Mailbag: Brandon Job Security, Basketball Redshirts, Residual Soccer Stuff Comment Count

Brian

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Brian,

The message boards have a good deal of speculation about Hoke's job security.  At what point will Dave Brandon's job security come into question?  A while back you outlined a number of failures during Brandon's tenure.  To me, the fact that ticket sales are so slow, that even the students seem to have had enough of this BS, has to raise some eyebrows with people in power.  Or is Brandon firmly entrenched as long as wants to be here?

As Brady said, "This is Michigan, fergodsakes."  It's not feeling much like Michigan lately.

Thanks,
James
Class of '93

I don't think Brandon is particularly entrenched.

I've heard chatter that certain people in positions of power would be happy to see a change… a lot of chatter. But I've heard that chatter for over a year now, and predictions that Brandon would be replaced have come and gone. At this point I'm skeptical that the people are inclined to do much, or have the power to do so.

That said, Brandon's now in the same situation Rich Rodriguez (and big swathes of the department he replaced) was: his boss did not hire him, and his performance is in the range where replacing him wouldn't raise eyebrows. It's quite a trick to get the entire student body to hate you.

Gents of MGoBlog -

In these recent times of hardship for the football program, Dave Brandon has taken a lot of heat for his cardboard cutout marketing/branding efforts when it comes to the team and other University athletic programs. There seems to be a large and growing consensus of fans (at least on the MGoBoard) that point out every misstep they believe he makes - there have been quite a few dud ploys he and the AD have rolled out.

However, i'm curious to know if there are any decisions or moves he's made as AD that the MGoPolitburo or wider UofM community have received positively. Have any of the AD's ideas under his leadership had a direct positive impact on any or even one of the school's athletic programs? Whatever the case may be, who are some Athletic Directors who "get it" at their respective institution who you would like to see in charge at Michigan?

LB

The main thing people point to in Brandon's favor is the pile of cash. I'm not that impressed, because you or I could have been appointed AD and sat there wibble-wobbling our lips and Michigan would have seen an enormous uptick in revenue. Brandon's first official day on the job was the UConn game when the luxury boxes opened. The Big Ten Network and the expiration of the Big Ten rights deal provided another large bump.

What revenue that is attributable to Brandon comes from piling a bunch of rights together and selling them in a pile to IMG and testing the outer limits of what people will pay for Michigan football tickets. That's good if you're running a public company and your stock options are about to vest, but there are indicators everywhere that the fanbase has finally been worn down. Brandon is chipping away at fan goodwill constantly, and I worry about the long term impact of the clear divide between big chunks of the fanbase (and all of the students) and Brandon.

Meanwhile, what do I care about the amount of money flowing into Michigan's pockets? It does me no good. It doesn't seem to do anyone any good. The Big Ten has been the nation's best money extraction device for some years now and they still end up hiring Tim Beckmann. Meanwhile, every athletic department in the Big Ten is trying to find ways to launder their piles of cash by plowing it into minor sports that hold the same interest for me no matter how well they're supported.

I do like the legends patches (if only they'd stop screwing with people's numbers), but the rest of the changes he's made to the Michigan gameday experience have been negative.

As for potential replacements, there are a couple of Michigan alums at prominent schools: Jeff Long is at Arkansas and Warde Manuel at UConn. Long got handed a poop sandwich when Bobby Petrino had his motorcycle sexytime accident, but recovered impressively by pirating Bret Bielema away from Wisconsin. Whatever your personal opinion of Bielema, that is a coup of a hire for a school like Arkansas. He was just named the chair of the CoFoPoff's selection committee, as well, so he's respected within the AD community.

Manuel hired Turner Gill at Buffalo, who briefly made Buffalo not the worst team in D-I, and then ended up hiring Kevin Ollie at UConn, though that was not much of a decision. Paul Pasqualoni was already in place when he was hired at UConn; he fired him and replaced him with ND DC Bob Diaco after taking a swing at MSU DC Pat Narduzzi. That may or may not work out but that process seems pretty sensible to me.

Importantly, both of these guys have experience in the job they'd have at Michigan.

Basketball redshirts

Could you give odds/estimates on the likelihood of all six freshmen redshirting next year?  At the end of the regular season we expected Doyle and probably Wilson to redshirt.  Now they're both potentially heavy rotation players while two unheralded wing players signed up that may play key roles or may redshirt.  Help us sort out the situation.

Doyle, Wilson, and Chatman are all going to play. I don't expect Hatch to. MAAR/Dawkins is where it gets interesting. Michigan has tried to redshirt guys who are young and need some polishing, but both MAAR and Dawkins are older than average freshmen. For MAAR that's just because he's older; for Dawkins it's because he took a prep year.

It would make sense for one to redshirt with Michigan looking at a small (one member?) 2015 class, but with the NBA attrition these days you might want to play both in an effort to see which guy can help you more down the stretch and prepare both to take over for LeVert and possibly Irvin. I'm guessing everyone plays.

Bagmen conspiracy

There have been three high level recruits who have decommitted this recruiting season.  My question relates to the bagman article mgoblog referred to a couple months back: is there a possibility that there are Michigan bagmen who disapprove Brady Hoke and have pulled their resources from high level recruits in an effort to more quickly dump Hoke?  I realize there are many factors that play in, I just can't help but wonder after reading the bagman article.

-mp2

No. While I imagine bagmen play into the recruitment of one of the guys who has decommitted, the situation there was more local guys getting involved with family members than anything Michigan did or did not do.

I don't know if Michigan actually has bagmen per se. It doesn't seem like their style, and it doesn't really seem like their style to remove support even if they do exist.

Occam's Razor suggests that the guys who have decommitted have done so because they saw last season's football team and are a little leery of signing on with a program that might be seeing a coaching change in the near future.

[After the JUMP: some soccer stuff.]

Brian,

Reading your pieces regarding the World Cup run by the USMNT as well as following the O'Bannon trial stuff has left me with an interesting question.  Do you think that significant change with the NCAA would lead to significant changes in sports like soccer? 

College soccer in this country has a history of sending players to the USMNT (Dempsey, Zusi, Omar, etc) but it seems like MLS is now pushing more towards developing young players and getting them into a professional environment sooner (Yedlin, Luis Gil).  Klinsmann has talked in the past about the benefits of a professional environment opposed to playing college soccer. 

If changes came down the pipe regarding likeness rights or paying players, how would you foresee schools utilizing the new rules?  Are they going to continue to focus on revenue sports or will the non-revenue stuff see the changes as well?  What about if the power conferences break off to form their own division away from the NCAA? Just curious as to your thoughts of how NCAA changes would affect other non-major sports.

Thanks!
Ben
Des Moines, IA

College soccer has been flogged as a hindrance to the USMNT for far too long. Soccer's like reading: if you can't do it by 18 there ain't nothing a college can do to help you. The NCAA's practice and game restrictions are an increasingly small issue since a lot of top-flight prospects either skip college entirely or leave after a year or two.

They can do this now because there are people willing to pay them to play. NCAA structure is less of a problem than the fact that there were few (or no) alternatives. MLS is gradually changing this. They keep adding teams, and now there's a push towards having USL PRO affiliate reserve teams.

So, yeah, in a world where a small number of schools can go do something innovative without having to get it past Indiana State, there is the possibility of revamping a portion of college soccer to make more sense in the larger context. One way to do this is to ignore the NCAA altogether. BYU's team plays in the PDL, which is roughly the fourth tier of soccer in the country. They have to go to class and keep on track to graduate; they are otherwise completely free to do whatever they want to soccer their best soccer.

Zoom out a bit. Chicago's currently playing a kid named Harrison Shipp, who was a homegrown signing for them. (MLS now has a rule that kids you developed in your academy for at least a year can be signed without going through the draft.) He spent a year at ND before signing for MLS. There's a kid at Stanford everyone's hype about who the Sounders will scoop up in another year.

It would make sense to formalize these relations, to take a number of colleges who are open to the idea and make them extensions of these MLS teams' academies. The NCAA could allow this; if they don't the colleges can just go do it on their own, like BYU. This will help fix the current problem with college soccer: it's got the brands but it doesn't have the level of play to make it attractive. You might have something if Washington and Ohio State and Northwestern were local affiliates for MLS teams.

This is probably too weird to fit in the NCAA even in the upcoming autonomy era, but there's no reason every sport has to be sanctioned by Mark Emmert. Sometimes NCAA sports are just dumb. Don't get me started on baseball.

Futbol!  

General Comment - I think a lot of the country got caught up in the World Cup and while we don't want MGoBlog to turn into MGoUSMNT, I think it would be welcomed to build a little on your recent coverage before fall.

With hindsight being 20-20, what decisions (with tactics or personnel) would you have made differently, building off of your game columns?

In hindsight? I would have replaced Davis with Donovan, Johannsson with Eddie Johnson, and Green with Mo Edu. Davis was nonentity in the Germany game, the US had no replacement for Altidore, and they had no defensive midfield backup once they decided that Beckerman and Jones were playing together.

If I had Klinsmann's roster, though, I don't think I would have done that much different other than roll with Beckerman against Belgium. Removing him turned out to be a major error that left Belgium pile and piles of space. I would have started Diskerud against Germany instead of Davis, with Mix at the tip of the diamond and Bradley/Jones as the "shuttlers" beside, but that hypothetical change wasn't likely to do much about the result.

There wasn't much else to do. Klinsmann was repeatedly, literally hamstrung with forced substitutions. The logical assumption after Johannsson went in for surgery as soon as the WC was over was that he was not available for selection, or at least that picking him would be a big gamble. Then you're down to Wondolowski as your one true striker. That's some bad luck.

I don't think most casual fans realize that we never got to see Bradley or Dempsey play their actual positions/roles in this tournament with Altidore's injury.  How would the product on the field looked if those three players were in their natural spots/roles?  Do you think it would have affected any outcomes? 

Oh, I don't know, man. We saw how Germany's back line got stretched over and over again by Algeria's Islam Slimani. That kind of thing is definitely in Altidore's wheelhouse and would have given the US a pressure outlet, allowing them to have more of the game. And then we saw a major uptick in USA possession once Wondolowski came in, as Dempsey finally got to drop back into the midfield and combine with Bradley.

That's the part that really hurts. With Altidore up top there was a clear link pattern: defenders get it to Bradley—Bradley, Dempsey, and Altidore interchange. Cutting out Altidore and replacing him with either Zusi, Bedoya, or Davis was a huge downgrade.

I do think the US would have had more possession and found more balanced games. They may not have turned that extra possession into goals, but it's hard to judge Klinsmann for not delivering the pretty possession soccer he promised once an admittedly irreplaceable chunk of the team goes out.

Comments

Everyone Murders

July 10th, 2014 at 1:33 PM ^

I'm not a big fan of Brandon.  He strikes me as an arrogant type who probably talks more than he listens.  And I supported RR when he was here, but agree with many that after the Mississippi State blowout he had to go. Not all of his problems were his fault, but that's how life works sometimes.

Howevah, to accuse Brandon of firing RR "in the most douchey fashion imagineable" seems wildly off base.  Don't believe me?  Ask Lane Kiffin about being fired in a douchey fashion.  (Not that Kiffin is guy who deserves a bunch of sympathy.)  The Kiffin firing was Douche-Con Level Two at least.

evenyoubrutus

July 9th, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^

This is a totally but really only semi-serious question: is there any chance that Michigan could pull a Pistons and offer Jim Harbaugh to be the head coach AND Athletic Director?

Does asking this make me sound like a caller on 97.1 The Ticket?

Penders

July 9th, 2014 at 7:52 PM ^

The big question that I don't think has ever really been answered is WHY was Brandon hired to be athletic director in the first place? Because Coleman did not unilaterally make that decision nor is Schlissel the only one who will decide whether DB stays or goes. If the regents hired him because they wanted a Corporate America AD, the last thing they have is buyer's remorse even though they have probably caught a lot of flak from Brandon's many detractors.

The hard thing to face in this is that many of the rotten eggs with football influence that Bacon and others shined a light on may still be in the basket and don't believe there is anything wrong with the wicker work.

 

 

Bando Calrissian

July 9th, 2014 at 8:00 PM ^

The thing with Brandon, there are too many big-time donors who are major-league pissed at this guy to ever let things go too far. These are the kind of people who will gleefully walk into 1000SSS and talk to their Victors Club point person if there's as much as a single hair out of place, and they all seem to be approaching their boiling point these days. Talk to any Victors Club Life Member, and to a man/woman, they'll tell you as much. I even know of a few who have started to give to other parts of the University instead of Athletics and just accept the fractional giving points to make a point.

I'll give Brandon credit, he's put the squeeze on them where it hurts. They can't keep having that same access without the increasing amounts of cash he's extracting from them. But the nickel-and-diming and generally cold "what have you done for me lately?" vibe from the Dave Brandon Athletic Department simply can't be sustainable for very much longer when donors are involved. 

Bando Calrissian

July 9th, 2014 at 10:34 PM ^

Money is money, tailgating spots are tailgating spots, perks are perks. WIns are nice, but I just don't buy the "if we win, people don't care" argument. It wasn't true when Bill Martin was rubbing these people the wrong way with the PSD's and Victors Club shenanigans during runs of regular Rose Bowls.

But, whatever. I just know what I've seen and heard, and most of it has not been positive towards Brandon, in an unusually vitriolic way. Sure, these people may not have liked Martin much, either, but he was a known quantity. The staff had been there for years. We all pretty much knew the score. Then Brandon cleaned house, replaced the old folks with MBA-types, and all of the sudden everything changed for the worse. Policies made even less sense, language got corporate, and loyalty became a year-to-year, not decade-to-decade thing. The whole thing is pretty absurd, IMO.

dahblue

July 9th, 2014 at 9:13 PM ^

Someone here mentioned his ego as being the big problem and I agree.  He thinks himself a genius of all things and that's where he gets into trouble.  He brags about running every detail of football events, but isn't an events person.  He wastes time with skywriting stunts.  He makes himself present for any possible camera.  The guy needs to delegate and shift responsibility to those who can do a better job in the areas where he's failing.  The alternative is to accept responsibility for all of the shortcomings (i.e. back-to-back roadies at MSU) whether its truly his fault or otherwise.  Hold yourself out to be the man, and you've gotta take the good with the bad.

He's clearly doing well raising money and boosting non-revenue sports but isn't paying attention to the long-term harm he's done with students and alumni.  The student seating mess happened because Dave thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.  The clown uniforms happened because "we need the wow factor".  Just step back, Dave.  Let people do what they do best and you shake hands, collect checks and dream about Dockers.

Don

July 9th, 2014 at 10:00 PM ^

For a guy with his experience in marketing and PR, Brandon has sometimes displayed a remarkable lack of understanding of his own customer base. Anybody in his position should have known that:

• Not taking the band to an away game he was selling as sort of a "bowl game" was going to piss Michigan fans off bigtime, especially given the fact that many of those fans have been clamoring for home-and-homes with teams like Alabama. The fact that the band eventually went didn't eliminate the bad taste left in the mouth.

• Charging for water was bad enough; trying to extort money for seat cushions was a PR disaster of the first order, and completely unnecessary to the financial health of the department.

• Skywriting and the Noodle might be relatively insignificant by themselves, but on top of the first two items, they were further irritants that were unnecessary to the health of the Athletic Department.

• The student seating disaster of 2013 was a dumb response to a simple problem: too many tickets were being sold to too many students who didn't care enough to show up on time, or at all. The simplest and most direct response to this lack of demand should have been a reduction in the size of the student section, without screwing around with the seating priority system that had been in place.

• A continuing escalation of ticket prices in the face of arguably the worst home schedule in many years while the department is millions of dollars in the black is never going to sit well with any fan base, especially when the team is struggling. A more prudent action for the long term would have been to hold the line on ticket prices for 2014.

 

 

alum96

July 9th, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^

Most CEO types,especially of the male sex, (I'm a male) tend to need to have an ego to get to that level in a public corporation.  Then once they reach the CEO level they tend to be surrounded (by design or the way these things work) a bunch of yes men and brown nosers.  I am sure it is not much different in the AD of a major university.  Long story short when you hear how he doesnt undestand people, seems cold, seems indifferent, narrow focuded,has blinders on, seems confused by any criticism, etc - this is a guy who for 15+ years has been surrounded by people telling him yes he is smart at every turn.  He has lived in a bubble being a head honcho for a long time.

That doesn't mutually exclude him from being a great AD - but when you guys describe some of your qualms with him it sounds almost identical to my experiences with a handful of public CEOs and their "yes men" in the 2 levels right below them.

Discosure - I am indifferent to Dave Brandon as an AD at Michigan, he has done some good things and some dumb things.  And I don't think every guy who played/practiced under Bo is a magical man who is above reproach.

Don

July 9th, 2014 at 11:24 PM ^

In my experience, the CEOs with the large egos (male and female) will, over time, surround themselves with the yes people and brown nosers because they can't abide anybody disagreeing with them on anything. It's a rare leader who has subordinates with the confidence to tell them when they're wrong about something and not get their asses thrown out the door at 5pm on Friday.

trueblueintexas

July 10th, 2014 at 12:17 AM ^

I recommend reading Marshal Goldsmith's insight on this. He has been a coach to CEO's for years. He has found the yes man phenomenon is not a result of the CEO or their ego. Most often it happens despite the CEO's efforts to avoid it. A CEO might simply provide an opinion to be discussed (a good trait), but it becomes an edict because it came from the CEO. I.e. The subordinates become yes men to the title/position not the ego of the CEO hiring yes men. Goldsmith has really interesting insights based on the access and experience he has had.

CLord

July 10th, 2014 at 11:31 AM ^

Yep I lived the "yesman" experience first hand.  Crushed a colleague in sales for years, but where I'd challenge my managers and at times be sent to the real life equivalent of corporate Bolivia, my yesman colleague got the promotion that should have been mine for out performing him for years.  Corporate Bolivia and MGoBlog Bolivia... man guess it's time I look in the mirror.

As to Brandon, the one dynamic  few seem to address here is the possibility that in Brandon's mind, winning is by far the most important way to "appease the fanbase" and to that effect, his focus has been more on doing things around the game time experience that would enchant recruits more than Michigan fans.

Johnny Bacon talked about how Michigan fans go to games to get away from Beyonce and commercialization and to hear the band and take a load off, but can the same be said of the recruits that are being courted on the sidelines?  I'd guess a 16 year old recruit would be a little more impressed by Beyonce than by the band, and most definitely would be more impressed by winning.

Personally, I'm a band and hotdogs guy and Beyonce gives me a great deal of gas and occasionally hives, but the lack of recruit-centric consideration associated with Brandon's actions  appears vacant to me.

bronxblue

July 9th, 2014 at 9:20 PM ^

Re:  Brandon

For all the great elements of this blog and its focus on giving a voice to a subset of the fandom, I think it sometimes overstates the problems people have with the AD.  Brandon's department makes money year-to-year, which most institutions can't say, has great licensing revenue, has a storng national brand, and for the most part stays above the fray when it comes to scandals.  I know Brian and others might disagree with this take and generally dislike Brandon's MBA-ness, but UM is a lot closer to a corporate entity than most would like to admit, and that means unless Brandon absolutely bombs with ticket sales (which he won't because of the secondary market) or has a massive PR screwup, I don't see a reason why he would need to be moved.  And for the record, this blog LOVED Brandon after he basically said "what they said" when the NCAA ruled on the Freep issue.

Re:  Redshirts

I don't see anyone getting a redshirt (save for Hatch) unless they get hurt or just do not seem like viable options early in the year and Beilein doesn't see a way they can round into shape.  As Brian noted, you can't expect guys to return for multiple years anymore, and so you need to get players meaningful minutes as soon as possible so that you know who will be an option next year and beyond, and how that will influence recruiting.  I absolutely expect MAAR to get some minutes early on, and Dawkins wouldn't really be served by another year off from college ball unless he just can't compete (which seems unlikely).

Re:  Bagmen

I'd be surprised if there aren't UM fans/booster-types who give money to recruits.  That doesn't mean they are as intertwinned with the athletic department as you see in the SEC and other conferences, but Ed Martin was a proto bagman in mayn respects and I kinda doubt that was the one and only guy to do so for UM.  I love UM and am proud to be an alum, but "moral superiority" is something they sell to old alumni who think Bo was a god; it isn't how you maintain a competitive team year-to-year.  I don't believe it is rampant, but I'm sure there are guys who hang around the AAU circuit and those football camps and steer/keep guys at UM when, perhaps, there are other individuals seeking out the recruits' services.


 

Mr. Yost

July 9th, 2014 at 9:23 PM ^

"I do like the legends patches (if only they'd stop screwing with people's numbers), but the rest of the changes he's made to the Michigan gameday experience have been negative."

1. UTL I & II were AMAZING - especially the first one, it was a home run on every level. II was a very solid sequel.

2. The renovations have all been well done. I hadn't been on campus in 10 years and have come back twice to see the Crisler, Yost and Schbechler Hall upgrades and all were much needed improvements. Sure there are complaints in each, but they weren't negative.

3. Hoke has had a better 3 year tenure than Rich Rod by almost all accounts, I can't say it's positive by "MICHIGAN" standards, but how is it negative? Especially when you look at what he was given.

4. Brandon has kept Beilein and his entire staff when the heat was on...the program is better than it's EVER been under Brandon. He's given big time raises to secure the coaching staff and the future of the program. Negative? Yeah, right.

5. I'm not a lacrosse guy, but Brandon has implemented that program and it grows each and every day.

6. He's hired and/or retained a number of successful coaches of olympic sports.

He's not God. He may not even be a great AD...but he's done more than unretire numbers and put patches on jerseys (which wasn't 100% Brandon at ALL).

Mr. Yost

July 10th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^

That's my point.

I mentioned things that I think were positive. But Brian basically said everything Brandon has been all negative except for the patches.

That's garbage.

Everyone was kissing his ass when he was paying for big contracts for the football assistants. Same recently when he ponied up to keep the MBB staff.

I mention those because those were things literally at both ends of his Michigan career, he's done a hell of a lot more in between.

You can get better than Brandon, no doubt...but you also can get a HELL of a lot worse.

In reply to by ClearEyesFullHart

Needs

July 11th, 2014 at 10:40 AM ^

So you think Brandon went in and told him, "Hey John, we really need to bring in coaches to teach man-to-man to compete in the Big 10 and to achieve better player development and recruiting connections." I think it's far more likely that Beilein, whom almost everyone ackowledges is one of the smartest coaches in college bball examined his staff after the season and saw serious shortcomings that he thought were insurmountable. 

MGoBender

July 10th, 2014 at 7:34 PM ^

FTR: I think Brandon has done a fine job, even though he has been pretty tone deaf in many situations.  On your points:

1. I don't get why Brandon gets credit for how great UTL was.  Night games were coming.  Fact.  Brandon or not.  Let's give credit for the amazingness of that game to Denard.  Remember how awful that first half was.

2. Like Brian mentioned, the renovations were coming (Mich. Stad. was done before he was hired).  Of course they've been well done - you think the MIchigan athletic department would hire poor architectural and construction companies?  Credit to Brandon for moving it along at a brisk pace and getting mad donations for it.  BUT let's not give him too much credit for what the Michigan Brand created oer decades.

3. Hoke vs. RR arguments should not be had in support of or as an attack of DB right now.  It's not out of the realm of possibility that RR year 4 would have been just as good as Hoke year 1.  If football fails badly this year, we could be looking at the football hire as a monumental mistake.  Jury still out.  

3a. Something I would have LOVED to see out of the AD would be to publicly admonish the way RR was treated by the old guard.  Of course, donations talk, but that would have been a Michigan Man being a leader.  Also something probably nobody but Bo could have pulled off, so not a knock on DB.

4. Beilein was never on the hot seat.  The heat was only on in the sense that idiot talk radio callers were whining.  In other words, the heat wasn't on.

5. Let's not say DB has implemented the lacrosse program.  The lacrosse program has been being built for years and years.  Credit goes to everyone who's put in those years and built it from the ground.  DB gets credit for his sales pitch to the regents to make the move a year or two sooner than most expected.

6. Bakich and Barnes-Arico look solid.  Let's not forget Michigan isn't the toughest sell in the world for up and coming coaches at lower-tier schools.

These are all great moves for the athletic department, but I think what Brian is getting at is that any experienced athletic director or CEO type would have reasonably been able to pull off all these with the mountains of cash coming in from the BTN and ESPN.

Clark Griswold

July 9th, 2014 at 9:41 PM ^

I thought I read an article where Alabama pretty much just dumps all their resources into football and their other sports just suck. Can someone less lazy than me look up their success in other sports?

Would we be okay with the AD ignoring other sports and just focusing on Football and Hoops?

This is Michigan

July 10th, 2014 at 4:19 PM ^

Bama softball is pretty solid. 

Michigan also has nearly double the number of athletic programs than Alabama. 

If it hasn't been mentioned, Brandon's ability to budget for the addition of lacross programs has been a plus. 

Clark Griswold

July 9th, 2014 at 9:47 PM ^

Perhaps if we allow advertising the prices for tickets won't be as much. We want it both ways we seem....

JediLow

July 10th, 2014 at 12:40 AM ^

The problem is that there's no direct need for the additional revenue, it's not like the AD is hurting for cash in any way. If we were running a deficit or even close then I doubt anyone would argue against raising the prices because the program actually needs it - what's happening is that prices across the board (on everything - tickets, food, drinks, PSD) have gone up a ton because Brandon only sees the fan base as an unlimited souce of money that he can exploit.

ClearEyesFullHart

July 10th, 2014 at 1:29 AM ^

There is reason to believe that the current model for revenue sports is about to end.  Maybe Brandon is positioning Michigan to succeed in the brave new world to come.  Is it possible that funds for the facilities that Brandon is upgrading like gangbusters could dry up in the future?  I don't know.  I think there is a very real possibility that he might have a better grasp on the situation than we do.

As far as the price increases go...Yeah.  Premium basketball games at $60 minimum is pretty ridiculous.  But when it comes down to it, I'd rather watch them win on 70 inches of LED than watch them lose in Crisler.

Michigania

July 9th, 2014 at 11:08 PM ^

The USMNT, if Klinsmann coaches the next Cup in 2018, that, for the first time, we will be a legitimate threat to win it all. And I cannot wait.....

Yeoman

July 12th, 2014 at 8:00 PM ^

I give the US full credit for not pulling a Brazil, but they were completely dominated by a Germany that didn't need to win the match and played much of it at half speed.

I hope the program remains in the hands of people that realize there is still a very long way to go.

victorsvaliant01

July 10th, 2014 at 12:39 AM ^

To Appy State again, then would Brand-on have to be fired?

And if you go with the fairly obvious answer of "yes," would you make that sacrifice?

I would honestly have to think about it--and possibly even lean toward yes if it would guarantee we'd never have to deal with his ridiculousness ever again after this season.

THAT'S how much I hate this man and what he's done to our program, stadium, gamedays, students, and fans.

ClearEyesFullHart

July 10th, 2014 at 1:14 AM ^

Like it was the low point of the program.  You're forgetting that it was widely regarded as one of the biggest upsets in the history of sports.  At least it was an upset.  In the two(three?) years after Carr stepped down, App St. would have been favored.

Yeoman

July 11th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^

Postseason rating-differences in the Massey archive (the spreads in these cross-division games tend to track Massey and Sagarin pretty closely--I'm guessing the oddsmakers use them heavily):

2008: Michigan by 5 over App St.

2009: Michigan by 1 over App St.

2010: Michigan by 8 over App St.

I agree with your general point but I think you've exaggerated slightly. Of course, part of that is a decline at App St., who peaked in '06 and '07.

CLord

July 10th, 2014 at 11:44 AM ^

Ever think perhaps Brandon's philosophy is focused more on helping Hoke recruit than making you happy? Gameday spectacles and Beyonce probably impress 16 year old recruits more than the MMB.  And if said recruits come to Michigan, perhaps Michigan starts winning again, and if Michigan starts winning again and becomes a regular Top 6 team again, everyone will be happy, even you though you'd hate to admit it.

The rest of college football, especially down South, has seen a massive explosion in commercialization over the last 15 years, and you blame Brandon for maneuvers to try and keep up with the Joneses because how dare he try to change with the times?  You're probably that old guy driving his banged up Ford Edsel shaking his fist at those Fusion and Prius drivers.

victorsvaliant01

July 11th, 2014 at 12:58 AM ^

The noodle, skywriting over MSU, seat cushion DEBACLE, absurd student general seating policy, complete ignorance about what's really important to those kids (hint: it's not the wi-fi!), BUILD ME UP BUTTERCUP, putting together the worst home football schedule ever, etc. fit into your "keeping up with the Joneses" exactly?

He had about ZERO to do with basketball's success--IMO, that was almost entirely Beilein.

Also I'm 31 and drive a Focus--32 MPG, baby!

bronxblue

July 10th, 2014 at 11:52 AM ^

Your hatred feels a bit misplaced if your issue is with a guy hired to run and athletic department and make money just presided over one of the best stretches in basketball history at UM, brought in a competent football coach and helped fix the crater the program was in at the end of Martin's run, and consistently keeps UM in the black while improving facilities.  Yes, he is trying to monetize the program to a degree some are uncomfortable with, but he's done nothing to the "fans" and "students" unless we are going to blame him for the Freep fiasco, the RR hiring/firing situation, not having steady recruits for a couple of years, and every other factor related to UM's struggles in football.  Because that's what people are bitching about here - UM not winning at football as much as they used to.  The athletic department at UM, taken as a whole, is doing fine and many teams are performing quite well.