Cam Thomas: beware [Ben Solomon/NCAA Photos via Getty Images]

Hoops Preview: LSU, Round Of 32 Comment Count

Brian March 22nd, 2021 at 11:18 AM

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THE ESSENTIALS

WHAT #3 Michigan (21-4, 14-3 B1G)
vs #23 LSU (19-9, 11-6 SEC)

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WHERE Underground Printing Stadium
Indianapolis, IN
WHEN 7:10 Eastern
Monday, March 22nd
THE LINE Kenpom: M -6
Torvik: M –5.7
TELEVISION CBS
PBP: Ian Eagle
Analyst: Grant Hill

THE OVERVIEW

Michigan came through a 1 vs 16 matchup in fairly uninspiring fashion, getting outscored in the second half after racing out to an 18-point lead. We're going to chalk a lot of that up to Weird Guys lineups and assume that the guys will be less weird in a game that figures to be competitive for the duration.

In the second round Michigan takes on LSU, the third-place SEC team. LSU got an eight seed, defeating St. Bonaventure in the first round with an unusual display of defensive prowess. That prowess was built on a 3/20 performance from three that only enhanced LSU's extremely weird three-point D juju, about which more later.

The Cliffs Notes on the Tigers are pretty much what you'd expect: they get some superior talent and roll out the ball for them. LSU is the most isolation heavy team in the nation, and a very large number of their possessions are classified as
"pick-and-roll ballhandler" by Synergy. In this case that means "isolation, but with a screen." Also their defense is 62 slots worse than Iowa's on Kenpom. Will Wade, man.

THE US

Seth's graphic [click to embiggen]:

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No changes from last time out.

THE LINEUP CARD

Seth's graphic [click for big]:

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Note that the brick does not necessarily mean "bricklayer". Thomas is pretty efficient. It means "man this dude shoots everything."

[Hit THE JUMP for the rest of the preview.]

THE THEM

The headliner is freshman Cameron Thomas, a 6'4" shooting guard who was the #25 player in the most recent class and is ticketed for the mid-first round in the upcoming NBA draft. Sam Vecenie:

… high volume scorer who can get his shot basically at will. If you give him even the smallest bit of space, he can stop and pop from 3 with ease. He has a bit of a left-shot align that concerns some teams in regard to translation as it moves up levels, but his release is so quick and his range is so deep that I’m a bit less worried. The real concerns come everywhere else in Thomas’ game, as he doesn’t really impact it as a passer, defender or rebounder. This is a pure scorer, through and through.

Thomas gets little help from his teammates (20% of his twos are assisted) and almost never gets to the rim—15% is D'Mitrik Trice stuff—so there's going to be a blizzard of midrange jumpers and jacked-up shots. Thomas is very good in the midrange, hitting 41% on stuff that is almost all Some Bullshit, but he's shooting just 47/32 on the season. His efficiency comes from two things: he gets to the line a ton and hits 88% once there, and he has a rock-bottom TO rate for his usage. That latter is because he rarely passes and once cut off just pulls up to shoot.

Thomas does nothing other than score, which he does in bunches. He also provides a very high floor for LSU possessions since he's hitting 38% on off-the-dribble long twos. That won't win you games but as a last resort it's spectacular. Thomas uses those shots as first options far too often, on the other hand.

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Nominal C Trendon Watford—former IU star Christian's brother—is the second banana. Watford is more of a burly four at 6'9", 240, and was described as such by all scouting services. He's been dragooned into the center position because he's the only LSU player over 6'7" after Shareef O'Neal went out for the year with a foot injury.

Watford brings a little stretch (56 3PAs on season, hitting 32%) but spends most of his time inside the line, where he lives in the Trevion Williams zone:

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That's a guy who's effective anywhere inside the paint but cannot consistently get shots at the rim—about 60% of his twos are away from it. He's not an exclusively back-to-the-basket guy like Williams; he will post but he'll also drive from the outside or the high post, so a lot of his shots come off isolation or even PNR ballhandler(!) situations. This added up to 47% from two in SEC play.

On top of scoring, Watford does provide a modicum of playmaking. He is not a rim protector (his 1.7 block rate is about half of Franz Wagner's) and has pretty bad rebounding numbers for a center. An on/off check to see whether LSU drops off when he's not on the floor is not possible because he is always on the floor.

Watford's faced a total of 13 post-ups this year, so your guess is as good as anyone's about how he is about defending them. Probably not very good. It says something about something that an SEC center with a reputation as a terrible defender is graded on almost all spot-ups and isolation situations. That league just did not post at all.

Combo guard Javonte Smart—infamously the subject of a "damn strong" offer from Will Wade captured on an FBI wiretap—is the third improbably efficient high-usage chucker. Smart is hitting 42% of his threes and under half of them are assisted. Grimace dot emoji. Smart does more point guard things than anyone on the roster but still has an assist rate under 20 and a TO rate that exactly matches that assist rate. Like the other two guys he's good in the midrange.

Smart gets to the rim significantly more often than Thomas and matches his percentages both at and away from the rim, so Michigan might be better off pushing usage to the first round draft pick, who will hunt any and all shots. His teammates are more circumspect about what they'll put up.

Stretch four Darius Days is the one guy on the roster who absorbs a lot of assists. Days is 6'7", 245 and extremely athletic—see the posterization at 45 seconds in the above video. He gets to the rim a fair bit, converts 78% there while generating a fair number of his own buckets there, and is shooting 67/40 with a slight majority of his shots from outside the arc. He's a double-digit OREB guy and has a low TO rate. He's an offensive powerhouse.

Brandon Johns just about matches days for size and athleticism but has been a questionable defender at Michigan. That's largely been about knowing where to be and switching effectively. One on one he's done okay for himself. If Johns is able to limit Days usage—keep him off the offensive boards in particular—he can be a cipher on offense and still massively help Michigan's chances in this game.

The bench kind of starts here? No other Tiger has more than ~16 minutes per game and everyone past the top four is in the Wallflower Usage Zone. 6'6" wing Aundre Hyatt has started the last 10 games so he's your not-quite-bench guy. He… uh… exists. With just 48 twos and 34 threes on the year he doesn't have much sample size. FWIW, he's hitting 56/29 and chips in some OREBs.

The actual bench:

  • Freshman PG Eric Gaines gets a third of LSU's minutes and has been spectacularly miserable, shooting 25/18 with a TO rate near 30. Michigan should be endeavoring to have Mike Smith out there for all of Gaines's minutes since he's little threat to shoot over him, unlike everyone else on LSU.
  • Freshman wing Mwani Wilkinson is on the opposite end of things. He is super efficient because he gets up 7% of LSU's shots when he's on the floor; almost all of these are dunks or layups off of assists or putbacks. He's shooting 83% and has the #1 ORTG in the country because he barely meets the 40% minutes cutoff. Wilkinson is a bouncy athlete who's a threat on the offensive boards and will block some shots.
  • Junior PF Josh "Matt" LeBlanc is pretty much the same as Wilkinson: tiny usage, everything's at the rim and most of it is off assists or putbacks.

Wade will power through foul trouble with his big three because they can't afford to have much time with any of them off the court. The general response is to make their defense even more porous and live with those consequences.

THE TEMPO-FREE

Left offense, right defense:

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The left side adds up to Kenpom's #5 offense despite checking in 338th in assists per field goal made. Will Wade has found a team that matches his coaching style.

Defensively, things are a bit of a mess. There's the SWAC-level rebounding and a dearth of turnovers forced; LSU is 223rd defending twos. And the thing they do best is probably random chance. Will Wade's four years at LSU have seen them finish 286th, 231st, 290th, and 327th in the number of threes they allow opponents to get up. Opponent 3P%: 193rd, 134th, 252nd, 14th.

Since three point defense is notoriously unreliable we'd want to see some sort of mechanism that would create such a radical improvement. There doesn't appear to be one related to LSU, but there is one about their schedule: the SEC on the whole shot 33% from deep, which is 22nd amongst conferences. The Big Ten shot 38%, by comparison. Meanwhile, LSU opponents have hit 32% of three-pointers Synergy considers "unguarded". They've given up 256 of those, 9.1 per game. For comparison Michigan's given up 106, 4.2 per game. (Michigan's also been lucky on those as opponents have hit just 30%.)

I don't think the three point D is real and it's going to be less real if Dickinson is kicking the ball out for good looks.

THE KEYS

Control what you can control. LSU's going to run a ton of iso after hunting a switch or two, and a lot of the shots they're going to get up are going to be functionally un-contestable. They'll either go down or not. So what can you do? Keep them away from the basket, insofar as you can given some height and athleticism gaps. Keep them off the free throw line. And rebound. M can't do much about the first two of the Four Factors listed above, but they can do something about the OREB rate and FTA rate.

Note that a thing Michigan cannot control is the officiating, and if they get a couple of calls like Dickinson's gotten on completely innocuous screens that'll be tough to live with. A full-on Texas Southern whistle and they're boned.

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wrecked Trendon Watford [Campredon]

Ruthlessly exploit the post. LSU's post-up D numbers are extremely shiny on Synergy but that's low sample size in a conference where the best opposition big is… Colin Castleton? Appears so, as Castleton was the only guy over 6'6" to make either all-SEC team. Castleton scored 21 on 13 shooting possessions in Florida's game against LSU. Watford responded with 21 on 22 because he hit a couple threes. He was 5/16 inside the line. Castleton's improved a ton this year but I don't think he would have been starting over Dickinson if he stayed.

If Michigan can consistently get the ball to Dickinson LSU is going to have to double. They've already done that on about half of their post D possessions even against mostly SEC opposition, and they'll no doubt choose that over exposing Watford to foul trouble and also having Dickinson sit on his head. That'll lead to kickouts, and that'll lead to…

Make open threes. …more of those 9+ unguarded threes per game. Michigan's hitting 38% on the season and is actually better at guarded triples (40%), but that's probably noise. Michigan still has four shooters surrounding Dickinson—Brandon Johns, you are a shooter—and will have plenty of clean-cut looks from deep for them. Ohio State first half == win. Ohio State second half == loss. Something in-between is probably good enough?

But yeah I don't see a way that this game is not heavily dependent on a three-point lottery where Michigan gets a lot of great looks and needs them to go down.

Stunt/help relentlessly. You can float off of whoever the fifth guy is, and you need to dissuade isolation drives from getting all the way to the basket. That might mean some pack line principles—in this case having secondary perimeter defenders "stunt" off their guys for a step or two to try to get drivers to pick up their dribble or force a turnover—would be of use. Anything that migrates fouls from Dickinson to anyone else would be good.

Get weird? Putting Franz Wagner on Aundre Hyatt seems like a total waste. On the other hand I'm not sure if he can stay in front of Smart or Thomas. How can Michigan best deploy the most disruptive defender in Big Ten play? What does that look like? I have no idea.

THE SECTION WHERE I PREDICT THE SAME THING KENPOM DOES

Michigan by 6.

Comments

UMFanatic96

March 22nd, 2021 at 11:37 AM ^

Alabama did it twice...It was only the third matchup that was close. Looking at LSU boards, it seems like if Thomas is hitting his shots, that's when they're really tough to beat.

Michigan needs to utilize its size advantage and work the post. Even with Wagner, he needs to drive and get to the bucket. 

Defensively, they'll have to live with some junk going in. But as the preview notes, it's better to force LSU to beat you with those than with layups and free throws.

bluesalt

March 22nd, 2021 at 11:35 AM ^

Three non-passing high usage guys, and 1-2 guys on the court you can always ignore? This feels like a game the zone-to-man defense just sticks in a zone.

TrueBlue2003

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^

Uh, no, that's the worst thing you can do against a team like this.  Zones are somewhat easy for good players to find seams in.

Stick to man to make sure you have someone on the good players at all times (and also that's the defense that you've run so well you're top 10 in the country so you know, do thing you do well) and just help aggressively off the guys you don't have to worry about.

JamieH

March 22nd, 2021 at 4:23 PM ^

No.  With chuckers, we need to rebound.  Zone is notoriously bad for rebounding.  Man up, don't foul, expect some ridiculous shots to fall--rebound the ones that don't.  

Michigan LOVES to encourage "bad" 2's, and LSU LOVES to take them.  So......let them fire up bad 2's all game.  

cookie1012349

March 22nd, 2021 at 11:53 AM ^

Put Hunter on Hyatt and Franz on Watford and treat this like Pete Nance and NW. I don't know if its a great option but anything to keep Hunter out of foul trouble. 

bronxblue

March 22nd, 2021 at 11:55 AM ^

Feels like a weird game but also one where UM should be the favorite.  Michigan can keep up offensively with LSU and I trust UM on defense more than LSU.  This feels like a game where coaching goes a long way and I trust UM's over whatever Wade thinks he can do during the game.

ehatch

March 22nd, 2021 at 11:57 AM ^

Why do I feel like this is going to be an MSU #2 replay? They will throw up a bunch of junk that goes in, while we miss wide open 3 after wide open 3. I only watched some of LSU's game against the Bonnies, and they couldn't hit wide open 3s either -- I think they were 0/9 at one point.  

The Victors

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:08 PM ^

Regarding how to utilize Franz defensively -- I would put him on that 5th guy (Hyatt) and have him really help off of him. While Franz is a great on-ball defender, he may be an even better help defender.  Let him be aggressive in help defense on Thomas, Days, and Smart.  When Thomas puts the ball on the floor, he's not passing, so you could almost double him once he starts to make a move.

Against a team like LSU, just make sure they're taking the tough shots and not getting easy ones. Don't send them to the line and REBOUND.

Also, Hunter needs to be more patient in the post. He has rushed since coming out of quarantine, which has led to turnovers. With the way refs have been calling this tournament, just go up strong without elbows and you'll very likely get FTs or an easy layup/dunk when they don't want to pick up a foul.

lhglrkwg

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:10 PM ^

Hopefully these refs don't start handing out pity offensive fouls because Hunter and Austin have the audacity to be big

Why this LSU team is even eligible for this tournament is the pinnacle of NCAA incompetence

BlueInGreenville

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:20 PM ^

I'd feel a lot better about a game that's dependent on us making open threes if Livers was playing.  Wagner and Johns need to hit some outside shots, and I don't have a great feeling about that happening.

TrueBlue2003

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:21 PM ^

It's not entirely luck that Michigan's "open" threes have only gone down at a 30% clip.  When you stick to the good shooters like glue and back off the bad ones like a well-coached team does, you'd expect to see something like this.  But that's more likely to be the case for a team like Michigan that does limit threes than for a team like LSU which lets a lot of threes get up.

Sambojangles

March 22nd, 2021 at 5:34 PM ^

I think you have it backwards. Defensively, Michigan has been “lucky” that opponents have shot below average on open 3s. The post you responded to is implying it’s not just lucky that our opponents have shot 30% instead of 38%, but coaching and shot selection: we’ve allowed bad shooters to be open, and contested against good shooters. He was not referring to the M offense, which is indeed full of good 3PT shooters. 

Basketballschoolnow

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:23 PM ^

So...basically they have Marcus Carr and Dwayne Washington at guard, Trevion Williams at center, and Liddell at stretch 4?  Sounds like we don't have a chance!

But then...they can't guard anyone on the other end?  Maybe we can eek it out.

Seriously, we should get whatever we want on offense.  Will we be able to stop them?  I have no idea, but it certainly seems as if we should be getting much higher percentage shots.

MGoBlue96

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:23 PM ^

I would definitely say they are boned if Dickinson fouls out again on dubious calls and is allowed to be fouled with impunity on the other end. The officials need to be better than that clown show against Texas Southern. On Dickinson's end he does need to be quicker and better about making proper decisions when the double is coming, that's been issue ever since coming back from the break. But seems like the type of game that with LSU's very porous defense if they make open shots they probably win regardless of whatever LSU advantages may be.

 

UMFanatic96

March 22nd, 2021 at 1:36 PM ^

Agreed. There were multiple instances in the game against TSU where Johns was trying to pass it to Dickinson in the post. TSU sagged off Johns to essentially double Dickinson before he even got the ball.

I'm hoping if LSU tries something similar, Johns can confidently take and knock down the 3

80blue

March 22nd, 2021 at 12:44 PM ^

Can we have a Happy Meal bag or a Scummy McScumbag cloak for Will Wade? I’d rooting hard for Izzo in a death match, and that’s sayin something. 

AWAS

March 22nd, 2021 at 1:07 PM ^

Both teams need officials from major conferences to avoid too much refshow with mid-major officials not used to the size and athleticism of P5 conference players.  This often exposes reliance on one player, or lack of depth. As Rafftery says:  "Let them play!"

WorldwideTJRob

March 22nd, 2021 at 1:17 PM ^

Brian can classify these guys as chuckers...but they are bucket-getters to me! The one thing we’ve struggled with all year is big guards having their way on the perimeter. Watched this squad a few times this year and they can go, their defense has actually improved as the season moved along too. Carr, Crubelo, and Washington gave us fits this season. Thomas and Smart are just as talented as all those players.

UMFanatic96

March 22nd, 2021 at 1:20 PM ^

Carr, Curbelo, and Washington aren't really comparable. Curbelo is only 6'1 and is more of just a quick guard. Carr and Washington are 6'2 and 6'3. 

LSU's guards are both 6'4/6'5. I'd say the better comparison is Maryland as their guards were more in that height range.

The difference being LSU's guys are better than Ayala and Morsell. 

FreddieMercuryHayes

March 22nd, 2021 at 1:33 PM ^

Normally, I would love to play a team that just takes isolation jumpers and allows a lot of threes, but man, I'm also super nervous in any game whose opponent's strategy is 'allow them to shoot at hopefully they miss'.  Just a crap shoot. Especially with Livers out.  Blah.

MGoMort

March 22nd, 2021 at 1:35 PM ^

Wonder if Juwan's and Howard's NBA experience is an advantage in this matchup given how much ISO the league runs? Hopefully bodes favorably for us tonight. 

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BuddhaBlue

March 22nd, 2021 at 1:43 PM ^

Some more tournament team rankings

  • Smart is the 3rd highest scorer in the tourney at 22.6 ppg on 30% usage, and is the 6th best 3 point shooter at 42%
  • 6th highest scoring team per game at 82, 5th best offensive efficiency (UM is 6th)
  • 67 out of 68 teams in points allowed at 75 ppg
  • allows 26% of opponents' shots in transiton, 64th out of 68 teams
  • allows 65% of opponents' shots at the rim, 2nd worst in the tourney
  • allows opposing teams' 51% 2pt FG%, 3rd worst in the tourney
  • 7th best 3pt% defense at 30%
  • but allows 44% of opponent shots taken from 3, 65 out of 68 teams
  • scores 7 points less away from home (avg. is 5.5)
  • allows 5.8 points more away from home (avg. is 4.1)
  • plays a bit more zone than most tourney teams (18% of the time vs 8% average)

They've got some talented individual players and stylistically this will take some time for either team to suss out the other. I mean, they probably have not seen a team like us either

Could go many different ways and that makes me nervous (as well as my shit talking SEC chanting friend from Bama)

fish on a hook

March 22nd, 2021 at 2:26 PM ^

Is this a game Chaundee should be getting more minutes at the two?  Would be nice to see a little more of he or Zeb’s height on d, but the offense flows so much better with Brooks out there.   It is a challenge when both you 1 and 2 are a bit vertically challenged.

Sultans17

March 22nd, 2021 at 2:28 PM ^

I was all set to get outraged that this team is still somehow eligible given the "damn strong offers" Will Wade seems to be allowed to make with impunity, but then I realized they'd have been replaced with a different 8/9 team...perhaps Loyola??  What a clinic by my 2nd favorite team (Yes, anyone who plays against Illinois this year). Never seen a point center before but Krutwig is a maestro. Fun to watch an artist performing his craft flawlessly. 

I'll take my chances with LSU.  If we played them 100 times we'd win 80. At the end of the day we just have to play well. Not our best. Well will do.

Go Blue!

Teddy Bonkers

March 22nd, 2021 at 6:08 PM ^

I was thinking Michigan might match up better against Loyola than against LSU. After Sunday I'm sure Illinois must match up better against LSU than they did against Loyola. I'm suspicious that Loyola should have been a 7 or 6 seed but selection committee decided to downgrade them to set up a Illinois match up. 

Baffin

March 22nd, 2021 at 2:35 PM ^

After this matchup, watch people say Florida State and/or Colorado is an even worse matchup.

Ooooh, Colorado beat Georgetown, a team with all that scary length (and a losing record)!

Heck, people will be worried about UCLA's "athleticism" if we play them. LOLing. 

It's the NCAA tournament and Kofi Cockburn just got manhandled by a guy who looks like a 60-year-old plumber who enjoys big messy sandwiches.

Anything can happen, but Michigan is good and they don't have a particularly rough draw. I'm just glad we don't have to face LUC or Oklahoma. 

Just hope the guys can sink their shots. Having veteran sharpshooters like Brooks and Smith gives me some comfort. 

Roy G. Biv

March 22nd, 2021 at 3:13 PM ^

I am very concerned about athleticism . . . LSU getting to the rim and drawing fouls, and getting offensive rebounds at will.  M needs fully weaponized versions of Wagner and Dickinson to exploit LSU's D.  

JR3410

March 22nd, 2021 at 5:11 PM ^

This is a tough one to figure out.  On one hand this seems like a massive mismatch for our guards.  All three have been getting beaten off the dribble lately and this just might be their toughest test all season.  On top of that, these LSU guards shouldn't have problems shooting over our guards. On the other hand,  I get a 2018 Texas A&M vibe from this game.  Yes this LSU team is a totally different makeup, but I feel going in there were similar concerns about the mismatches (Texas A&M Bigs, LSU guards) and overall athleticism.  At the end of the day, it was the skill, coaching and just the overall quality of the team that proved to be the most important thing.  Is that the case again tonight?