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Rashan Gary falling on things

The UA and Army All-Star games immediately follow the New Year's Day bowl binge, and thanks to Harbaugh's roll-with-it recruiting Michigan has a lot of commits and targets involved. MGoUser "Tate"—who does not have a Forcier avatar for some reason—helpfully collects the various attendees and announcements coming over the next week:

Under Armour All American Game - Saturday Jan 2, 2016 @ noon (ESPN2)

  • Kareem Walker, RB
  • Ben Bredeson, OL
  • Devin Bush, LB
  • Rashan Gary, DL
  • Jean DeLance, OL - Announcing
  • Terrance Davis, OL - Announcing
  • Dontavious Jackson, LB
  • Jacob Mathis, TE

Semper Fidelis All American Bowl - Sunday Jan 3 @ 9 pm (FS1)

East

  • Brad Hawkins, WR
  • Ron Johnson, DE
  • Khaleke Hudson, ATH

Army All American Game - Saturday Jan 9 @ 1 pm (NBC)

East

  • Jordan Fuller, DB
  • Mecole Hardman, ATH
  • Isaac Nauta, TE - Announcing

West

  • Jordan Elliott, DL
  • Michael Onwenu, OL
  • Brandon Peters, QB
  • Donnie Corley, WR
  • Dylan Crawford, WR - Announcing
  • Lavert Hill, DB
  • David Long, DB

That's about a third of Michigan's current class plus the bulk of the gentlemen still on the board. IIRC, last year Michigan had just Brian Cole in the two main games (Semper Fi is notably behind the others in attention and prominence). This year it's a bit different. Prepare for all the vines and twitter videos of DL/OL drills:

Eh, I'd take him.

Gary seems likely to maintain his status as the top recruit in the country, so the guy I'm most interested to see evaluated on an All-Star stage is NJ RB commit Kareem Walker. Walker highlight tapes have been few and far between. He is not a slam dunk like Leonard Fournette. Michigan has had terrible luck with five-star-ish tailback recruits—Justin Fargas, Kevin Grady, Derrick Green, and Ty Isaac is the list, and it is not great, Bob. Rivals took his fifth star away

Walker recently lost his fifth star and has gone from a decisive, one-cut brute at running back to a bit of an indecisive runner who questions his instincts and dances a bit too much. Ball security is also an issue so he will need to have a fumble free week and catch the ball effectively as well.

…and I can see why even if the more likely explanation is "we were wrong" instead of "Walker got a lot worse." This will be a week that can confirm or dis-confirm Walker's move down on some sites and relatively low ranking on others. 247 has him as a guy to watch:

RB, Kareem Walker (247Sports No. 118/247Sports Composite No. 39) – We've taken some heat in the past for having Walker ranked low, particularly from the Ohio State fan base when he was committed there. While we still like Walker, we still don't see him as a rare back but more of an effective college starter. A strong Under Armour week could change our mind.

I'd take "effective college starter" given Michigan's luck with five-star types previously.

So about those decisions

Michigan's two remaining OL targets will be announcing within minutes of each other. MD OL Terrance Davis has seen a Maryland surge on his Crystal Ball with most of the heavy hitters flipping their prediction from M to the Terps. These flips do not appear to be guesses, as Steve Wiltfong reports that Davis has already told the coaches at the various schools.

Wiltfong also reports that as Davis continued to hold out, Michigan began to view him as a luxury. If anyone on that staff has followed Michigan recruiting prior to the last couple years they probably got that Laquon Treadwell vibe—you lead too long for a guy without a commit and you're just a placeholder until he figures out where he actually wants to go.

There will be some blah blah about Durkin but like whatever man. Sometimes recruits want to stay home.

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Delance and Keanu Reeves saved the future with music

Speaking of recruits who may or may not want to stay home, TX OL Jean Delance has been the staff's main priority for a fifth OL for months now because they view him as a tackle, and they want a tackle. Intel on Delance is all over the board. First, he brings good tidings:

Michigan: "Coach (Jim) Harbaugh. They treat me like family. They already have that No. 1 class. They have that set up. It's what they are going to need. There are still three or four four-star guys on the board that they are going to get that I know of. So I mean I just trust it's going to be a No. 1 class and they are going to be back on top next year (and be a) playoff team."

That article contains quotes from Delance on LSU and Texas that seem less enthralled, which continues a theme that caused us to ballz Delance to Michigan last week.

But that's an educated guess on a guy who could end up at any of his three finalists without it being a shock. The 247 Texas guy still maintains that mom wants him at home, and another quote from that article in which Delance says he's going to "duke it out" with his family seems to confirm that… while also confirming that Delance isn't eager to sign up for RichRod Year 3: Texas Edition. Wiltfong and the LSU 247 just batted a bunch of contradictory and alarming information around that I was going to summarize but since Lorenz just ballz'd Delance to Michigan let's ignore all that and concentrate on the good vibes.

To sum up: we think Michigan is the pick there but a late swerve is definitely possible.

The news is much more certain with CA WR Dylan Crawford. Reports from Oregon folks that the Ducks had run out of room for him have continued, with all the relevant parties flipping their ballz back to Michigan. There's been zero noise about schools other than Oregon and Michigan for months now, and it looks like Crawford's hat dance will be purely for show.

Finally, GA TE Isaac Nauta is the longest shot, with zero optimism coming from anywhere and Georgia people feelin' real nice.

I learned to spell this so let's make it count

TX DE Levi Onwuzurike cancelled plans to visit Arizona State and is down to Michigan, Baylor, and Washington. He remains mysterious:

He has seen all three other schools; Michigan, Washington, and Baylor, and had also indicated he might be making an announcement on January 20th, but this could come literally any day.

"All three schools have good academics", Onwuzurike said, "Distance is[n't] any factor -- and my parents have said it's up to me."

Onwuzurike has given nobody any indication as to where he's leaning at any point in the process. Lorenz says that Baylor is trailing, so Michigan appears to be top two.

Also in DEs

Alabama offered AZ DE Connor Murphy on Christmas Eve, because of course Alabama offers people on Christmas Eve. His January visit list is big time:

Murphy has already visited Oregon and has three official visits set up in January. He says, "I am going to USC on January 15th, then to Michigan the next weekend and then Alabama the weekend after that."

Murphy has a Harbaugh connection since his brother went to Stanford, and does not appear to be leaning anywhere in particular. Michigan probably does not have room for him of Onwuzurike drops; Murphy's schedule will allow Michigan to know if he's a major priority without an offputting "hey… maybe you want to wait."

Another commit who's not hearing much from the staff

MD CB commit Sir Patrick Scott told Rivals that he hasn't been in constant, or even intermittent, contact with Michigan's staff:

“Unfortunately I haven’t heard from the staff about the new coach,” Scott said. “I know nothing about him so I guess I’ll have to do my own research on his résumé to see how good everyone says he is.”

Uh. Scott says he isn't visiting anywhere and isn't planning on a decommit. Nonetheless the lack of an official visit and the lack of contact mean we should keep an eye on Scott's status as Signing Day approaches. There are a number of academic hoops you have to jump through to get approved for an official. A prospect who doesn't take any officials may not check all those boxes. Scott has not taken any officials.

Meanwhile, NJ DE Ron Johnson on Don Brown:

Johnson got the chance to briefly chat with him for the first time recently and is eager to begin playing under him.

”Yes, I did,” said Johnson. “He messaged me on Twitter right before the holiday introducing himself and talking to me about the future. He just said he couldn’t wait till I get there, so we can get to work. I believer he is a great hire.”

It would not surprise if Scott ended up decommitting.

Jones on Signing Day

FL LB Jonathan Jones tells the ND Rivals site that he will announce on Signing Day. He may commit privately before then. That silent commit will be meaningful since he's waiting for Signing Day to do a thing at his school but might want to reserve a spot before ND or M fills up.

Gary check-in

Vibes with NJ DE Rashan Gary remain steady. Rivals is a little salty at "other media outlets" for playing up schools like Ole Miss and Ohio State:

Despite his camp not coming out and saying it and team reporters at other media outlets writing stories slanted toward their audiences, Michigan is far and away the leader for Gary. At points earlier in his recruitment Clemson, Georgia, Auburn, LSU and Ole Miss challenged Michigan for the top spot on Gary's list but his relationships with the recruiting class, staff and players in Ann Arbor will be too much for any team to overcome.

If Ole Miss is running #2 Michigan is in a very good spot—Gary's mom had a run-in with a rentacop on that visit, which ended early. Meanwhile, there was a brief surge in Ohio State noise after OSU hired Greg Schiano as their DC. That didn't seem to last:

He has one visit left and is considering Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Florida, or FSU for it.

Etc.

Scout ranks MD OL Devery Hamilton the #9 OT in the country. Delance is fifth. Happy trails to CA S Lamar Jackson, who named a top four without Michigan. M led for a minute after his official visit but apparently they dropped him shortly after. TX LB Dontavious Jackson tells Mike Farrell that his top three is ITT Tech, Everest, and University of Phoenix. Crushing blow to Davenport's recruiting there.

2017 five star Donovan People-Jones says Michigan "proved itself" last season and will be a contender going forward. FL LB commit Devin Bush is very confident on FL WR Pie Young.

Comments

schreibee

December 29th, 2015 at 2:05 PM ^

You have NOT been following Gary's Mom then I guess? She is not an Ol' Miss type of lady!

I guess he could go full McDowell and not follow his parent's wishes, if he's 18 already. But I'm not thinking he's that guy...

Magnus

December 29th, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^

There's nothing new to report. He's taking an official to Washington on January 15th, then going out of the country for two weeks. He'll supposedly decide on National Signing Day.

kevin holt

December 29th, 2015 at 1:30 PM ^

Every article I read that tried to pump up OSU's chances with Gary involved some source or one of his high school coaches, whereas the other schools mentioned were all mentioned by his mom or himself.  Obviously his high school coach is going to play up the chances so that schools keep coming back to Paramus and stay interested in the school.  But it was clear they were out of it, which made it juicier to see their elation and confidence that they were going to beat out scUM for another 5-star.

M-Dog

December 29th, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^

He sounds like a great kid.  Very savvy.  I hope he comes here.

Also, he gave an opposing point of view to all the people that say don't pay too much attention to recruits when they visit, it annoys them.  

He loved that the Big House crowd knew who he was and kept calling out to him on his visit.  If he comes here, that's an assist to the often (unfairly) maligned Michigan fanbase.

 

Magnus

December 29th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^

The interesting thing is that Michigan has put out feelers at other positions to potentially fill needs if they miss on big-time recruits (Chase Allen at TE, Khaleke Hudson at S/LB, Malcolm Roach at TE/DE, etc.), but that hasn't been the case on the offensive line. They might  be okay with just Delance or Davis on the OL.

Lanknows

December 29th, 2015 at 2:36 PM ^

That they feel good about one of the OL targets (hopefully Delance)...BUT  they might also be putting feelers out that we don't know about, OR have a Norfleet type of kid who will commit once offered, OR they might just be willing to wait a week to put out those feelers.

meeeechigan78

December 29th, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^

shady 'crootin is a way of life in the Sec, just ask Urban.

I think we get: Gary, Crawford, hill, young, long.
Jackson looks like a no, and he could compete immediately, but oh well.

as long as we get Gary...

BornSinner

December 29th, 2015 at 1:44 PM ^

Anyone else kinda feeling uneasy about the whole "offer a lower rated recruit then don't talk to him and hope he gets the memo" approach Harbaugh has?

Don

December 29th, 2015 at 1:58 PM ^

That doesn't mean that what appears to be occurring is the right way of going about recruiting.

It's bad enough to accept a verbal from a kid and then tell him pretty late in the recruiting cycle that you no longer want him, but to simply refuse to be up front with him about it stinks even worse. If that's what's actually going on, that is.

Michigan and Harbaugh shouldn't have to resort to these kinds of games, if that's what's going on.

East German Judge

December 29th, 2015 at 5:01 PM ^

Agreed, recruiting has never been and will nver be 100% clean.  We all read the recent BB threads where even the revered programs werte dirty. 

I am in no way saying we should be paying players under the table/bagmaning it, but I trust Harbaugh to do the right thing.  And I am sure there are a ton of cases where recruits have given there word to a coach and at the last second backed out. 

FatGuyTouchdown

December 29th, 2015 at 8:03 PM ^

just say "Hey, [Insert Recruit Name], We are no longer recruiting you. Recruiting is a numbers game and unfortunately we won't have room for you unless you would like to Greyshirt. You're a good kid and I really regret doing this. Best of Luck!"

 

That's not very hard. I'm not complaining about Harbaugh, but lets not pretend he's perfect. He's 9.9/10

klctlc

December 29th, 2015 at 9:08 PM ^

This whole argument is somewhat silly since this is not the only factor. If we weighted the major factors for us fans, I am going to go out on a limb and say "winning" would be high on the majority of fan's wish list.  

Furthermore if we looked at the correlation between "aggresive recruiting" and winning, it will be probably be fairly high.

In a perfect world, everything would be black and white with M and recruiting, but it is not a perfect world.

I wonder how many people who are truly upset about Harbaugh potentially ignoring commits once better pickins show up really don't care if M ever beats OSU or MSU, or continues to win once a decade of the OSU?

I am not advocating SEC style recruitin, but M has to push the envelope.  Obviously we never want to get near the Ed Martin days, but if Harbaugh is cutting off communications with some commits I think that is fine.

Also, for some of the lower rated guys, I find it hard to believe they did not get a benefit of being a M commit?  Don't you think more D1 coaches started to look at their film once they found out Harbaugh was after them?

M-Dog

December 29th, 2015 at 3:48 PM ^

You should never hear "coaches stopped talking to me" from a commit in late December.  Those kids obviously don't know where they stand and time is running out.  

If you are committed to the kid, let him know.  If not, let him get on with his life.  Time is up.

 

Franz Schubert

December 29th, 2015 at 7:33 PM ^

Fully honoring the scholarship if the recruit wants it but limiting communication to let the recruit know they are not prioritizing them is worse than pulling a recruits scholarship? This is what many are missing on this issue, Harbaugh is not recinding the offers, he is staying to his word and honoring the scholarship if need be. The lack of communication is a way to let the recruit know that they may be better off elsewhere as the dynamic has changed. Nothing wrong here. Until Harbaugh pulls a scholarship, which is wrong, this is a non-issue.

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You Only Live Twice

December 29th, 2015 at 9:49 PM ^

that's it exactly, offers not rescinded, scholarship not rescinded, make up your mind where you want to be.  Wish I could upvote you more.

In reply to by Franz Schubert

champswest

December 29th, 2015 at 9:50 PM ^

but I strongly disagree with it. Not talking to a recruit is not better than having an honest conversation with him. Let me say that I admire and respect the fans on this site who love Michigan and love Harbaugh, but are not reluctant to speak out against perceived improprieties.

Ziff72

December 29th, 2015 at 1:55 PM ^

It does look shady but  Brian was giving you bits and pieces while being nice.

Has Scott been in contact with anyone from Michigan?  Probably.  Most of it having to do with his grades and test scores.  Do you think he wants to come out and say oh yeah my grades suck or is it better to say you haven't had much contact?   

When this recruiting stuff gets reported remember that the story is 100% coming from the players side.  

Until it's confirmed by 100 sources I'm going to choose to believe the coahcing staff would not accept someones commit and then ignore him and leave him twisting in the wind for months. That is not a good business practice.  

 

Pepto Bismol

December 29th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

What if it's reported far and wide that the M staff indeed ceased contact with SPS in October (or whatever), his scholarship given to another, and he ended up playing in the MAC or something. Would that be the concrete reason not to trust this staff? How would that affect your M football fandom moving forward?

I'm imagining:  "Sure, M landed the #1 class in the country and pulled in Delance and Gary on signing day and Walker was upgraded to a 5-star and we pummeled Florida in the Citrus and are preseason top 10 going into '16... but remember that guy from that one summer camp that looked good for 2 days and had a tentative offer but ultimately ended up at Bowling Green? What was his name? Sir Patrick Scott?  Yeah, he should've gotten a phone call in December and he didn't and that's bullshit."

"F**k Jim Harbaugh and f**k Michigan. That's why I gave it all up and now have MLS season tickets."

Something like that?  Am I close?

BuckNekked

December 29th, 2015 at 4:43 PM ^

 If this is the worst criticism of Harbaughs recruiting we are way the fuck ahead in the bagmen, oversigning, cut throat recruiting game. If you want perfection in recruiting you better go root for an Ivy league or Division 3 school. Or expect to lose a lot. 

These kids are competing for one of 27 spots for a free education to one of the premier universities in the entire world. An education with connections that will set them up for life in any field they choose including professional sports. They arent entitled to these benefits just because Michigan extended a non-binding offer that either party can back out of at any time short of a LOI or Financial Aid agreement. There will be some spilt milk and some hurt feelings in any such situation. I would have killed to even be considered for such an opportunity.

This kind of pissing and moaning about hurt feelings really ticks me off. There is way too much of it in this country.

Harbaugh is as straight a shooter as there is in public life today. Give the guy some credit.

Neg away