OT: Is Roy Williams turning into Izzo 2.0?
UNC is loaded AGAIN next year with elite veterans. Most Outstanding Player of the tourney is already coming back in Joel Barry II. This is like the third year in a row UNC is returning big time players after a phenomenal. Which the begs the question: Why are all these McDonald's All-Americans and top 25 recruits starting to stay more than one year? Also, could North Carolina be on the verge of a dynastic run of championships?
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-05-03/college-bask…
When has UNC ever been accused, or even suspected of paying players under Williams? It's not like their recruiting is even that great, with 24/7 composite giving them ACC rankings of 6, 3, 10, 5, and 5 since 2013...
As in better and more improved Izzo
You should've used IzzoS or IzzoS Plus
For all of the ring-kissing Izzo gets from the media, he has the same amount of NCAA Championships in 23 years as Steve Fisher did after six games: one. He had the entire state and much of the region to himself for recruiting, thanks to the Ed Martin scandal and ten more years of Michigan self-destruction, and still only closed the deal once.
Even after embracing the "dark side" after his blowout loss to Duke in the NCAA Tournament, he still can't win championships with the players he has bought the last couple of years.
Overrated...
Williams is twice as dirty as Izzo, but half as much of a prick. So maybe that makes them sort of equal???
I never thought I would hate a player more, then Draymond Green comes along.
Give me a break.
(Obligatory I'm a Michigan fan so I hate MSU comment)
The guy's a freaking hall of fame coach. If he had been the Michigan coach for the last couple of decades instead of the guys we've had (Beilein's very good, not great), he'd have a statue on campus.
Coach K (2001, 2010, 2015)
Jim Calhoun (2004, 2011)
Roy Williams (2005, 2009, 2017)
Billy Donovan (2006, 2006)
That's 4 coaches that accounted for 18 of the last 18 titles. Let's not forget John Wooden, Bobby Knight, Dean Smith, and Coach K who all won titles before 2000. Add Rick Pitino who in 1996 and 2013. And tack on another for Jim Calhoun in 1999.
So yeah, about coaches winning multiple titles...
Roy tends to get high 4*s, not 5*s (at least not the tip-top 5*s). So they are more likely to come back than the Calipari Specials.
I read not long ago that the last top five overall guy UNC got was Harrison Barnes, and that was like 7 years ago.
Granted, their recruiting has been more than fine ... but they don't get as many of the one-and-done super elites as people might think.
I fully expected this topic to be about complaining to the refs and/or media.
Roy Williams is always bitching about how he never has any McDonald's All-Americans.
Also, how is it Izzo 2.0 just because he doesn't have a bunch of 1-and-done kids?
Is Coach K a mixed between Cal and Izzo since he has guys like Greyson Allen and Amile Jefferson who play 12 years of college basketball, but he also has a 1-and-done like Taytum?
This is the weirdest rant I've seen in awhile. I think Williams should be commended for finding guys who can play quality college basketball and play 3-4 years at Carolina. But you should do some homework before calling all of them McDonald's All-Americans.
See where UNC ranks in recruiting every year...it may surprise you.
are very coveted prospects. None of them really have a shot in hell at the lottery, and only one, Justin Jackson, was a first round lock. Williams recruits this way specfically. He's always relied more on juniors and seniors than 1 and done guys.
I literally go to UNC right now and I still am annoyed that this thread is a thing.