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Pro combat. Via Tremendous, freshman OL Erik Magnuson and Kyle Kalis in a dorm hallway:

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Magnuson should wear that on gameday. DEs would speed rush the wrong way.

Liveblog status update. I've checked out the comments left on the Liveblog Conundrum post and things seem split 60-40 in favor of CIL, but a couple of misconceptions may have swung that. To clarify:

  1. The embedded twitter feed hypothesized in the previous post would not be unmoderated. We would not be relaying the results of a hashtag. We would create a separate gameday twitter feed that would be part of the list that would exclusively retweet comments sent to it, a la CIL. There would be a base set of feeds like Ace, Heiko, Seth, myself, and Grant Wahl that would be in the list, and then various people who wanted to contribute to the list as commenters would send tweets to the gameday account.
  2. Kickstarter requires a deliverable, so their platform doesn't work for raising money for a service like this. We could do a generic donation drive for these things, but… it's moderated chat software. Paying these sorts of prices seems insane. Various people have brought up the idea of spinning up our own version, and I agree that is an attractive long-term solution but it's August and that is not an option for 2012.
  3. I don't see the "I might annoy people following my feed" and "I might not be as anonymous as I would like to be" issues as real problems. If anything, that kind of drag on posting would be beneficial to the over-stressed moderators. If you'd ever been in a CIL trying to figure out what to give an approve to you'd know. Caring about that sort of thing seems like a benefit.
  4. A commenter mentioned P2, a wordpress theme that turns a front page into… well, SB Nation comments. This would be great. It does not have a Drupal equivalent. I could try to incorporate it as a subdomain (live.mgoblog.com) but again, it's August and at this point it's time to embed or die.

Does that change any opinions?

Mattison in for the medium haul. I don't think it's a surprise that Mattison is planning on retiring at Michigan

"The good thing that happens when you're older and you've been a lot of places is, a lot of (coaches) want to win so they can move on," Mattison said. "Me? Hey, this is my last stop. I just want to win because it's Michigan."

…but maybe Borges saying the same thing is news:

"Now that I'm here, not really -- not like I did 10, 15 years ago," Borges said in a recent interview when asked if he still hoped to be a head coach. "I never say never, but by the same token, I don't go looking for them. Used to be I did, but I'm done hunting down head coaching jobs. I'm in a place where I'm very happy and I just want to make this job the best job I can make it.

"This is a great place to coach and to be, and for someone to leave here, you better be able to justify it. And I just don't see any scenarios that could justify me leaving the University of Michigan."

How long would these guys be in place? Well, Mattison is 62 and Borges 56. Norm Parker just packed it in at 69 due to health issues and Mattison says he'll keep going as long as those don't prevent him from doing his job:

"At first, I thought I might do this for a few years," he said. "But after this last season ... my wife, she said it me, 'What else are you going to do? You are going to go golfing for about two weeks, and then you're going to go crazy.'

"'I said, 'You're right. I'm going to coach, as long as my health holds up, and as long as they want me, and as long as I can still keep doing the job.' "

So this staff will probably hang together until someone gets poached to be a coordinator elsewhere or Mattison retires.

We're serious now you guys. Glad to see that John Infante, the Bylaw Blog guy, also had a problem with UCF's wrist-slap penalty for its athletic director paying a street agent(!) and that I'm not a bloodthirsty maniac. Or if I am I'm not a lone bloodthirsty maniac. Infante:

What UCF was accused of was, on its face, one of the worst packages of NCAA violations in recent memory. Not only were both of its revenue sports using a runner (among others) to help recruit athletes and that runner was providing benefits to student-athletes, but all of this was with the knowledge, encouragement, and even active participation of the athletic director.

For all that, UCF got off relatively light. Twin postseason bans, scholarship losses and major recruiting restrictions are not a slap on the wrist. But considering the conduct, it could and should have been much worse. The NCAA would have been justified in laying to waste both of UCF’s most prominent sports for the rest of the decade

Infante hypothesizes that the COI is waiting for the new enforcement structure coming down from on high before doing anything serious to someone. Well, it's here:

A program found to have made a "serious breach of conduct" with aggravating circumstances could face postseason bans of two to four years. In addition, the program may have to return money from specific events or a series of events or the amount of gross revenue generated by the sport during the years in which sanctions occurred - fines that could cost a school millions of dollars.

If this sounds familiar, it should. After the Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal at Penn State, the NCAA barred Penn State from playing in a bowl game or the college football playoff until after the 2016 season and levied a $60 million fine - the rough equivalent to a year of gross revenue from the football program.

Coaches, too, would face new guidelines. They would be presumed responsible for any violations committed by their staffs. If they cannot prove they were unaware, the head coach could be suspended from 10 percent of the season to the full season.

The board also approved a provision that would publicly identify individuals responsible for the violations if there is a finding of lack of institutional control or failure to monitor.

It won't be real until October, but it should be real then. Hopefully UNC and Miami are first on the chopping block.

I can foresee no problems with this. This is part of a generally sensible move towards slashing out big chunks of NCAA rule minutia:

Boosters would be allowed to contribute directly to the compensation of coaches, potentially controlling more of the terms under which coaches are paid, if a new NCAA proposal is adopted.

Under the plan, described in a 12-page NCAA document obtained by The Chronicle,boosters could come up with their own bonuses instead of giving their money to the athletic department and hoping that they would have the influence to get it written into a coach’s contract, one NCAA rules expert says.

I'm not sure who thought the problem with booster influence was that it was too restricted. I would like to tell this person that they're not right. The rest of the proposal seems fine by me: removing a bunch of recruiting restrictions implemented to maintain a "level playing field," including the contact restrictions men's basketball has already dumped.

Here's a person who is sane:

“The playing field is not and has never been and never will be level,” said James F. Barker, president of Clemson University and chair of the NCAA working group that came up with the proposed changes. “To say the NCAA should try to create a level playing field is impossible and is not a wise path to take.”

Here's a person who is not:

“I do not know if the proverbial ‘level playing field’ can ever be had,” Bill Zack, head women’s rowing coach at the University of Portland and president of the Collegiate Rowing Coaches Association, wrote to the working group through an NCAA feedback form. “But I think it is problematic to outright acknowledge that it is OK to have institutional financial advantage."

There's a place for that, and it's called DIII.

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shooters are shooting in code

Irvin hype. Rod Beard checks in with 2013 basketball recruit Zak Irvin and in doing so touches on the most remarkable aspect of Beilein's recruiting thus far:

"Irvin is probably the most improved kid in the state this year. He had a great year in high school and he's carried it over to AAU. He can really shoot, he's athletic at 6-7 and he's a lot like Hardaway," said Dan Dakich, who coached at Indiana University and now coaches an AAU team in the state.

"He's a better shooter than Hardaway coming out, but he's got that kind of length and can handle the ball and is comfortable on the perimeter. Beilein likes length and shooting ability and certainly those two kids can do that. I think they got two really good ones."

Over at ESPN, a couple of analysts confirm Dakich's assessment($). Paul Biancardi votes for Irvin as the best player he saw across two dozen AAU events…

His long-range jumper is accurate and if a defender gets too close, he will drive to the basket with a long first step. Plus, he has the size to score over defenders in the painted area. … Overall, he is a clutch performer, arguably the best player in the state of Indiana and the best player who helped his team win I saw all summer.

…and John Stovall plugs him as the guy most likely to rise in ESPN's rankings:

The Michigan commit has improved to the point where he is the best player in Indiana and one of the very best in the Midwest. He can play either wing position (SF or SG) and is a solid athlete who is much better off the dribble now with his improved handle. He can create space off the dribble and hit shots from midrange all the way to 22 feet. He is also better as a defender. He has nice length and athletic ability. Irvin is easily a top 50 player now and should be ready to play immediately at Michigan.

Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway, Glenn Robinson III, and now Irvin have all seen surges after their commitments as they pass various players Beilein has not recruited. (Hardaway and Burke had to wait to arrive on campus before getting the bump.) That's quite a streak. Talent evaluation: Beilein has it.

BONUS: rumble has it that Scout, the lone remaining Irvin skeptic, is about to come around whenever they update their rankings next.

We'll be seeing you in Michigan Stadium this fall. Congrats to Tyler Clary, the former Michigan swimmer who nailed down a 200M backstroke gold medal by beating favored Ryan Lochte last night-ish, then live-tweeted the replay.

We might not be seeing you in Michigan Stadium this fall, at least not early. Frank Clark's pretrial date is September 11th, which is after the Alabama and Air Force games. If Hoke goes by the Josh Furman precedent Clark will be out at least that long, but hopefully he won't since having Furman sit out spring practice for a piddling offense that was eventually dismissed seems detrimental to everyone.

Requirement: three people should have this jersey. The Wisterts' #11 is back in circulation as a legends jersey. Don't give it to Kovacs. Or Denard.

Minor hockey rule changes. Hand passes are now illegal everywhere, and defensive zone hand passes are subject to a no-change rule similar to icing. Deflecting a puck into the net with your skates is now cool as long as it's not kicked. (This rule will be changed within five years, because it always changes.) And defensive players slightly dislodging the net will not cancel goals like Michigan's second against Cornell last year. Which, like, finally.

Thumbs up on all of these. I think they should move the kicked-puck rule to a bright line: if the skate stays on the ice for the whole process, it's legit. If it comes off, it's not.

BONUS thing: Canadian university Simon Fraser is the NCAA's first international member. They'll enter at DII and will hopefully wrangle themselves a DI hockey program as soon as possible.

Only lawyer in America update. Also via John Infante, Michael Buckner's firm scored Montana's NCAA business.

Etc.: NCAA widens bowl eligibility to 5-7 teams if they have a top five APR, which, just… come on man. Every bowl that would ever consider taking such a team is stealing money from college football with ticket guarantees to games that will have no one at them. Countdown To Kickoff kicks off. Also counts down.

Comments

go16blue

August 3rd, 2012 at 9:05 PM ^

Whatever we end up doing, we should test it on a large scale before our first game. Maybe have a liveblog for the first game on Thursday? Get a few posters & mods just to make sure everything works

Bobby Digital

August 3rd, 2012 at 4:24 PM ^

Here's hoping the NCAA gives the women’s rowing coach at the University of Portland's opinion all the weight that the women’s rowing coach at the University of Portland's opinion deserves.

BucksfanXC

August 3rd, 2012 at 4:25 PM ^

It seems to me everyone who is against Twitter is only against it because they:

1) have some preconceived bias against twitter simply because Kim Kardasian uses it

2) want to give you money more than they want to take the 25 seconds to get a twitter account

3) didn't intially understand the things you just explained and now shouldn't be against it.

So, I vote, try Twitter and if it doesn't win everyone over in the first few weeks, start the process of developing a custom system to be tested during basketball season for next year.

maizenbluenc

August 3rd, 2012 at 4:29 PM ^

if Mattison was around until 69, and a few of the staff rotated out to get DC experience elsewhere. The value of a coaching tree is increased through rotation of the talent pool.

lexus larry

August 3rd, 2012 at 4:50 PM ^

Whether he retires at 64, 66 or 69, what happened last time he left?  Michigan Football has now placed itself, salary-wise, among the top 10 (?) in OC/DC renumeration.  Will we ever see again the promote-from-within philosophy that kinda sorta worked/didn't work after 1998?  Worked insanely well from Bo's first days (possibly before) through to the 1997 NC, due to having coaching rosters STACKED.  But looking back in the aughts, the loyal coach philosophy assisted the anvil in dragging down performances whereby better coaches/coordinators could have exploited the talent advantage Michigan held for so long.

My guess is some of the staffers will stay after Borges and Mattison depart, but OC/DC will become outside hires.  A guess, I know...

maizenbluenc

August 4th, 2012 at 8:36 AM ^

In the case of Loeffler - he was in the fold and is now in the OC role elsewhere. Much like Hoke himself, this is the way you create a legacy coaching tree. If Mallory is groomed to replace Mattison, I suppose it is posible within, but a few years somewhere else in the role is good experience.

The concern though is, one of Mattison's selling points is successful NFL experience ...

readyourguard

August 3rd, 2012 at 4:53 PM ^

I was recently driving from Encinitas, CA to LA, and passed right through Carlsbad.  I even stopped at the 7-11 there.   I don't recall too many combines or cornfields along the SoCal coast.  Magnuson must have stuck out like a sore thumb in a beach community.

 

 

TWSWBC

August 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 PM ^

My neighbors across the street are Oregon fans. It will be interesting if any wagers need to be made come New Years.

As for your aunt, I will keep an eye out for her and the yorkie. She will be saying "the man punted Baxter!"

xcrunner1617

August 3rd, 2012 at 5:33 PM ^

Either Kalis is sucking in his stomach or he is pretty damn chiseled for being an incoming college freshman.  No wonder everyone has been saying he is so college ready.

bdsisme

August 3rd, 2012 at 6:20 PM ^

I didn't weigh in on the CiL/Twitter issue on the last thread, but here's my take:

I think everyone who says fork over the money are just resistant to change.  Now, there's something to be said for consistency, but I think that the Twitter thing is going to work well -- even further, I don't think that CiL will work $800 per month better than Twitter.  After adjusting to the Twitter setup (which will just take a half hour), most will drop their argument for CiL.  If you can get the twitter setup to embed on the site AND update in realtime (you said you could, right?), then it is a no brainer.  (If it makes people F5, then I'm not as much of a fan, however.)

Further, you'll get a lot less of the spamming comments saying "I killed 5 hookers while at SMU ~Craig James" and the like.  The fixed cost associated with creating an account means that the comments will generally be improved.

 

Some people's arguments about the free twitter setup:

1) I don't have twitter: Create an account solely for this purpose.  Make it your mgo handle, make it random letters, make it anything.  You don't have to follow anyone, you don't have to tweet, you don't have to use it except for ~12 times a year.

2) I already have twitter, but I don't want to lose my anonymity and have my current followers see what I'm doing: Create a second twitter account; I'm sure you have a second email address (and if you don't, it's free).  Make it the same password as your mgo password and you won't have to worry about "remembering another account".

3) I don't want twitter, I don't want to have to create yet another account: OK, fine.  You'll still be able to view all the comments from the twitter feed -- you just won't be able to comment.  Don't kid yourself -- it's not like any of your comments would get approved anyways.

 

Not to mention, the CEO of Twitter is a Michigan grad.

bluesalt

August 3rd, 2012 at 6:54 PM ^

Other than the fact he's a good football player?  He's been accused of entering someone's dorm room and stealing a laptop, and nothing I've seen (but I could have missed something) indicates that this is a Josh Furman-esque misunderstanding.  Should he be kicked off the team?  No, I don't think so, pending at least the result of his case, because I'm a big believer in second chances, and this seems to be Clark's first strike.  But it's not a non-serious incident, and I wouldn't think it too harsh if he were forced to sit out a decent portion of the season.

Zone Left

August 3rd, 2012 at 8:29 PM ^

I'll drop my objection to Twitter if it is moderated. That said, I have no idea how to use Twitter, so I probably won't be able to help with said moderation. I would recommend setting up a trial run over the next couple of weeks for those of us who might be moderating the feed.

At least Twitter has a very stable platform that can deal with a small jump in Denard related traffic on Saturdays.

bronxblue

August 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 PM ^

As long as twitter is able to function similarly to the cil, then I'm all in. But twitter goes down at times, and performance could lag on the site. I know people keep complaining about all the "horrible" comments that were seen lay year, but I thought the moderation was top notch. As long as it doesn't become a huge functionality issue (like what happened with places like digg) I'm in.

Mr. Yost

August 4th, 2012 at 9:55 AM ^

Again...where was it ever put out that UCF was PAYING for the runner.

This is the second time this has been stated as fact on on this board and then the direct quote provided never mentioned money being exchanged.

julesh

August 4th, 2012 at 2:35 PM ^

None of that changes anything regarding CIL vs. Twitter. Twitter should be a non-starter.

It seems to me that you are only considering something other than CIL because the idea of them charging for something that has been cheap up until now bothers you. You are running a business here, as are they. Your audience wants CIL, you pay for it. Your 60-40 seems to be very generous since it seemed more like 80-20 for CIL.