Wednesday Presser 9-10-14: Brady Hoke Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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News bullets and other items

  • We’re not going to talk about injuries.
  • Kalis and Glasgow are taking snaps at right guard, and Glasgow is also taking snaps at center.
  • Kenny Allen and Matt Wile are competing at kicker.
  • The average number of explosive plays [Ed: defined by Doug Nussmeier as a twelve-yard run or sixteen-yard pass] per game should be nine to ten. Michigan had five against Notre Dame.

Opening remarks:

"As a team I think everybody really came back to work Tuesday. We had a really good practice. Very high tempo. I think the leadership throughout the team is a big part of that, how competitive and hard-working everybody is. We are correcting things that we need to do better. Talked a lot about fundamentals and techniques. Talked a lot about and worked on a lot of things that you have to do when you talk about ball security and all those things to be successful, and the guys went at it and we had a very competitive, very good practice, like I said. We’re looking forward to Saturday. Number one, we get to play at home. We get to play at the greatest stadium in this country in front of our fans and that’s something we always look forward to. We have the next three weeks to do that. The energy and support is something that we really embrace."


Brady, you said you made corrections. Were they small corrections or were they glaring things?
"Yeah, there's a lot of things that were small but in the big picture those small things can add up. We thought pad level-wise we played pretty well but we've got to be more demanding on finishing some things from both sides of the ball."


As far as the offensive line, do you anticipate making any changes? Do you see a need for it?
"I think right now, I think we like the group we have. I think you asked the other day, [and] it's still highly competitive. Kyle's playing right guard and so is Graham [Ed: MGoD'ohThereGoesMyQuestion]. Graham's taking some snaps at center so the rest of it's been pretty much how it is but it's been really competitive."


Is it important at this point to keep those guys together and let them grow even if they are making mistakes?
"Well, they're not making many mistakes. That's number one. When you look at the tape, those guys up front did a pretty good job. So to answer your question, yeah, to have them together would be awesome. Now, you still got to have some contingencies if somebody goes down, somebody gets hurt. Mags [Ed: Erik Magnuson, but I’m guessing you knew that] is playing a little bit of left tackle at times so all those things are still part of it."

[After THE JUMP: Miami (NTM) scouting report, countering three-step drops, and Hoke’s opinions on the criticism of players]


So are there holes that the running backs missed?
"I'm not going to blame it on the running backs. Believe me, the guys up front, they weren't perfect but you can't put it all on them."


In terms of the frustration level with your team, once the second field goal was missed it seemed like there were a lot more glaring issues from there, especially in the second half compared to earlier in the game. Is there a mental component there?
"I think there's always a mental side of a football game and how you go about it. The thing I will tell you, and this is from the players, they felt like they were together in it the whole time."


Do you anticipate maybe a change in kicker? You said that Kenny [Allen] and Matt [Wile]…
"They’re competing like heck this week."


The press coverage issues: is part of it just getting hands on a guy at the line of scrimmage?
"Yeah, being more physical there. Sliding your feet a little bit more. Again, fundamentally I think some guys reacted real well, some guys didn't react as well as you'd like them to but you’ve seen them do it so you've got confidence in them."


Not asking specific injury questions, but Peppers, Taylor, Funchess: do you expect they'll play?
"We’re not talking about injuries."


Did Jabrill and Raymon practice this week?
"They were here… on the practice field. We're not talking about injuries."


How would you evaluate the safety play after two games?
"I think from that standpoint Wilson's been very solid, very good. Jeremy [Clark] has shown very good signs in there. Delano getting back, again, kind of puts a little more competition up there and [we] kind of like what Delano's doing."


After a game like Saturday, can you talk about keeping the outside noise on the outside for both the coaching staff and the kids?
"You know, I don't worry about myself or the staff because people are going to have opinions and think what they want. You're going to have opinions, and that's fine but when your quarterback takes some criticism that might be unjust because of things that transpired, I guess that's the way we are in society now but at the same time I don't know if that's called for."

What was unjust in terms of what they were saying?
"Well, what would you think. He's a kid. He's not a professional athlete."

Are there things that people aren’t seeing that he did well in that game?
"I think there's a lot of things he did well. Like I said the other day, he made some great throws in there. He checked us to the right plays. Was he perfect? No. He wasn't 100%. Do we want to be perfect? Yes."
Did he make any progress from the Appalachian State game to that game that you can see?
"Well yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean, he’s our quarterback. Now, he’s going to prove it every week. He’s proved it [with] how he’s come to practice and how he’s learned.”

You mentioned Devin’s your quarterback and he’s got to continue to prove it. Is Shane [Morris] ready? Is he up to speed with all this?

“Yeah, we’re confident in him. We’re very confident in him.”

So if Devin does slip you’re confident…

“Well, it’s like every other position, right? If Willie Henry doesn’t play great at three [technique] Wormley’s going to be in there or Godin’s going to be in there.”

But you feel like Shane has…

“Progressed?”

Yeah, and grasped this offense?

“Yeah, I think so.”

It was said the other day with Devin why maybe there were some issues was that it was the second game in a new system. How long, generally, do you think it takes for a fifth-year senior to adapt?

“Well, I think the longer you can have a guy within your philosophy, your program, either offensively or defensively I think the more there’s a comfort level. I think there’s more where they feel better and more confident and maybe seeing what he’s seeing on the field.”

Are there things you see with Miami’s [Andrew] Hendrix, and even Notre Dame, [where they] seem to run more and they’re obviously throwing a lot these last couple games?

“They’re certainly throwing the ball a ton and he’s very- I don’t have his percentage in front of me but he’s pretty doggone accurate. You’re going to see a lot of quick throws. They do a good job. It reminds me a little bit more of the offense at Notre Dame with [Tommy] Rees as far as six man protections, trying three man route schemes, getting the ball out of his hands quickly. The running game consists mostly of some zone. He’s not running [all the time]. Will he run it? Yes, but more like Tommy Rees than Everett Golson.”

You talk about him getting it out quick. How are you evaluating the pass rush if you can’t seem to get any off of the drop?

“Well, I think there’s some things that we’ve got to do. When you feel the three-step [drop] you’ve got to be able to get your hands up. We’ve been pretty good, especially in fall camp, of knocking some balls down and that’s one thing you emphasize. You emphasize trying to knock a hole in the line of scrimmage. A lot of slide protection. Obviously when you play man and it’s those third-and-threes and you’re going to play tight man you’ve got to play tight man.”

Some guys are dinged up at corner but elsewhere are looking at other guys this week [and] giving them more of a look after the struggles last week or are you still sticking…

“You talking about every position?

At corner.

“Well, I think with Strib[ling] we’ve always- every week he’s running with the twos sometimes, he’s running with the ones sometimes. I’m talking about practice and what we’re getting done. So if you’ve got Stribling and Terry Richardson, Jourdan Lewis, who played a little more than the other two, I don’t know if that changes what our beliefs are. Again, I’ll go back, it’s competitive at every position.”

Do you give a guy like Terry more of a look this week given that other guys struggled?

“Well, I think he’s played a lot more. He’s had more reps.”

This week?

“I would say so. But look, we’ve only practiced once.”

Doug [Nussmeier] talked a lot about explosive plays. Are there going to be games where you anticipate going downfield a lot more?

“Say that again.”

Are there going to be games where you anticipate more of a longball? Going downfield, taking more shots…

“Well, when we talk about explosive plays that’s part of it. You know, obviously the vertical passing game or a guy making something happen off of a seven yard route but in the running game, too. I think both. I think we had seventeen the first week [and] we had five last week. The number usually you want to average [is] about nine to ten of those, so we’ve got to hit that and again, there’s a lot that goes into it from the passing game: route running, protection, getting off press, getting off bump, the quarterback, the progression, all that. And the same thing in the running game and the receivers down the field and one thing I can tell you is that the receivers that we have here, they enjoy being physical.”

Have you guys emphasized getting off to a fast start this week to kind of put last week behind you?

“I don’t know that we’ve emphasized that. I think what we’ve emphasized is going back to- this has been, and I’m going to say it one more time and I’ll probably say it more, but it’s been an unbelievably hard working group of guys. Coming out to a fast start? Yeah, we’d love to do it. We have an opponent who’s going to have something to say about that, too.”

Comments

funkywolve

September 11th, 2014 at 11:11 AM ^

His first few years at OSU were a little sluggish but from '93 - '98, OSU was almost a permenant fixture in the Top 10 and in the NC picture a few years.  In that stretch he won a Rose Bowl, a Sugar Bowl and lost in another Sugar Bowl.  His record against UM clouds a number of good things he did at OSU.

wahooverine

September 10th, 2014 at 6:34 PM ^

Yes, but I'll see it on Saturday. Why is it so important as a fan to know this 3 or 4 days early?  As others have mentioned, this is information which helps the opponent gameplan.  If you think injury information concerning starters is not strategically relevent - yes even for this Michigan team - than you are naive. (not you personally wayneand garth). 

 

 

 

Indiana Blue

September 10th, 2014 at 6:18 PM ^

So far this season we have 5 turnovers, 4 INT's and 1 fumble by the QB.  This seems to me to be a pretty narrow ball security issue.  Whatever ... I think we'll see a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers Saturday.  I really hope to see Freddie Canteen get some PT - I think this kid has skills.

Go Blue!

CoverZero

September 10th, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^

Listening to Hoke on ESPN from earlier today:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=11502808

It generally is good to be positive...but he is just way too soft on guys, gives way too much credit to players, like Devin Gardner, who really are not playing up to their potential.  That has to trickle down in to the way that he coaches by not holding them responsible to play up to their talent level.

McSomething

September 11th, 2014 at 1:03 PM ^

"Just because they aren't saying anything in the media doesn't mean they don't recognize the problems, and aren't fixing it behind the scenes." How many times was something like that said a year ago? If this staff was capable of diagnosing, and then rectifying, the issues with this team they would have fixed the shit long before now. There is zero reason to expect anyone to believe Hoke has the first damn clue how to right this ship.

Yeoman

September 12th, 2014 at 2:15 PM ^

...that thinks the 2012 team might have been better than 2011? 2011's record was flattered by a relatively soft BCS bowl and the worst OSU team in living memory. The 2011 schedule only included one team that finished top-25 at Massey; 2012 had six, and four of those were better than anyone in 2011. Three extra losses are about what you'd expect just from the change in the schedule.

Ron Utah

September 10th, 2014 at 6:26 PM ^

With Hoke, you have to really search the quotes to find something, but this was interesting:

You talk about him getting it out quick. How are you evaluating the pass rush if you can’t seem to get any off of the drop?
“Well, I think there’s some things that we’ve got to do. When you feel the three-step [drop] you’ve got to be able to get your hands up. We’ve been pretty good, especially in fall camp, of knocking some balls down and that’s one thing you emphasize. You emphasize trying to knock a hole in the line of scrimmage. A lot of slide protection. Obviously when you play man and it’s those third-and-threes and you’re going to play tight man you’ve got to play tight man.”

This question and answer was pretty good, IMO.  Hoke identified two things we did poorly against ND: tight man coverage (Countess and Hollowell) and a failure to limit Golson's throwing lanes.  Now, I'm not sure how much more the DL could actually have done while still trying to pressure Golson, but we sure did blow a bunch of chances to get off the field by giving up slant routes.

 

PurpleStuff

September 10th, 2014 at 6:44 PM ^

He said we're gonna run the power play.  He said it would be our base play.  Remember when we had to line up in the I against Iowa so we could practice that rugged under-center offense we'd be known for in years to come?  That's why we're so awesome at running that base play of ours now four years later.

Once Gibbons clears up that family problem our kicking woes will probably be solved too.  If we make those kicks and ND keeps committing penalties one their way to the endzone with a pick six the score would only have been 31-6.

All is well!

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wahooverine

September 10th, 2014 at 6:39 PM ^

Exactly.  If Hoke and the other coaches weren't required to conduct weekly pressers, they probably wouldn't.  These are football coaches not press secretiaries.

And honestly what do you expect to hear when the questions are things like "so how important is toughness?"   "How imporant is scoring in the red zone?"   and other inane, ultimately meaningless quesions.

 

 

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MWolverine7

September 10th, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^

I could find a few third graders who could speak better at the podium than Hoke.  Sorry I no longer buy that he's being vague for the purposes of not disclosing too much to the media..he's being vague because all he can talk about is technique and fundamentals...the strategy part of the game is over his head.

CodeBlue82

September 10th, 2014 at 7:11 PM ^

He's right not to talk about injuries. The fact the public (fans, gamblers, opponents) wants to know about personal health information does not justify disclosing it. 

BloomingtonBlue

September 10th, 2014 at 7:44 PM ^

Nick Baumgardner just tweeted out a quote from Hoke where he said he didn't know Golson threw that well. If that doesn't tell us all we need to know about Hoke, I don't know what will. It's his job to know how well he throws so he can relay that to the staff and team. While Hoke worries about people knowing our injuries, he let's far more important information slide by.


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PurpleStuff

September 10th, 2014 at 7:51 PM ^

There is clearly a plan in place.  Sure, some short term sacrifices have to be made by guys like Denard, Molk, Lewan, Schofield, Omameh, etc. but those guys are mostly crappy RichRod recruits anyway.  They don't have that "pro-style" the pro footall teams look for anyway.  Borges has a plan!  We line up under center, we build that toughness, maybe take a few lumps now and in year 4 we'll be a juggernaut.  My guy Al has the ship pointed in the right direction and I've got his back.

Same goes for the defense.  This isn't some fly by night outfit.  We wouldn't just shift course completely after three years in a lame ass attempt to unsuccessfully imitate the success of our rivals.  This shit is under control.

BloomingtonBlue

September 10th, 2014 at 9:08 PM ^

You're acting like Golson was a true freshman and that no one had ever seen. He led his team, no matter how lucky to a National Championship Game and had many good games a long the way. For anyone to underestimate him especially our staff after last season, is insane.


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Space Coyote

September 10th, 2014 at 9:39 PM ^

That struggled with accuracy and making reads underneath consistently. He threw for 58.8% and 2400 yards as a FR. He generally struggled against better defenses, throwing 51.7%, 3 TDs, 3 INTs, 202 ypg against MSU, Michigan, Stanford, Oklahoma, USC, and Alabama. Not great numbers.

So yeah, they might have expected him to improve, they might have thought there were some things he did better against Rice, but past evidence and scouting showed he had some weaknesses, was mostly a game manager, and was a strong-armed QB with legs that could throw it downfield.

Reader71

September 10th, 2014 at 11:33 PM ^

Honestly, that doesn't say much unless there was a defender nearby. A 5-yard in thrown perfectly into a 1 sqft window is harder than a 50 yard bomb if the receiver can just run under it. That bomb looks impressive, but because its in the air longer, the WR can adjust to it and make it look perfect even if it was a bit off. The short stuff often has to be perfect because there is less room for error.

Point being, even if he looked good against Rice, it was a 23 throw sample size against a team with bad coverage. Whereas there were hundreds of throws against many defenses at a 58% clip from a few years ago. Including a performance against us where he got yanked. Everyone is surprised by how good Golston looked, man.

MWolverine7

September 10th, 2014 at 10:33 PM ^

I think what's more of an indisctment on Hoke is that early indications are that Golson has progressed more in year 2 than Gardner has in 5 years.  I am truly bothered by how stubborn Hoke is to not even consider bringing in Shane if Devin keeps screwing up..so much for playing the best players.

Indiana Blue

September 10th, 2014 at 11:14 PM ^

The book on Golson was a dual threat QB ( this is gospel because the national notre dame network pre-gamed this fact).  1/2 his throws were fucking perfect - slants, post corner and the killer roll out hitting the receiver on his fingertips with his toes still in and great CB coverage.  He had many other throws that sinply sucked - at receivers feet, too hard to catch and he missed some open receivers by 5 yards.

The defense did EXACTLY what you do with a dual threat QB - keep him in the pocket, because those QB's hurt you more times than not with their legs not their arm.  Yeah - the kid played out his ass - give him credit.  I doubt Joe Montana or Joe Theisman is worried about their legacies with Golson.

Good God - can we move on? 

Go Blue!

Kfojames

September 10th, 2014 at 8:24 PM ^

Agreed with reader71
If you go back and watch the game again you'll see that the D wasn't that bad. We've seen it before and we seen it again that when you play at ND you end up playing and submitting to their style of game and the refs fall into that too. The two pass interference calls that come to mind in my eyes were bullshit calls. One of them the pass was under thrown and almost out of bounds. I'll give them the one against jarrod. But in the grand scheme of it all, nd by most rights is a bit more of a finesse style offense (example of that is their inability to run the ball traditionally). So when you try to get physical with that type of team out on the edge in the passing game in their stadium you'll get the game called in their favor. It's the equivalent of playing at Cameron Indoor. I too at first was very upset with the defense then I went back and watched it again and felt a little differently about it. Really it was the Ramon, jabrill, and maybe even des being sidelined, shitty touchy PI calls that take you out of your game plan, inability to get to QB cuz of 3 step drops and not making enough plays/stops on 3rd downs all rolled into a 31-0 loss. But my thing is just like in any other sport the refs will set the tone for the entire game right off the bat. And if they aren't allowing a physical game on the edges it can totally throw you off and take you out of your game plan. You see it time and time again in all sports. It's too bad because I believe that with everyone healthy including Jabrill and the refs allow for a more physical game throughout, Nd maybe scores two legit touchdowns for the entire game. And a final score of 17-13 is an easier pill to swallow!