I like how it feels like 2007 all over again, only this time we don't have a coaching vacancy.
Hoke was top notch at this aspect of his job.
Why is your name all wavy, Wade?
Three years ago when Michigan was waddling about gently poking jowly coaches of the Midwest in search of their next head football coach, I relayed a ton of different things that hit my inbox about Kirk Ferentz and Jim Grobe and Greg Schiano and, yes, Brady Hoke. Many of them seemed ludicrous even at the time, like Michigan offering Ferentz a massive paycut to become Michigan's coach or Greg Schiano accepting the job before changing his mind (twice!), but are now part of what passes for the unofficial history of those maniacal three weeks. It was a weird time.
I tried to balance the inherently contradictory reports by relaying the things I'd heard and laying out what I thought based on those things, but from a distance of three years I think I made a mistake in my coverage. That mistake was assuming that all information being passed was a good-faith attempt to help Michigan fans figure out where the search stood at that point. It did not occur to me that while that assumption was probably correct about the people directly emailing me I had no way to judge the sincerity or connectedness of the people passing them information.
So. Any Michigan message board you pick has both shadowy insiders and now moderators throwing out Brady Hoke's name a "very serious" candidate to be Michigan's head coach. I've gotten the rumor myself from someone I trust, citing solid sources within the athletic department. But this is not then. I'm not going to rush to my keyboard and spit out all the reasons Hoke is not a plausible candidate for the Michigan job like I did three years ago.
I would if I thought there was even the slightest chance Hoke would replace Rich Rodriguez in early January, because that would be the most insane coaching switch of all time. This is not going to happen. Brady Hoke is not a serious candidate for the Michigan job. He is not any sort of candidate. If Dave Brandon was willing to hire Hoke to coach Michigan, Rodriguez would already be out the door because there would be a dozen people he'd rather have coaching Michigan than Rodriguez. Unless meteors hit both Jim Harbaugh and Rich Rodriguez, the chance Brady Hoke is Michigan's coach in 2011 is zero point zero percent.
Yes, single sentence paragraph time.
Do you know how I know this? Because three years ago the rumors about Hoke were heavy enough that I scurried to the keyboard to point out this was a guy with one winning season, that 7-5, at a MAC school. While he's a plausible candidate for the Minnesota job now, back then he wasn't a plausible candidate for the job he was actually at. If Ball State's job was open they wouldn't have hired a coach with Brady Hoke's resume. And yet there were rumblings from within Fort Schembechler that had everyone panicked, just like today.
The obvious conclusion is that there are people who know and like Hoke in the athletic department, who hate everyone else who's ever been rumored for the Michigan job, and there are credulous people willing to relay anything that comes from a person with a job in Schembechler Hall. None of these people are Dave Brandon.
Brady Hoke will not coach Michigan in 2011. You may resume your day-to-day lives.
I like how it feels like 2007 all over again, only this time we don't have a coaching vacancy.
I actually enjoyed reading each new instalment of Profiles in Heroism. And obsessing over flight tracker was so much better than reading for contracts.
I LOL every time.
Maybe it's just me, but every time I heard that 'Hoke to Michigan' meme I assumed it was either schtick or flame.
Good lord Brian you are going to be busy as hell if the collective lunacy of this board forces you to write articles on who is not going to be our head coach next year. By my estimation that would mean you're going to need to write something up on everyone not named Jim Harbaugh or Rich Rodriguez and that's a LOT of somebodys.
Thank you Brian. Sometimes the fan base needs to feel the back of your hand.
but, then again, my insider said the same thing to me three hours ago.
Guys, seriously? I was prepared to discount the first of you two as sarcasm (I think that the whole CC has cried my sarcasm meter - I don't even know if I am being sarcastic or serious now) but now that two of you have posted this, I am getting concerned. PLease, one of you resply "/s" to this to let me know that you are kidding.
I would actually be okay with that. He's had some interesting press in the last couple years, but look at his record in the ESS EEE CEE.
about Jerry Kill coming to coach Michigan. Any thoughts?
hard to Kill.
Well, as Minnesota's already hired a coach, nobody but Jerry Kill is a plausible candidate for that job, but the point is taken regardless.
It's single sentance paragraph time?
I missed the memo.
Damn, here i was hoping it was "T-shiiiiirt tiiiiiiiime"
Hoke will be the best fit at MICH. That dude knows what he is doing. Ball St. and SDSU are ASStacular schools and he won there, so I'm gonna say Brian is wrong this time. HIRE HOKE
This is your brain.
This is your brain on drugs.
You're an idiot.
and you obviously have sand in your vagina. Do you need a vacuum to suck it out?
On the vacuum issue, could you help him out in that regard? Or her?
I am in fact a vacuum cleaner salesman so yes I could
But what's your record in successfully vacuuming sand out of twats?
Wow... you've been an MGoBlog member for three hours and you're already pulling out the heavy weaponry of "sand in the vagina." Impressive!
The correct translation, according to Ron Burgundy, is "a whale's vagina."
Uh oh I sense a troll in the house!
Everyone should just stop responding and he will go away. I realize I did that which was a regrettable decision. Didn't think before I did it.
Did you miss the part where I said it was regrettable? And that I didn't realize the troll behavior at first? He was at like -3 when I responded.
I just don't understand the thought process of people who would actually think Brady Hoke is a serious candidate if RR was to be fired. Why they thought that in 2007 still does not make any sense now. People are weird.
I heard Brady Hoke can cure cancer, not sure if its true or not, but it sounds real.
In 2007 Brian mentioned he would be a better candidate. Do you think they would make him cut his hair if he got the job?
AD's at good programs don't make odd coaching hires and therefore Michigan won't hire Brady Hoke. That just isn't true. Auburn hired 5-19 Gene Chizik. Florida hired Ron Zook (I've never been a head coach at any level) coming off the 12 year Spurrier era. USC hired Lane Kiffin.
Whatever you think of Hoke, and apparently many on this board think he's awful (a position I don't share), is he really an odder choice than any of those hires.
but they were very different situation than UM finds itself in. I am unfamiliar with the Auburn situation but in both other cases the coaches left and the schools had to hire someone. Here we have a coach and I believe what Brian is emphasizing is no AD would take Hoke and ditch RR. Harbaugh may be better than RR (I don't think he is, but he may be). Most don't think Hoke is a step up from RR.
Again, in the Florida and USC situations, both their coaches were gone and they HAD to pick someone, but their choices definitely seem suspect to me as well. I have said before, AD's have been known to make mistakes.
In a vacuum, you'd take Rodriguez over Hoke. It's not a vacuum. It's the job at Michigan and it's within the realm of possibility that Hoke would do a better job AT MICHIGAN than Rodriguez. Not every school is the same.
If Hoke had given Michigan the exact same level of performance as Rodriguez has through his 1st 3 years, I'm curious what the reaction of this board would be? My guess is EVERYONE would want him fired. Rodriguez gets somewhat of a pass because this board supported the hire enthusiastically 3 years ago.
You're right, Rich Rod would get more of the benefit of the doubt than Hoke would. Why? Because when Rich Rod was hired, he had BCS bowl wins, conference championships, 10 win seasons, and 7 years of almost uninterrupted success and had turned his team into the class of the conference. Brady Hoke would have come in with one winning season, a 7-5 record at Ball State.
Given that, I would be proud to stay that Rich Rod had earned a bit longer of a leash than Hoke. Rich Rod has shown he is at least capable of turning a program into a national title contender. Hoke did not have that background.
You're comparing a team like WVU which had 2 undefeated regular seasons in 1988 and 1993 to Ball State which has never won a bowl game. There's a huge difference between the two. This doesn't mean Hoke COULD have done that.
Also Rodriguez's track record got a hell of a lot better when Miami and V. Tech left the Big East. Those 8 and 9 win seasons became 10 and 11.
If you have a good record, you get more slack. Rodriguez has at least proven that he can take a team to the BCS, beat out of conference teams, and overall is still regarded as an offensive innovator in CFB.
Brady Hoke has never been the head coach of a BCS program, has never been to a BCS bowl, and has no proven track record of success.
So of course Rodriguez would get more slack. That's like saying Urban Meyer or Nick Saban would get more slack than Brady Hoke: Duh.
Those guys all were hired after a coach chose to leave a program. You don't fire a guy who had three straight top-10 finishes at WVU so you can replace him with a guy who had one good season out of six at Ball State and finished ahead of the four terrible teams at the bottom of the MWC this season.
Tuberville didn't choose to leave Auburn. He was flat out fired.
Michigan isn't West Virginia. The Big Ten isn't the Big East. There's something called fit and, while it's apparent Rodriguez has gotten little support for his desire to change the culture of the program, it doesn't seem like he's helped himself along the way either.
A small example regarding fit: Do you think Hoke would have seriously recruited Demar Dorsey at Michigan? I would wager the answer is no because his time at the Michigan program told him he wasn't going to get into school.
If Rodriguez had not recruited Dorsey, we would be in the exact same position we are now. Unless you think the potential disappointment of people who follow recruiting too closely outweighs the chance to get an extremely gifted player on campus (a very dumb position to hold) there was zero reason not to do it.
I know Lloyd Carr "seriously recruited" Marques Slocum (for a few years in fact, even after he couldn't initially get into Michigan), Boubacar Cissoko, Kelly Baraka, Larry Harrison, and assorted other academic weak-links and/or non-classy individuals. Nobody gave a shit because they had already decided "He havez integrity is MEEECHIGAN MAN!"
If your point is that assorted dumbasses will give Brady Hoke the benefit of the doubt for things that any coach would do but won't do the same for Rodriguez, then I don't think it is a point that our AD should consider.