martinez going denard against k-state

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right now has 128 yards in the air w/ a td, and 241 on the ground w/ 4 tds.

victors2000

October 8th, 2010 at 9:46 AM ^

so he'll be around for a few more years. I'm already looking forward to next year's clash with the Huskers :) . Did you see all the hate signs for the Huskers from the Big 12 fans? It's going to be an interesting year for them...

mgokev

October 7th, 2010 at 10:41 PM ^

I'm glad our defense gets to practice against Denard.  Stopping Martinez should prove to be an easier task.

Also, is Jesse Palmer wearing a new Under Armour version of dress shirts? 

rtyler

October 8th, 2010 at 1:00 AM ^

Maybe that ESPN3D commercial where he gets ribbed for being "a husky kid" is getting to him.

"You know how they say the camera adds ten pounds... well in 3D it looks like it's maybe like 30 pounds."

-"But I'm exactly the same weight I was in high school!"

"Oh, so you were a husky kid, then..."

Wolverine In Exile

October 7th, 2010 at 10:47 PM ^

I think Neb is ready to roll through the North... the only thing standing between them and a shot to fight Oregon/Boise St/undefeated Big Ten team for the right to play Alabama is getting past that cross division game against Texas next week. Damn our conference is going to be good next year.

bighouseinmate

October 7th, 2010 at 10:55 PM ^

3rd quarter and they still had Martinez in to run more in the 4th. Maybe not stat padding, but definate overuse of a quarterback who makes your offense go when you are winning the game handily. What's funny is that Denard has been fairly even statswise rushing/passing in every game but BG, and that only because of playing less than a quarter.

Not saying Martinez isn't good, but IMO, Denard puts up 250/250 or better against KSt.

DJSwantastic

October 7th, 2010 at 11:00 PM ^

I have to say I love watching Martinez play but it's not the same as Denard.  He has great speed but he's really been able to rip straight line runs tonight because of the threat of Helu and Burkhead.  Denard will make people miss in space more often, read blocks better, and almost always fall forward.  Also, Denard's receivers are his greatest asset which gives the offense a different look all together.  I wouldn't trade the Dilithium for anybody in the country!

bighouseinmate

October 7th, 2010 at 11:09 PM ^

........Denard and passing. Martinez has a great receiver in Paul but doesn't use him, either because of scheme, or more probably, because his passing is limited. We have very good receivers and Denard passes the ball around to everyone, fairly accurately too. If we had a better RB, Denard's numbers could be even better, or be the same with better team rushing numbers.

I like Denard and RR's offense over every other offense and scheme in the country, with only Oregon's coming close.

South Bend Wolverine

October 8th, 2010 at 1:01 AM ^

I think a home-run running back (as opposed to the stable of good-not-great backs we've got now) would lead to Denard having a higher YPC, but fewer yards overall, as the RB would get more carries and would cover more of the ground on his own.  Shift probably wouldn't be too drastic, though - I have a tough time imagining an RB who was so amazing that Denard didn't take a sizeable number of carries in any given game.

Bag of Marbles

October 7th, 2010 at 11:18 PM ^

"BFeldmanESPN: Talked to an old NFL personnel guy who said he thought Taylor Martinez may be even faster than Denard.

 

David Ubben: 
Completely agree. Straight-line speed, it's Martinez."

Straight-line, like his spine.

sterling1213

October 8th, 2010 at 9:40 AM ^

Robert smith said almost the same thing on Sportcenter. How in the world can anyone not lose all credibility when they make judgments that are clearly wrong.  I hate how everything on ESPN is overstated to make it seem better than it actually is.  I know complaining about how bad Espn is old hat, but until a real competitor comes to the forefront we are stuck with their tired old nonsense.

bluebyyou

October 8th, 2010 at 6:53 AM ^

Being totally realistic, I think Nebraska could roll through most if not all of the B10 based on what I saw last night. Hopefully their run will continue, as there is something nice about having them join the B10 on a high note.  It will only add more strength to our already great conference.

I have never been to Lincoln for a game, but i have stayed there on a couple of occasions.  It is a very nice town and the stadium is very impressive, as is the University of Nebraska itself. If you have the chance to go to a game, take advantage of the opportunity.  Some good restaurants and very friendly folks, as you would expect.

GOBLUE4EVR

October 8th, 2010 at 7:00 AM ^

nebraska didn't get the memo that the spread doesn't work in the big 10... they'll be what the 9th team in the big 10 to run some version of the spread??? its going to be fun having them around...

The Mathlete

October 8th, 2010 at 8:45 AM ^

Was actually at this game last night and after watching Martinez live and Denard on TV, they are very different players. Robinson is light years ahead in passing the ball. As one of the previous comments noted, their big runs have been very different. K St was woefully out of position all night on defense and Martinez had to get past one level and to the sideline to break it open. On Robinson's big runs he has had to beat the second level and have featured a higher degree of difficulty. Martinez is definitely fast enough to make a lot of teams pay. I think Robinson is clearly the better QB with the ability to change directions, be patient as the play develops and have a highly competent passing game. Martinez is very good though. His touchdown on the opening drive of the second half when K St was only down 14 and had Nebraska in 3rd and 10 was the classic, incredibly surprising QB draw and he had no one around from the time he hit the line of scrimmage.

modaddy21

October 8th, 2010 at 9:23 AM ^

His 241 rushing yards tonight moves Martinez to No. 2 nationally behind Michigan's Denard Robinson for the season (yes, the nation's top two rushers going into the weekend are both green, second-year quarterbacks who weren't really expected to start before the season; all hail the spread), and his four touchdowns on the ground made him the national leader with twelve in five games. Martinez's 35, 54, 80 and 41-yard gains also pushed him past Robinson with a dozen runs of at least 20 yards, and increased his per-carry average for the season to 10.8.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Big-12-defenses-Taylor-Martinez-is-here-for-you?urn=ncaaf-275471#remaining-content

Raoul

October 8th, 2010 at 9:58 AM ^

Martinez is also ahead of Robinson in yards gained per attempt (rushing yards + passing yards/rushing attempts + passing attempts):

  • Martinez: 10.58 (1,397 yards in 132 attempts)
  • Robinson: 9.9 (1,913 yards in 194 attempts)

I believe Michigan's schedule has been tougher than Nebraska's so far, however, so these figures are hardly definitive.

Hannibal.

October 8th, 2010 at 10:55 AM ^

Kansas State's defense might be worse than anyone we have faced.  They hardly ever touched Martinez or made him make a move or escape a tackler on his long runs.  There were two or three unblocked guys on a lot of those that just didn't make plays and they didn't make the guy throw the ball downfield.  It's as if the defensive coordinator was too dumb to figure out that you have to scheme to shut down the run.  Robinson's long runs have always had at least a few huge blocks well past the line of scrimmage and not many unblocked guys.  And opposing defense since UConn have forced him to make lots of throws.

ChicagoB1GRed

October 8th, 2010 at 11:32 AM ^

and leave it at that until next year when they'll compete against each other in a super game. Michigan will be a more complete team then as the D should be a lot better. It's just really fun to watch them both.

Can't really compare stats either. DR is a bigger part of Michigan's offense from what I've seen. Martinez doesn't pass much because Nebraska hasn't had to, since they're run game hasn't been stopped.

Breaking many of the school QB rushing records as a freshman is QUITE an accomplishment given that he's following in the footsteps of Eric Crouch, Tommie Frazier, Scott Frost, and Turner Gill. That should tell you something. I mean, the guy's only a freshman.

One interesting fact. Martinez only played QB 2 years in hs before coming to Nebraska. He came out of the same hs class as Denard  but redshirted, so Denard's a year ahead in playing time.

Now that conference play has begun, we'll see who produces against the meaningful competition. We've got Texas and you've got MSU.

I'm guessing both players will have terrific seasons.