Purdue 64, Michigan 51 Comment Count

Ace

I don't have much to say here, because nobody is going to want to read this.

Michigan went into halftime with an eight-point lead after Spike Albrecht drilled a contested three over AJ Hammons. A long two by Zak Irvin kept the lead at eight with 19:11 left in the second half.

The Wolverines would not hit a shot for the next 12:34. They'd finish with just three second-half field goals.

The big three of Zak Irvin, Caris LeVert, and Derrick Walton combined to hit just 6/31 shots. Irvin managed to miss all four of his layups, and he accounted for nearly half of M's total attempts at the rim. If not for Albrecht scoring 17 and Ricky Doyle going 3/3 from the field, this game somehow could've gone worse.

Aubrey Dawkins, the hero of the Illinois game, scored a basket for Purdue on an accidental tip-in. He did not score for Michigan.

A Big Ten road loss is not a death knell, of course. The fashion in which Michigan acquired it, however, is deeply troublesome. The Boilermakers crushed them in the paint, owned the glass, and on the rare occasion they gave up half-decent looks, the Wolverines rarely converted.

Whether it's inexperience, injuries, the lack of a viable big man, or—most likely—some combination of the three, there's something deeply wrong with this team. They're running out of time to figure it out.

Comments

MGlobules

January 3rd, 2015 at 6:39 PM ^

what might have been with Walton so obviously slowed. He was starting to be so confident driving last year, so clearly doesn't have that first step this year. . . and started so many fast breaks with his own rebounds. . . We looked better with him out against Illinois, sadly.

My hunch is we'll tend to be hotter at home and win a few, but often be stone cold on the road like today. All judgements about how good most of the frosh will ultimately be remain mostly conjecture, though.

The2nd_JEH

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:34 PM ^

Just no leadership on this team. When things start to go sour, the team just looks to be wide-eyed and silent. Nobody other than Beilein says anything and you can only do so much from the sideline. It's gonna be a long B1G season if some people don't start to step up



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Chiwolve

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:11 PM ^

I disagree -- the problem isn't lack of leadership, it's lack of leadership from your leaders if that makes sense. I think Spike does a great job of providing leadership and stepped up when called upon. The problem is that none of the big 3 are providing the leadership that we would expect and our freshmen class is no where near as ready as the previous two have been

Soulfire21

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:35 PM ^

The Beilein hate in the open thread is laughable. We are set to have a down year, but that will happen because of the mass exodus to the NBA (because, you know, we have a good coach).



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Don

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:41 PM ^

Still so puzzling to me... considering the manifold success that the program has had over the previous three seasons, there's no obvious reason for us not landing more elite-level talent. My cynical suspicion is that most of the elite-level kids believe they're one and done and have no interest in the academic side of things, and they know that Beilein and his staff won't stand for that.

umchicago

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:49 PM ^

i don't think the talent in the state of michigan has been very good the past few years.  it seemed to me that there were several 4* and 5* players just about every year in the 90s.  not so much in the 2010s.

kentucky and ohio have a nabbed a couple the past few years, but outside of that, what studs have we missed out on?  beilein has dipped into indiana to supplement this and has done a great job at winning some battles down there.

where are all of the stud detroit players?  there used to be a constant pipeline.

umchicago

January 3rd, 2015 at 9:01 PM ^

the highest rated was a 4 star (reynolds PF- louisville 2014). he was offered by Mich.  The only top 100 player in the state (using rivals).

Hunter (UTEP 2013 guard) that was probably his best offer. We got Walton/Stauskus

Morris 3/4 star (Iowa St 2013 PG) We got Walton

Bass (Detroit 2013 SF) probably his best offer. We got Irvin.

Hass (Bucknell) can't find a ranking for him.  i mean, it's Bucknell.

Matthews (Rhode Island 2013 PG) he rec'd some good offers.  We got Walton

I will add James Young (2013) who went to kentucky.

A few of these guys have performed above expectations.  a couple borderline top 100.  The state used to routinely put top 50 guys in the ncaa.  it's been pretty weak the past few years.

MGoBlue100

January 3rd, 2015 at 9:14 PM ^

squarely on the head.  The one-and-dones are going to college purely because they can't go to the NBA.  No interest in a difficult class schedule.  Certainly wouldn't have worried about exams as our players had to after playing in Brooklyn.  This is the trough at the bottom of the wave.  They'll be better by the end of the season.  Probably not NCAA tourney good, but better.

Tater

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:08 PM ^

It's basketball.  Sometimes the shots don't fall.  It's one game.  The loss of Nik Stauskas looks more and more devastating as time goes by.  To use baseball slang, this team doesn't have a "stopper" yet.   They can't really count on anyone to hit an open jumper when they need to stop a drought.  

They will have a game where the shots start falling soon.  They will suddenly start winning games again.  They will look totally different.  People will try to figure out what they are doing better.  But the main reason will be that shots are finally going down instead of going "clang."

It will happen.

Soulfire21

January 3rd, 2015 at 7:42 PM ^

True, and I didn't mean to imply that there was a large amount of it, but there was some. IMO grabbing highly touted 4 and 5 star recruits just isn't Beleins MO, he gets guys who he thinks will be good in his system and then coaches them up. Our problem this year is we've had so much attrition to the NBA. Now, based on this season he may definitely need to evaluate whether his recruiting method is sufficient.



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RobM_24

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:40 PM ^

This season is basically done. Just a bunch of live practices for the young guys now. Unfortunately, I'm not sure many of those young guys will ever amount to much. Our brightest light so far is Doyle, and he'll always be hampered by his height. Chatman & Donnal have shown no signs of life despite many opportunities. MAAR is just an emergency option. Dawkins may have hope, but I'm not sure he can create for himself; and with nobody breaking down defenses, he probably won't get a lot of open 3's or lobs.

RobM_24

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:46 PM ^

Trust me, I hope I'm wrong. However, we just got manhandled by a Purdue program that was dead in the water the last couple of years. Add that to NJIT, EMU, and the Arizona thrashing ... we're building a strong case that we're just flat out bad.

WolverineLake

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:43 PM ^

I don't remember Michigan being such a streaky team in the past.  We've had a few games where the team has been Arctic cold when it comes to shooting.  It's hard to win a game when your shooting percentage is in the teens.

switch26

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:45 PM ^

I counted 10 missed layups before i stopped watching that garbage..  How many did we miss after the first 2 mins of the second half?

1of12MattDamons

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:49 PM ^

Twas disturbing to watch this game. Oh well, though, a down year was bound to happen with the massive turnover and on the bright side it is beginning to look like everyone will be returning next season except for Max.

m1jjb00

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:07 PM ^

I doubt those things are as up to date as a time stamp would suggest.  No one is playing good enough to be snatched up. Now the other side of the good news is that if 1 of 12 is wrong then it will be because guys start playing a lot better.  That wouldn't be bad either.

Walter Sobchak

January 3rd, 2015 at 8:55 PM ^

No offense to the kid, but I don't think he's really played at all like first round talent. Too many poor decisions. One of the big things I see is that we get no production off the pick and roll this year. That and the shooting is putrid.

klctlc

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:56 PM ^

Sorry, still looking for bright side. Levert, the only threat on the team of the dribble in  half court set is likely gone.

Next year is not looking much better right now. Unless Duncan Robinson got a lot more athletic.

They need athletes on the wing and down low.  Beilin is great coach. Will always be great coach. He has to step up his recruiting though.  McGary is his only 5 star I believe?

We were so spoiled the last few years. Unfortunately 2016 looks like the next big year for M recruits.

DCGrad

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:52 PM ^

But it's not looking good. Rebuilding years are bound to happen unless you are Duke.  Even Kentucky missed the tourney a couple seasons ago.

Roy G. Biv

January 3rd, 2015 at 4:54 PM ^

What a grisly performance.  This team is easy to defend--pressure them on the perimeter and challenge the 3s.  Looking more and more like a lost season.

 

Ovr

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:00 PM ^

has not made the transition--as Stauskas before him did--from complimentary, stationary stand-still shooter to being the go-to guy. No assists. No easy baskets attacking the basket. Until he, or someone else, establishes himself as the second fiddle to Caris, we'll be at or near .500 and hoping for an NIT bid.

JayMo4

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:11 PM ^

I never understood the Stauskas comparisons at all.  Just because two players can both shoot threes doesn't make them similar players.  Stauskas was an aggressive player with a high IQ, dangerous off the dribble and making passes.  Irvin.... shoots.  He has trouble getting to the basket against most defenses, and his ball skills are adequate at best.  Nik carried us at times last year.  Irvin is still a one-dimensional role player on a team that is counting on him to be a star.  We'd love him on a team that had either a good low post threat or guys that were good at penetrating and kicking it out.  Unfortunately, we're lacking in both departments this season.

The bright side for us is that he won't be two-and-done like Stauskas was.

Eyzwidopn

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:01 PM ^

Sit Walton!  He needs to get healthy because right now his playing hurt is hurting the team.  He can't cover opposing guards off the dribble, his shot is off because it looks like he can't get his normal lift and you can just see his confidence waning.  That said, I still like his fight, which is more than I can say for Irvin.  Watched Irvin hang his head after missed shots, not fight through screens on defense and overall just bad body language on the court.  

I don't think this team has "entitlement fever," believing  that the successes from the past few years are to be given, not earned, but there is something you feel watching them that suggests the chemistry is way off, and it's not just about learning Beilein's system.  There are basic breakdowns on defense and a seemingly directionless offense that shouldn't be present 14 games in to the season, especially with veteran players/starters knowing the system.

GOBLUE4EVR

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:02 PM ^

is not the player we thought or wanted him to be!!! he thrived off of being the 3rd or 4th option but now that he the main guy he just can't do it unless the other team is shit... irvin was supposed to be the replacement for nik but he just too streaky of a shooter for that... the 3 headed monster of donnel, max, and doyle is just not that good its like watching 3 zack gibsons out there... overall this team reminds me a lot of the early days of the JB era...

bronxblue

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:02 PM ^

It just feels like a team that has a vacuum of sorts at the top - there isn't an offensive leader to direct play, stop bad streaks, etc.  I have my doubts this team makes the tournament, but maybe next year it means the team is better situated because it has more players returning and growing in the system.  

That said, whatever happened to early-season Irvin is tragic; the guy can't seem to do anything effectively right now.

JayMo4

January 3rd, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^

I do think we're far enough into the season that it's at least fair to post constructive criticism - It's annoying when you can't make even the fairest of negative points because Beilein had success last year or the year before.  If Harbaugh goes to the playoffs next year and then goes 5-7 in 2016, it'll be perfectly fair to point out whatever problem areas exist at that time.

 

None of Beilein's teams have been particularly good at defense, rebounding, or post play (except during the 2013 tournament run with a healthy McGary.)  The difference in the good seasons is that the offense has been scoring at such an absurdly high PPP rate that we've been able to cover that up.  This year, the efficiency has dipped and all the normal issues we usually overcome with offensive efficiency are now fully exposed.  

Part of this is likely due to leadership, and yes some vets would help (although in the modern game if you're a sophomore with playing experience, you're basically an upperclassman.)  LeVert is supposed to be our star, and he's a junior that was playing as a freshman.  Ditto Albrecht.  Walton was starting last year.  Irvin was a sixth man last year.  We're young, but we aren't putting five true freshmen on the floor.  We actually returned a lot of minutes from teams that made deep tournament runs.  

It's also disappointing that a five man recruiting class didn't provide a single instant impact player - Doyle comes closest, but he's not going to make anyone's freshman AA team.  It's easy to excuse some of this team's issues based on departures, but Purdue alone has two freshmen better than anyone in our class.  Looking around the Big 10, there are a handful of other freshmen I'd say the same for.  A team that went to the finals and the elite eight in successive years ought to be able to capitalize just a little bit more than that.  I like the long-term upside of four of our freshmen (I still don't get the MAAR offer, forgive me,) but a team that is winning the Big 10 and making final four runs probably shouldn't have to count on projects.  Just one Vince Edwards or Isaac Haas would have probably made Michigan a tournament team.  Purdue got both without having any recent on-court success and despite a coach on the hot seat.  I don't expect us to recruit like Kentucky (the red herring that always gets thrown out there:  "We're not Kentucky!"  I know, dude,)  but I do expect us to recruit as well as middling conference teams.