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|1 day 5 hours ago||My point on the increased||
My point on the increased participation was that it encouraged more participation from elementary school to high school...due to the possibility of getting a scholarship and due to the promotion and visibility of college sports gettings kids to want to participate. For example, more girls could play softball at a younger level because they could possibily get a scholarship or because they saw 20 college games on ESPN that attracted them to the sport. I agree once you get to college that there would be no material difference between having varsity sports and club sports...but I think the main thing is that having varsity sports does create more participation at the younger levels before getting to college.
|1 day 9 hours ago||While I disagree, I really||
While I disagree, I really appreciate this well reasoned post as you are one of few who acknowledge there is a tradeoff here. Like you point out, no one is anti non-revenue sports as its always popular to generically support more opportunities for students...but at least you are recognizing that there is an explicit tradeoff that will become more and more of an issue going forward. My main pushback is the way scholarships for nonrevenue sports for females have increased the educational opportunities for females and increased female participation in sports resulting in improved leadership, teamwork, and emphasis on health. I dont think club sports would have resulted in the same effect.
|1 day 10 hours ago||I dont feel like anyone has||
I dont feel like anyone has attacked nonrevenue sports..but I think this will become more of an issue down the line.
|3 days 14 hours ago||I think what you dont realize||
I think what you dont realize is the criticism isnt coming from pro-Brandon people. I have stated many times in this thread that I think Brandon should go...but I also think the reaction to him lowering ticket prices here is a complete joke and hypocritical. I get it that its only one thing and that you dont trust him to not change his coat again if he saves his job...but that doesnt make this annact to criticize when it is finally in line with what you are calling for.
|4 days 1 hour ago||Name another school...Ha -||
Name another school...Ha - well how about the entire Ivy League, Stanford, Northwestern. Every school would do it if they could get the donation...look at the other schools I listed.
Stanford coach David Shaw is the "Bradford M. Freeman Director of Football." Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald is the "Dan and Susan Jones Family Head Football Coach."
|4 days 1 hour ago||The subject of this thread||
The subject of this thread is a start. Regardless of your opinion of Brandon, its a good thing. When you rip on his meetings with CSG and the lower prices, you destroy any illusion that you are actually objective around this subject.
|4 days 1 hour ago||I think the whole after hours||
I think the whole after hours or time stamp issue is so overblown. Everyone sees everything immediately in this day and age that you might as well just release it when you have it and not wait for some special time. I hardly doubt the 1am release was a matter of trying hide things as everyone knows everyone will see it. It sounds like they worked on it all day and felt like it was best to just get it out when it was done rather than waiting until the next morning.
|4 days 1 hour ago||Agree. Given that Dishell||
Agree. Given that Dishell tweeted about this last week and there are quotes from Dishell and the SAAC on the release, it is clear this was a joint release and wasnt a matter of Brandon putting something together in 2 hours. It was probably agreed that it would be released after Dishell did his presentation to the regents.
|4 days 1 hour ago||I totally agree with your||
I totally agree with your sentiment about students. I was just replying to a post about justifying the cheaper ticket prices by saying Mich would make more revenue...no way. The post said it was pretty obvious that increase in ticket sales would offset the lower price...not a chance.You could charge $100 for each OSU fan wanted to see that game and thats an additional $800,000 right there which offset his math before even considering the MSU game.
|4 days 1 hour ago||So are many of the professors||
So are many of the professors in all the academic departments? Are you saying that its too cheap and sleazy to endow athletic positions but it is fine to endow professorships in academic departments?
|4 days 1 hour ago||Well stated. You actually||
Well stated. You actually seem to get it. Regardless of your opinion of Brandon, this is a good thing.
|4 days 1 hour ago||He had the meeting with||
He had the meeting with Dishell last week. Dishell tweeted last week that there would be announcements on this so it was already in the works. Dishell mentioned it at the regents today so everyone already knew about this. His message didnt really break anything new other than allowing you to have a problem with the time stamp on his message.
I think Michigan is better off without Brandon but the response to him trying to make improvements is pathetic. Would you have responded more favorably if he raised the prices?
|4 days 1 hour ago||What justification? Perhaps||
What justification? Perhaps Schlissel ordered him to make progress with relationship with students right now and this was a tangible item that would have real meaning rather than just vague promises. Also people on the prior thread said they didnt trust him and that he would weasel out of the promise so giving an actual $ amount makes it more believable and tangible.
|4 days 1 hour ago||Huh? So the guy does||
Huh? So the guy lowers student ticket prices as everyone has been calling for and you attack him? Sure I get it that it is a PR move for the AD. But who cares - its still a win for what people have been asking for. If the AD continues to do other good things, its a win even if it was done for PR. Remember the goal is to have them do everything for PR and have them do things that will be well received by the fans.Yeah - its only one thing but the response you have is a complete joke.
|4 days 4 hours ago||Thats a pretty big "if" that||
Thats a pretty big "if" that you just assume away..especially considering that you can be certain those extra 8,000 would be bought very quickly by opposing team fans for the MSU/OSU home games at premium prices.
|4 days 5 hours ago||What a dumb comment. You say||
What a dumb comment. You say that his PR moves recently are to the fan's benefit and thats a problem and makes you dislike him more. As a fan, you should be hoping for lots more of PR moves that are for the fan's benefit. Isnt that what everyone has been asking for - good PR moves that treats the fans well instead of doing bad things that treat the fans poorly. Basically your comment says that it is personal to you and that you will criticize Brandon for any move regardless of its merit. I think its best if he leaves but comments like yours show that part of the movement to replace Brandon is far from objective.
|4 days 5 hours ago||I dont follow that logic.||
I dont follow that logic. There is no harm in identifying areas that can be improved and then implementing fixes to improve them. Sometimes policies can be changed to fix the problems and sometimes personnel changes best do this. If they think he has a good plan to fix these issues and is capable of implementing it then they should have no problem with him staying. Regardless, I think he will not make it through this.
|4 days 8 hours ago||I felt those charts actually||
I felt those charts actually showed the Brandon has had great success in revenue. Im not sure how the guy writing the letter came to his conclusion..maybe the charts could be interpreted in different ways.
Those charts could easilry be interpreted as favorable for Brandon:
-Under last couple of years under Martin, the AD revenue was well below that trend line..not its well above under Brandon
-Michigan looks to have gained relative to other schools on the second chart. Look at Florida/Alabama...in 2009, Michigan was below both Florida and Alabama in revenu and now it is higher in both
I understand there is a lot of other noise (like BTN revenue) but those charts actually made it look like Brandon was making a mark on the revenue side. Im not ready to conclude that but I think the interpretation of those charts was bizarre by the writer of the question.
|4 days 8 hours ago||All of the arguments about||
All of the arguments about coaches having to sign out really only apply to the last couple coaches as presumably the document would have been already created so they were asked to sign it.
|1 week 3 days ago||He did say he plans to attend||
He did say he plans to attend a game/match/contest for every single team at least once during the school year.
|1 week 3 days ago||Brandon was active yesterday||
Brandon was active yesterday meeting with Michigan student government CSG president.
|1 week 3 days ago||Yes - people are ignoring||
Yes - this scenario is being ignored relative to the two extreme scenarios (Brandon fired or Brandon continues with no real change). The tweet from UM CSG president today shows your scenario may already be happening:
|1 week 4 days ago||Not sure if anyone saw this||
Not sure if anyone saw this earlier today...current Michigan CSG president tweeted this:
|1 week 4 days ago||I was replying to a question||
I was replying to a question where someone expressed disbelief as to why players/former players would think fans are against the players. This is why I think its possible that they would think that when they see the hatred. Yeah we all know its meaningless Twitter tough guys but that is what people see. I never said Gardner cant handle it or anything so not sure what that has to do with this.
|1 week 4 days ago||Agree..I should have said||
Agree..I should have said "certain fans against certain players at certain times" instead of just saying the fans. Its not a large amount but even when its only a handful of fans, the effect is the same and the player sees it and former players comment on it (Marcus Ray has commented several times on the hate DG gets).
|1 week 4 days ago||He had a 5th but Caleb Stacey||
He had a 5th but Caleb Stacey decommitted two weeks before signing day to sign with hometown school (Cincinnati).
|1 week 4 days ago||Obviously you have never||
Obviously you have never looked at the twitter hate towards Devin Gardner when he has struggled. Its pretty obvious that the fans are against certain players at certain times. And yes, these are people with Michigan backgrounds on their profile.
|1 week 4 days ago||Alabama & #7||
For #7..It depends how you define whether Alabama sufficiently supports nonrevenue team.
If your definition is do they even have a team...the answer is NO that Alabama does not have any of the following sports Michigan has: men's soccer, men's hockey, men's gymnastics, men's wrestling, men's lacrosse, women's field hockey, women's lacrosse, and women's water polo.
That is 8 sports I count that Michigan has a team while Alabama does not have a team. By the way, Michigan has a team in every single sport that Alabama has so it doesnt apply the other way.
Im not saying there is a wrong or a right way...but this is another area that Michigan football has to essentially support where Alabama doesnt have to.
|1 week 4 days ago||Nice try..blaming this on||
Nice try..blaming this on Brandon. But Bill Martin was the AD that hired RR and refused to pay more to bring Casteel over. Actually your argument is in favor of Brandon...because he realized the importance of paying up for assistant coaches and allowed Hoke to get Mattison to leave the NFL by paying his considerably higher than Michigan had paid assistants before.
Seriously...I believe its best if Brandon leaves...but when you make fake arguments to criticize Brandon (by attributing what Martin did to Brandon), it seriously undermines everything you say as it makes it clear it is personal to you rather than objective.
|1 week 4 days ago||Why is the endowed coaching||
Why is the endowed coaching position ridiculous? The university (and every other university) has endowed faculty/professors like that in every single academic department but when they do it was a football coach it is then unseemly. I find this completely bizarre that you and others try to make this argument. Its like you are arguing that it is OK to commercialize the academic institution but that isnt appropriate for the football team.