than see Nick Saban in the Maize and Blue.

3) As mentioned above me...Les Miles is probably the man hired...certainly before d-bag Saban.

BigBlue02

July 7th, 2010 at 12:50 PM ^

Didn't Miles sleep with someone's wife? I want to say Moeller, but I don't remember what the rumor was. It was all very "90210ish" though. I don't think he was coming here regardless of the circumstances.

bronxblue

July 7th, 2010 at 12:40 PM ^

If RR goes to Alabama, he would probably recruit like a normal human being at first, get vilified for not returning Alabama to its glory days fast enough, then devolve into the typical SEC coach - over-recruiting and providing "benefits" to nab the best kids available.  Over time, his system (infused with a steady stream of 4* and 5* playmakers) takes off, and he dominates SEC along with Florida.  if he decides not to over-recruit, though, and struggles in his first year or two, he is out the door and probably an OC at a power team for a year or two.

Saban going to UM would be followed by the ground in Michigan Stadium splitting in half, demons pouring out to enslave man and destroy humanity as we know it.  The sky is filled with ash blotting out the sun, society as we know it crumbles, and dogs and cats begin to cohabitate peacefully.  Seeing all the mayhem and destruction his signing has caused, Saban voids his contract and runs off to coach the Seattle Seahawks, telling the huddled masses shivering under overpasses that Seattle is a dream job and one he will never leave.