Wednesday Presser 9-10-14: Brady Hoke Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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News bullets and other items

  • We’re not going to talk about injuries.
  • Kalis and Glasgow are taking snaps at right guard, and Glasgow is also taking snaps at center.
  • Kenny Allen and Matt Wile are competing at kicker.
  • The average number of explosive plays [Ed: defined by Doug Nussmeier as a twelve-yard run or sixteen-yard pass] per game should be nine to ten. Michigan had five against Notre Dame.

Opening remarks:

"As a team I think everybody really came back to work Tuesday. We had a really good practice. Very high tempo. I think the leadership throughout the team is a big part of that, how competitive and hard-working everybody is. We are correcting things that we need to do better. Talked a lot about fundamentals and techniques. Talked a lot about and worked on a lot of things that you have to do when you talk about ball security and all those things to be successful, and the guys went at it and we had a very competitive, very good practice, like I said. We’re looking forward to Saturday. Number one, we get to play at home. We get to play at the greatest stadium in this country in front of our fans and that’s something we always look forward to. We have the next three weeks to do that. The energy and support is something that we really embrace."


Brady, you said you made corrections. Were they small corrections or were they glaring things?
"Yeah, there's a lot of things that were small but in the big picture those small things can add up. We thought pad level-wise we played pretty well but we've got to be more demanding on finishing some things from both sides of the ball."


As far as the offensive line, do you anticipate making any changes? Do you see a need for it?
"I think right now, I think we like the group we have. I think you asked the other day, [and] it's still highly competitive. Kyle's playing right guard and so is Graham [Ed: MGoD'ohThereGoesMyQuestion]. Graham's taking some snaps at center so the rest of it's been pretty much how it is but it's been really competitive."


Is it important at this point to keep those guys together and let them grow even if they are making mistakes?
"Well, they're not making many mistakes. That's number one. When you look at the tape, those guys up front did a pretty good job. So to answer your question, yeah, to have them together would be awesome. Now, you still got to have some contingencies if somebody goes down, somebody gets hurt. Mags [Ed: Erik Magnuson, but I’m guessing you knew that] is playing a little bit of left tackle at times so all those things are still part of it."

[After THE JUMP: Miami (NTM) scouting report, countering three-step drops, and Hoke’s opinions on the criticism of players]


So are there holes that the running backs missed?
"I'm not going to blame it on the running backs. Believe me, the guys up front, they weren't perfect but you can't put it all on them."


In terms of the frustration level with your team, once the second field goal was missed it seemed like there were a lot more glaring issues from there, especially in the second half compared to earlier in the game. Is there a mental component there?
"I think there's always a mental side of a football game and how you go about it. The thing I will tell you, and this is from the players, they felt like they were together in it the whole time."


Do you anticipate maybe a change in kicker? You said that Kenny [Allen] and Matt [Wile]…
"They’re competing like heck this week."


The press coverage issues: is part of it just getting hands on a guy at the line of scrimmage?
"Yeah, being more physical there. Sliding your feet a little bit more. Again, fundamentally I think some guys reacted real well, some guys didn't react as well as you'd like them to but you’ve seen them do it so you've got confidence in them."


Not asking specific injury questions, but Peppers, Taylor, Funchess: do you expect they'll play?
"We’re not talking about injuries."


Did Jabrill and Raymon practice this week?
"They were here… on the practice field. We're not talking about injuries."


How would you evaluate the safety play after two games?
"I think from that standpoint Wilson's been very solid, very good. Jeremy [Clark] has shown very good signs in there. Delano getting back, again, kind of puts a little more competition up there and [we] kind of like what Delano's doing."


After a game like Saturday, can you talk about keeping the outside noise on the outside for both the coaching staff and the kids?
"You know, I don't worry about myself or the staff because people are going to have opinions and think what they want. You're going to have opinions, and that's fine but when your quarterback takes some criticism that might be unjust because of things that transpired, I guess that's the way we are in society now but at the same time I don't know if that's called for."

What was unjust in terms of what they were saying?
"Well, what would you think. He's a kid. He's not a professional athlete."

Are there things that people aren’t seeing that he did well in that game?
"I think there's a lot of things he did well. Like I said the other day, he made some great throws in there. He checked us to the right plays. Was he perfect? No. He wasn't 100%. Do we want to be perfect? Yes."
Did he make any progress from the Appalachian State game to that game that you can see?
"Well yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean, he’s our quarterback. Now, he’s going to prove it every week. He’s proved it [with] how he’s come to practice and how he’s learned.”

You mentioned Devin’s your quarterback and he’s got to continue to prove it. Is Shane [Morris] ready? Is he up to speed with all this?

“Yeah, we’re confident in him. We’re very confident in him.”

So if Devin does slip you’re confident…

“Well, it’s like every other position, right? If Willie Henry doesn’t play great at three [technique] Wormley’s going to be in there or Godin’s going to be in there.”

But you feel like Shane has…

“Progressed?”

Yeah, and grasped this offense?

“Yeah, I think so.”

It was said the other day with Devin why maybe there were some issues was that it was the second game in a new system. How long, generally, do you think it takes for a fifth-year senior to adapt?

“Well, I think the longer you can have a guy within your philosophy, your program, either offensively or defensively I think the more there’s a comfort level. I think there’s more where they feel better and more confident and maybe seeing what he’s seeing on the field.”

Are there things you see with Miami’s [Andrew] Hendrix, and even Notre Dame, [where they] seem to run more and they’re obviously throwing a lot these last couple games?

“They’re certainly throwing the ball a ton and he’s very- I don’t have his percentage in front of me but he’s pretty doggone accurate. You’re going to see a lot of quick throws. They do a good job. It reminds me a little bit more of the offense at Notre Dame with [Tommy] Rees as far as six man protections, trying three man route schemes, getting the ball out of his hands quickly. The running game consists mostly of some zone. He’s not running [all the time]. Will he run it? Yes, but more like Tommy Rees than Everett Golson.”

You talk about him getting it out quick. How are you evaluating the pass rush if you can’t seem to get any off of the drop?

“Well, I think there’s some things that we’ve got to do. When you feel the three-step [drop] you’ve got to be able to get your hands up. We’ve been pretty good, especially in fall camp, of knocking some balls down and that’s one thing you emphasize. You emphasize trying to knock a hole in the line of scrimmage. A lot of slide protection. Obviously when you play man and it’s those third-and-threes and you’re going to play tight man you’ve got to play tight man.”

Some guys are dinged up at corner but elsewhere are looking at other guys this week [and] giving them more of a look after the struggles last week or are you still sticking…

“You talking about every position?

At corner.

“Well, I think with Strib[ling] we’ve always- every week he’s running with the twos sometimes, he’s running with the ones sometimes. I’m talking about practice and what we’re getting done. So if you’ve got Stribling and Terry Richardson, Jourdan Lewis, who played a little more than the other two, I don’t know if that changes what our beliefs are. Again, I’ll go back, it’s competitive at every position.”

Do you give a guy like Terry more of a look this week given that other guys struggled?

“Well, I think he’s played a lot more. He’s had more reps.”

This week?

“I would say so. But look, we’ve only practiced once.”

Doug [Nussmeier] talked a lot about explosive plays. Are there going to be games where you anticipate going downfield a lot more?

“Say that again.”

Are there going to be games where you anticipate more of a longball? Going downfield, taking more shots…

“Well, when we talk about explosive plays that’s part of it. You know, obviously the vertical passing game or a guy making something happen off of a seven yard route but in the running game, too. I think both. I think we had seventeen the first week [and] we had five last week. The number usually you want to average [is] about nine to ten of those, so we’ve got to hit that and again, there’s a lot that goes into it from the passing game: route running, protection, getting off press, getting off bump, the quarterback, the progression, all that. And the same thing in the running game and the receivers down the field and one thing I can tell you is that the receivers that we have here, they enjoy being physical.”

Have you guys emphasized getting off to a fast start this week to kind of put last week behind you?

“I don’t know that we’ve emphasized that. I think what we’ve emphasized is going back to- this has been, and I’m going to say it one more time and I’ll probably say it more, but it’s been an unbelievably hard working group of guys. Coming out to a fast start? Yeah, we’d love to do it. We have an opponent who’s going to have something to say about that, too.”

Comments

PurpleStuff

September 10th, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^

When media members asked about Mitch McGary's health throughout last season, I don't remember Beilein storming off like Ryan Leaf yelling "I don't want to talk about it!"

Seemed to work out okay.  Honestly answering straightforward questions didn't seem to hinder the team in any way.  Odd.

PurpleStuff

September 10th, 2014 at 7:07 PM ^

It has no effect at all.  Yet our currently unsuccessful football coach acts like he's protecting the family jewels with every bit of information about the program.  Our currently super successful basketball coach and other successful football coaches take a different approach because when there is no benefit to be had either way, being honest, open, and fan friendly makes the most sense.

Hoke takes the same approach with X's and O's and strategy questions.  Beilein will break things down in detail without any fear that opposing coaches will steal his precious, yet Hoke takes a condescending attitude and remains vague or evasive whenever he's asked a substantive question (by those guys like Brian who try to "play coach").  When you lose 31-0 in year 4, that vagueness begins to look like cluelessness to outside observers.  Which ain't the best PR strategy to have.

Reader71

September 10th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^

There is an argument for hiding injuries to have some value in football that is doesn't have in basketball. There are more players on the field, there are more players on the team, etc. If McGary is out, you know Horford is gonna be in for more minutes. That's not always the case in football. Whatever. If there is any value, it's minimal. And although I have a general disdain for the press and prefer to hear nothing at all about the program, I do agree that this is probably not the best tact for Hoke to take under the current climate. But, he's got his own principles and he will stick to them. That's only about injuries, BTW. If anyone expects him to ever say a bad word about a player or his performance, you wont get it. If you ever expect to hear anything technical and not part of the public domain, so to speak, you wont get it.

Dontfakeitfunk

September 11th, 2014 at 9:55 PM ^

Wait, did you just make the argument that hiding an injury in a sport (Bball) where only 5 players are on the court at one time is not as advantageous as hiding it in a sport where there are 22 starters? And the example of preseason All American Mitch McGary's injury not mattering to an opposing teams strategy to top it off...Wow

MGlobules

September 10th, 2014 at 6:58 PM ^

dog in the hunt. You could argue that he's protecting the kids, that it's no one's business, that keeping opponents off guard has some (has to be fairly limited) value. You can also argue for simple. . . openness. But simply stonewalling? Not so sure this works in Hoke's favor. It tends to feed speculation that there is something seriously wrong with Peppers, no? 

I'd even be in favor of a little misdirection over "we're not going to talk about it." And I have a hard time seeing what it has gained the program so far this year. 

UMForLife

September 10th, 2014 at 7:42 PM ^

I hate to be argumentative, but Carrol is not best role model. Dude hid everything else, but the injury report. And to be fair, his team did not need any advantages. They were just good. We need every advantage we can get. I wish we can tell them every play ahead of time and tell them to stop it if they can. It is what it is.

Bando Calrissian

September 10th, 2014 at 5:56 PM ^

It's absolutely astonishing how he manages to spend so much time saying so little of actual substance. There's being combative with the press, there's being evasive, there's being Fort Schembechler-y, and then there's absolutely wasting people's time. This is decidedly the latter category.

wahooverine

September 10th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^

Then why would you listen or read it at all?  What could you possibly hope to gain from a coach's press conference?  I don't care about a coach's eloquence or how much information he reveals.  Only the results on the field. Obviously those need to improve.  Frankly I'd rather all pressers be canceled so the coaches have more time for preparaton and gameplanning.

 

TIMMMAAY

September 10th, 2014 at 7:01 PM ^

What could you possibly hope to gain from a coach's press conference? 

Well, I can't speak for others, but I had hoped to maybe glean some small nugget of info about Raymon Taylor. Also Peppers. And Morgan. You know, members of the team that we still know nothing about why they're not on the field. 

Did they practice? Welll, yeah, they were in the building...

 

maizenbluenc

September 10th, 2014 at 9:32 PM ^

press conferences. He said absolutely nothing as well, except calling out the effort of some unsing player in prior games. After a while I decided it was a waste of time, but then I figured the entertainment value of listening for Carr to make some poor reporter look really dumb.

There is not real entertainment value in Hoke's conferences - the bullets are all you really need.

FWIW - Miller is staying in. Glasgow is practicing at Center as a backup.

west2

September 10th, 2014 at 6:03 PM ^

The schedule is starting out with M playing a bad team then a good team then a bad team then a good team.  This week's opponent is 0-2 coming off a loss to Eastern Kentucky.    There should be no need to play banged up players as M should be able to handle this team easily.  Next week is Utah and they look good this year although they havent been tested by a ranked opponent yet.  But it makes sense to get kids ready for Utah and the BgTn schedule that follows.  

Leonhall

September 10th, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^

whole Ft. Schembechler thing, thanks to RR and being open and what not, but I guess I don't see why he doesn't just say Jabrill and Raymon are out, its pretty damn clear they aren't playing, it's annoying. Also, I hope Devin plays better, it sucks its another new system, just still see same problems, holding the ball too long, panicky feet, hesitant throws, hesitant runs, poor throwing mechanics off back of leg...1000% difference between his confidence/mechanics and Golson's...I just wonder how long it is until Shane is given an opportunity.

Blue X2

September 10th, 2014 at 6:05 PM ^

I really struggle with the lack of accountability that Hoke always talks about.

We completely sucked in SB, but here is what we have heard this week from the coaches:  The OL did a good job, the DL did a good job, the corners played well, Devin made a lot of good decisions, the RB should not be blamed, the team was well prepared, the team as close as any team, the team has great leadership. 

So why did we suck?  we need to clean up our technique.  Oh, come on.  That is really the problem that caused us to be shut out for the first time in 30 years? 

I heard accountabilty from Nuss (I did not do a good job).   I heard some from Mattison (I should have been more prepared for what ND did).  Nothing else.

As fans we are told if we criticize the program and don't "believe" we are not real fans.  My PSD and $75 tickets demonstrate my commitment and belief. 

I want to see the accountability that is talked about.  Brady can you give us some indication that you have any idea why we got smoked and have any plan to fix it.  Then I will "believe". 
 

Reader71

September 10th, 2014 at 7:09 PM ^

Yeah I've said this before. Fans are important, of course. But he has to run a football program day-to-day, and the fans are not a concern in that process. They just aren't. In the clearest possible terms, he has much bigger fish to fry.

Reader71

September 10th, 2014 at 7:20 PM ^

Yeah, either way works, because press relations is a tiny miniscule part of a program (particularly when you are winning). For every Carrol, there is a Belichick. If you're ornery and winning, its fine (2011). When you're losing, its bad (now). If you're open and winning, its fine (Carrol). When you're losing, its bad (Coach Rod).

TIMMMAAY

September 10th, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^

I'll say that even through the losing, I appreciated some of the open nature Rich Rodriguez brought with him. I just think he went too far for his own good given the circumstances surrounding his tenure here. Maybe I'm being petulant, but I think Hoke is pretty tone deaf in regards to his own PR blunders. There have been quite a few, but he had more good will built up from his first season here than RR ever had, which is slightly ironic. 

Reader71

September 10th, 2014 at 8:17 PM ^

Coach Rod, in my opinion, could have saved himself a lot of aggravation if he tightened up a bit. If nothing else, he could have shielded himself from us good old boys. We couldn't rightfully complained about him running a tight ship, having been part of one ourselves. But again, that wasn't what was important. The losing was a killer.

Jon06

September 10th, 2014 at 6:08 PM ^

Can you ask some pointed questions about Hoke himself? Here are some questions I'd like answered:

Why won't you discuss injuries? Is it about the players' privacy or to get an advantage or for some other reason?

Suppose that true Michigan fans believe strongly that the players have put in the work, but are losing faith in the ability of your coaching staff to make that pay off. Why should we continue to believe in the coaching staff? 

I'm not convinced Hoke or the staff need to go, but I think the way he's dodging questions in press conferences is bullshit. MGoCall him on it, please.

Reader71

September 10th, 2014 at 7:00 PM ^

The reporter who pucks a fight like that will have to have some huge balls. Most don't. Even Drew Sharp, a notorious anti-UM troll, soft peddles his questions and only twists the answers to his purpose later. And those questions won't be answered anyways.

Reader71

September 10th, 2014 at 11:45 PM ^

Suppose that true Michigan fans believe strongly that the players have put in the work, but are losing faith in the ability of your coaching staff to make that pay off. Why should we continue to believe in the coaching staff?

I guess you consider that asking Home to explain himself. I consider that picking a fight.

Not only that, but like I said, the question wouldn't get answered. If, by some chance, it was, it would be something to the effect oof, "We are working hard to represent Michigan. If fans want to support the staff, we would love that. If not, we can deal with that."

The answer would be correct in all ways and not at all offensive to the neutral observer. But you guys would freak the fuck out. Its a lose/lose for the coach, which is why they wouldn't answer. No coach would. What kind of self-respecting professional in any field would answer a question like that about their job? This whole thing is a silly exercise.

Erik_in_Dayton

September 10th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^

But his press conferences are not one of the reasons for this.  Most of us would be happy if he were winning games but using his press conferences to discuss his ideas about alchemy.

UAUM

September 10th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^

Get irritated that they don't know the extent of a player's injury or that Hoke plays it close to the chest?

Seriously, what about that specifically is so bad?

All I care about is that we win.

M-Dog

September 10th, 2014 at 7:15 PM ^

And when you win, your mannerisms are all cast in a positive light.  But when you lose, those same things people found charming at 11-1 they now find irritating.

Where Brady Hoke was "folksy" and a "player's coach" at 11-1, he's now being described as "clueless" and "lacking fire and discipline" at 7-6.

Believe it or not, John Cooper, John L. Smith, Charlie Weis, . . . .all those guys were looked at as inspiring personalities at first.  Until they started losing.  Then they became fools.

 

 

alum96

September 10th, 2014 at 7:52 PM ^

Agree. 

But would not put Cooper in the same class as JLS and CW.  Cooper won big at OSU for a 6-7 year period aside from the UM game.  A few  years he'd roll into that  game with 0 or 1 loss and get punked by a 3-4 loss UM team.  He did solid at his other stops such as ASU and Tulsa.  I thought he was a very solid coach with one major weakness which was us.

JLS was a buffoon.  From all accounts he didnt want to leave Louisville so he gave the MSU admin a ridiculous dollar amount for him and his staff (ridiculous in his mind) thinking MSU would never match it.  They did.  The rest is history.  Weiss has never been a big winner as a HC other than 1 (?) 2 years.  Unfortunately not that different from Hoke.