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By Brian — August 11th, 2010 at 12:41 PM — 203 comments
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See? Grim.

That rumor metastasized quickly: Tim reports that Dave Ablauf has just read a statement that Justin Turner has asked for and received his release to transfer. I blame myself for suggesting that this offseason had been a relatively tranquil one when it came to things that mattered.

It sounds like the 11 pounds Turner put on in the offseason were not the good variety, and that he was never in a position where he was physically ready to play because of sheer lack of desire. Odd for that to happen with a corner—usually it's linemen battling to stay under 350 that wash out because they're not interested in keeping up with the work.

Impact on the team bit: losing Turner is a terrible blow to a secondary short on everything; beyond the starters at corner Michigan has three freshmen, one of them highly touted and the other two middling three-stars, and vagabond James Rogers. Corner's the worst spot on the team to suffer attrition. Turner was a near five-star coming out of high school who killed people at the Army game; his disappearance from Michigan without so much as playing a snap ranks up there with the most disappointing recruiting flameouts ever.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:42 PM | can you make your next post (Score:1)
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can you make your next post about kittens?  Please?

 

Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
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August 11th, 2010 at 12:49 PM | Our UM Staff Insurance covers (Score:1)
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Our UM Staff Insurance covers mental health issues right? If not, loop this until the urge to kill fades.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:55 PM | Counselors are standing by! (Score:1)
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http://www.umich.edu/~fasap/

We help with:

  • Marital/Partner  or Interpersonal Relationship Concerns
  • Depression or Anxiety
  • Managing Roster Change Effectively
  • New Parenting Skills
  • Grieving the Loss of Yet Another Defensive Player
  • Improving Family Communication
  • Clarifying Important Life Decisions
  • Managing Personal or Football Stress
  • Alcohol or Other Substance Misuse
  • Improving Communication with a  Co-Worker

Looks like a couple of relevant services....

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:05 PM | A few more blog posts like (Score:1)
CRex
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A few more blog posts like this and "Michigan Football" is going to be its own bullet point on that list.   Not just the defense :/

 

Edit: I wonder what they'd do if I cried them, sobbing and talking how Turner just transferred. 

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:07 PM | "Sir, you sound like an (Score:1)
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"Sir, you sound like an excellent candidate for one of our Football Angst Support Groups.  We've got groups meeting over the lunch hour at various locations on campus.

22 of the 27 groups meeting on North Campus appear to be full, but it looks like we could wedge you into one of the Wednesday groups--do you want the 11:30 start time, the 11:45, or one of the later hours?"

 

Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
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August 11th, 2010 at 12:57 PM | Christ, if they hung out a (Score:1)
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Christ, if they hung out a shingle for "depression and worry over U-M football" they'd drive benefits costs at the University to Zoltan-like heights.  

I'm pretty sure we're on our own.  

I'll stick with my original plan:  Clutch at my MGoBlog shirt and watch kitty videos all day, until such time as the news on MGoBlog changes.

 

Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
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August 11th, 2010 at 1:47 PM | I'm a psychologist, but I've (Score:1)
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I'm a psychologist, but I've never been trained in this. I'm on board with your coping plan...

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:02 PM | Turner, why? (Score:1)
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Turner, why?

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:11 PM | I mean, WTF? (Score:1)
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Have we ever had so many dong punches in so short a time as the last three years? Can someone do a special voodoo ritual to clear this mojo up? This is Goddamn bad, no sugarcoat.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:32 PM | I have a stockpile of virgins (Score:1)
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but no volcano in sight.  I'm gonna have to move again.  Fuck!  i just finished unpacking! 

Journal Entry - Day 782 of living amongst inbreds - Actually heard this today, "I don't see what the big deal is.  All he was doin' was protectin' the players. What's wrong with that?" 

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:49 PM | Damn (Score:1)
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This one hurts. Anyone else have a stomachache?

They mostly come at night... mostly.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:55 PM | here's one (Score:1)
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Yep, bring on the ulcers.

"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:44 PM | ok, so I felt that one (Score:1)
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ok, so I felt that one through the cup....  Best of luck J.T.  I hope you find your motivation somewhere.  Don't let that talent go to waste!

Meeechingan Football 2011:  Now featuring ManBall™

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:44 PM | I'll tell the girlfriend the (Score:1)
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I'll tell the girlfriend the only flatware we're using from this point forward are chopsticks.  Anything with an edge is out.  

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:48 PM | Chopsticks (Score:1)
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Chopsticks can do some damage too, if you try hard enough.  Hopefully that will not be necessary.

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures. "

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:50 PM | If we lose to UMass I could (Score:1)
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If we lose to UMass I could see myself plucking my eye out with the chopsticks, like that old sensi in Kill Bill.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:56 PM | That cannot happen.  That (Score:1)
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That cannot happen.  That cannot happen.  That cannot happen.  That cannot happen. That cannot happen.  That cannot happen.  That cannot happen.  That cannot happen. That cannot happen.  That better not fucking happen.  That cannot happen.  That cannot happen.

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures. "

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:58 PM | Maybe I'll just bury myself (Score:1)
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Maybe I'll just bury myself alive and see if I have the motivation after this blow to punch my way through a wooden coffin.

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:19 PM | I'd think the 6 feet of earth (Score:1)
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I'd think the 6 feet of earth above the coffin would be your bigger concern.

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:32 PM | I agree with you, but The (Score:1)
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I agree with you, but The Bride didn't seem to have too much trouble with that part

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:30 PM | Sporks (Score:1)
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Only Sporks.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:44 PM | Oh hell.... (Score:1)
Geoff
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Oh hell....

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:45 PM | sheesh - what a rotten way to (Score:1)
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sheesh - what a rotten way to start the first week of camp.  Bottom line - it'd be worse if he showed promise on the field in any capacity.  The fact that he's never been phsically viable as a corner might indicate he'll never live up to his recruiting hype.  All I say to this is...

Well, shit.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:54 PM | The last line... (Score:1)
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My thoughts exactly.

I guess I need to stop reading this blog at work so I don't swear out loud in the office anymore...

"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:46 PM | 5 Star Dong Punches (Score:1)
jmscher
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They really hurt

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:47 PM | Who can we offer the 2 jersey to (Score:1)
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in this class?

http://semichigansports.com

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:54 PM | someone from Florida, Texas, (Score:1)
silverslugger
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someone from Florida, Texas, or California

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:58 PM | Someone on defense since (Score:1)
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Someone on defense since Vincent Smith also wears #2.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:47 PM | No... (Score:1)
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... Best of luck to you, Justin.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:49 PM | Oh (Score:1)
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Oh Hamburgers!!!

 

Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:52 PM | How about we avoid the personal attacks on JT for now (Score:1)
Don
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It's disappointing and mystifying to me as much as anybody else, but I'll make a plea for people to avoid character assassination here. I think he deserves that much.

As always: Michigan isn't for everybody.


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August 11th, 2010 at 5:17 PM | Thanks Don (Score:1)
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Some people don't fit in some places; a Michigan Man will replace Turner on the defence.

"delusions of granger"

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:52 PM | Damn (Score:1)
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Usually, when one of our players transfers, I comment with a "best of luck, hope you find success elsehwere."  In this case, I am not so sure. 

From everything posted here, the main issue with this kid was a lack of motivation.  Again, based purely on what I have read here, he put on bad weight and there were reports of him showing up out of shape.  If this is all true (and right now, we don't know), than I don't feel bad for this kid.  He was given a great opportunity and he didn't want to put in the work necessary to maximize it. 

If there are other reasons (bad fit, too far from home for him, family issues back home) that we do not know about, than I hope that he can work through those issues and succeed somewhere else, but if the issue was just that he was not willing to work hard, then he doesn't deserve our well wishes. 

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:53 PM | I can't feel bad either. This (Score:1)
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I can't feel bad either. This isn't like McGuffie leaving. If he can't succeed here, I don't know where he will.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:57 PM | based on what exactly?  is (Score:1)
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based on what exactly?  is there anything more than his listed weight?

 

i hope you can resolve whether or not a college kid deserves your well wishes.  thats critical

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August 11th, 2010 at 2:37 PM | He was from Ohio so I don't (Score:1)
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He was from Ohio so I don't think distance from home was a factor.

I believe this is just a simple case of lack of ambition, motivation or desire to get better. It happens all the time in real life and is not specific to sports only. A lot of smart and talented people suffer from this self-satisfaction. It's call complacency.

Anyway, good luck to you J. Turner! Too bad it didn't work out at Michigan.

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August 11th, 2010 at 4:21 PM | If this was about lack of ambition or desire then (Score:1)
wolverine1987
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 2572

why transfer? He could just show up, do just enough work to keep the scholly, and stay for years. I have to think there is something else behind this.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:52 PM | This is a pretty bad blow. If (Score:1)
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This is a pretty bad blow. If Woolfolk or Floyd go down, I'll be biting through my fingers. Cullen, please be great.

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August 11th, 2010 at 5:19 PM | I got a feeling... (Score:1)
clarkiefromcanada
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Cullen will be great. I need to feel this way today as it keeps the dong from hurting.

"delusions of granger"

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:53 PM | Disappointing (Score:1)
Wolverine96
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This is very disappointing news as we are losing depth and potential.  Even worse is this adds to the tin-foil hat's arsenal of half-truths saying that RichRod runs all the talent out of the program.  See Mallett, Ryan, Cissoko, B., to name a few. 

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures. "

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:55 PM | Cissoko ran himself out of the program (Score:1)
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He has his own ass to kick.

They mostly come at night... mostly.

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:01 PM | Yep (Score:1)
Wolverine96
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but his flame out along with the transfers of McGuffie and others are still brought up as "evidence" that RichRod is incompetent.  The more that situations like this can be limited, the less noise will be out there from the tin foil hat brigade. 

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures. "

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:53 PM | I agree this hurts, but it (Score:1)
gremlin
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I agree this hurts, but it hurt more to me when J.T. Floyd stepped in for Cissoko last year instead of Turner.  At that point I knew he was overrated as a recruit. 

Avery, Terrence, and Christian can hopefully fill the two-deep this year. 

That being said, I wish him all the best.  Hate to see guys leave Michigan.

 

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:53 PM | Not only disappointing... (Score:1)
oakapple
Joined: 02/06/2009
MGoPoints: 1188

...but unclear as to why it happened. Ordinarily, Cornerback is a position where excellence in high school ought to translate fairly readily to excellence in college.

Marc Shepherd
New York, NY

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:03 PM | CB (Score:1)
snowcrash
Joined: 07/22/2008
MGoPoints: 1360

CB has a shorter learning curve than most other positions, but Division I receivers are still far harder to cover than high school receivers.

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:55 PM | Please transfer outside of (Score:1)
silverslugger
Joined: 07/07/2009
MGoPoints: 476

Please transfer outside of the Big "Ten".

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August 11th, 2010 at 12:56 PM | That's a.... (Score:1)
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...nice tie that JT's wearing in that picture.  I guess he can store it away now.

LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | Maize Pages Wolverines on Twitter | @MGoShoe

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:13 PM | The tie may be gone. But the long sleeves might stay. (Score:1)
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August 11th, 2010 at 12:58 PM | Please? (Score:1)
twhalliii
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Joined: 06/30/2009
MGoPoints: 138

Can I just have some good news? Once? Something positive? Someone with potential who grabs the team by the straps and becomes a great leader, guiding the team back from the void? Anything? Hello? Please?

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August 11th, 2010 at 1:09 PM | A leader who grabs the team by the straps? It's RichRod. (Score:1)
might and main
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This news does suck, suCK, SUCK.  Effing A!  However, if there is any silver lining in it, at least we have a coach who demands his players give 100%. And holds them accountable.  If we can get over the hump and RR gets some security, I continue to believe he will bring greatness back to Michigan.


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