Borges interview on dead horse

What dahblue was all season, in the post-season. You're both smart posters, and make good points, and aren't drifting into Dudeness like trolling.....but every post is of such a one track mind, "bash Rich" vs. "defend all things Rich", that it's kinda predictable.

And to your point, maybe the players didn't want to work for or with a guy who basically was saying him being successful in 3 or 4 years was more important than them being successful now. And if they didn't like it, they could leave. If you want someone to run through a wall for you, you have to show them that you have their back.

You're just creating straw men.   Borges has said he'll run shotgun, and has. But the company line has been MOAR shotgun...like all the time. In other words, run a spread offense. Which he hasn't.  And no one has ever really said Rich should have run MANBALL either. Just do what people expect out of Borges, and run a hybrid, and institute stuff gradually, rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater and say "screw it, they suck....the system is more important than the players...who cares if the school or kids could barely squeeze they're way into the bowl game....that may prevent me from winning 7 games in year 3....".  It'd have been better for his career chances too, because spending a year ending every streak and putting up the worst record most people alive can remember didn't give him a lot of slack. And if NOT instituting it all immediately (for a player in Denard he wouldn't have for a year, and not remotely ready for another year) would cause him to not win a couple more games in year 3...well, he was doomed anyway.

I did kind of melt down after MSU...but that was because we lost to Sparty again, and at home.  I was kinda back on the bandwagon until PSU. Because they were not good. That shook my confidence. But I liked Rich, I was rooting for him. And I even held out hopes that a nice bowl game could make it all bearable. But after that, I just didn't think he could succeed here anymore. Because forget recruiting like Hoke, it would have been hell for Rich for 12 more months of hot seat...and recruits would know it.  He'd have had to win 10 games this year to quell it, and that wouldn't have been fair. No one wants to get fired, but it may have been as merciful for him as it was for the program. Both have a better chance of having success apart after the last 3 years. If they had gone differently, it could have worked though.

exactly defended the defensive side of the ball under RR in this thread or said that RR won enough games to keep his job. There was essentially no question what had to be done in after the bowl game.  However that doesn't mean, that the choice to run the style he did in the first year, was a signficant reason why he didn't win enough games or was the wrong decision. At most that team in 2007 could have won 2 or 3 (personally I think 3 is probally stretching it) more games, since the defense was also poor that year as well.  Who is say that they would have not of lost 2 or 3 additional games the following two years, due to the offense being a year behind. That would have left RR in the same position win total wise in that scenerio.

RR's had the offense on track to be just as explosive as his WVU's offenses. He would of won enough games to keep his job, had the defense and special teams not of been so poor.