Brady Hoke, bad ideas, WWII (metaphor), etc.
An offering ("BRADY HOKE IS FULL OF BAD IDEAS AND IS NOT A GOOD COACH AND HERE IS AN EXTENDED WORLD WAR TWO METAPHOR TO PROVE IT") from EDSBS:
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2015/10/22/9592710/brady-hoke-i…
It was posted mid-day yesterday on that site, but (SIAP) I didn't see it here. Hat tip to Touch The Banner.
October 24th, 2015 at 2:30 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2015 at 7:58 AM ^
Hoke seems like he'd make a fantastic program recruiter for a Power-5 school, as he's got a great way of relating to kids, or maybe a even good DL coach, but that's about it. If he ever goes back to being a head coach, he needs somewhere with minimal year to year expectations, somewhere where he can keep his head down and stay out of the spotlight. And not having a guy like Dave Brandon breathing down his neck would be nice as well.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 10:05 AM ^
think it will be power 5. Memphis, Tulane, Cinci. I think he could end up somewhere is that department.
October 23rd, 2015 at 10:58 AM ^
Is their guy getting fired or moving up the ranks?
Do you think Tommy T gets another crack at a P5 job after this season? He always seemed like an odd fit at Cincy.
October 23rd, 2015 at 8:09 AM ^
The comments section is hilarious in the article.
October 23rd, 2015 at 8:53 AM ^
There is some great stuff in the comments section, yes. Personal favorite was the answer to "If your program had to hire Brandon or Hoke, which is preferable?"
I agreed with this person's assessment -
October 23rd, 2015 at 8:17 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2015 at 8:25 AM ^
Did you honestly think this would go well?
October 23rd, 2015 at 8:27 AM ^
October 23rd, 2015 at 10:42 AM ^
Brady Hoke is a good man and a good football coach.
His conference coach of the year awards notwithstanding, the second clause in your sentence is incorrect.
October 23rd, 2015 at 2:21 PM ^
October 23rd, 2015 at 3:31 PM ^
In my world about 5% of coaches are great, about 10% are good, about 10% are bad, and about 5% are awful.
The other 70% are just mediocre. Not good, not bad... just middling and mediocre.
October 23rd, 2015 at 7:04 PM ^
A good/great coach is comprised of many factors, including but not limited to: motivator, recruiter, developer of talent, eye for talented coaches, communicator and a mind for the X's and O's.... Brady was good to great on several, but woefully average to bad on the rest. His player development and ability to identify coaching talent was god awful. Have you seen where his coaching tree landed and their prowess this year? Abysmal is the word that most readily comes to mind.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^
He's actually won three Coach of the Year awards: in the MAC (2008), the MWC (2010) and the Big Ten (2011).
OTOH, Lloyd Carr never won Big Ten COY, even in 1997. A lot of it comes down to how high, or low, expectations are for your program.
October 23rd, 2015 at 1:09 PM ^
did he not win it in 97? We were a fringe Top 20 team to begin the season.
October 23rd, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
The voters liked Joe Tiller for his 9-3 campaign.
October 23rd, 2015 at 1:26 PM ^
Nebraska and now Tiller? F the voters.
October 23rd, 2015 at 8:29 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^
a radio show and was asked what he would done in that situation. He said he wouldn't have punted the ball and would have gone for it. Given many of his calls at Michigan on 4th down, for better or worse, I think it is quite possible he would have and in retrospect, going for it does at least eliminate the doom we suffered while admittedly opening the door for a different kind of doom. It is not a #hottake. It is a reasonable one. He wasn't asked about the rest of the game and it is quite clear to listeners and pretty much anybody who knows anything about college football that Michigan would not have been in the game at all with Hoke as coach. That is why he is on the radio now. It doesn't need to be said. That is the #hottake in this situation and it is not funny or clever.
This is misdirected anger. It is spitting on somebody's grave who was partially a victim of a very incompetent athletic department just as we all were as fans. It is the inability to ackowlledge that yes, in hindsight, there may have been better options or other possibilities even if what Harbaugh chose to do was statistically sound. It is scapegoating. It is a number of things that I would expect from State fans but it should not be the Michigan way.
October 23rd, 2015 at 7:10 PM ^
Also, as EGD said, Brady says stupid things - when he was winning in 2011, he sounded folksy and down to earth, but in reality, he might not be all that bright.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^
October 23rd, 2015 at 9:13 PM ^
The issue for me is that if you go and fail (very likely unless you throw), no way the clock is 00, and MSU can loft the ball all the way into the end zone where something can, and often does, happen the wrong way.
Catch the punt snap, favorable outcome is virtually guaranteed. Wonder what Belichick would do. Parcells? Lomardi? Landry? Shula? Vermeil? Noll? Walsh? Grant? Stram? Madden? Gibbs? Schembechler? Hayes? Parseghian? Saban? Bryant? Spurrier? Broyles? Devine? Rockne? Dooley? Tressel? Holtz? Royal? McKay? Wilkinson? Osborne? Paterno?, and countless others.
Not one of those coaches would have done anything other than punt. Can this even be seriously debated?
October 23rd, 2015 at 10:29 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2015 at 8:33 AM ^
MGrowOld pointed this out last time and since "N" comes after "M" and my usename is "Njia", I guess I'm up.
I mean this in the nicest way possible.
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It's a simple concept to understand, really. Ask yourself the following:
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If the answer to all three is "YES" then rest assured, you don't need to post it. It's been done already. Probably more than once.
October 23rd, 2015 at 9:16 AM ^
Thanks for picking up the gauntlet.
You know how some websites make you hit "confirm" or something before they let you hit submit? And how those sites will sometimes give you a pop-up with some sort of warning that you have to check-off to acknowledge you understand the warning?
I think we need one here as well. Whenever somebody wants to create content for the board there ought to be a pop-up that appears when somebody hits save that says:
"PLEASE CHECK THE TIMESTAMP FOR YOUR NEWS. IF IT'S OVER ONE HOUR OLD IT HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED."
October 23rd, 2015 at 5:31 PM ^
I enjoyed it and I wouldn't have seen it if the OP hadn't put it up.
October 23rd, 2015 at 9:58 AM ^
An economics professor and his student are walking down the street. The student sees a $20 bill on the ground and says, "Look, there's a $20 bill on the ground." The professor, without looking down, replies, "No there isn't. If there was, somebody would have picked it up already."
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October 23rd, 2015 at 8:33 AM ^
I don't mind seeing Jane get a bit of extra exposure, but this has been on m.go.licious for at least a day or so.
On the EDSBS piece, I think we can take Jane's metaphor even a bit further. Brady Hoke himself was like an "air bridge" to save Michigan. Maybe OK on paper, but really doomed from the start.
October 23rd, 2015 at 9:16 AM ^
Made me laugh.
October 23rd, 2015 at 9:18 AM ^
I hope Hoke lands another coaching gig soon. With a great OC and better position coaches, I think he'd do well. If he can get his future team to consistently play like his Michigan teams against Ohio State, look out!
October 23rd, 2015 at 9:31 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
October 23rd, 2015 at 5:35 PM ^
Yeah. Nussmeier sucks.
October 23rd, 2015 at 7:14 PM ^
He didn't do squat at Michigan and was let go at Bama... not sure what he's up to at Florida, but I thought it was their D that was driving their win total this year.
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October 23rd, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^
that wasn't viewing game film with him and providing "insight and direction" for the team. For that alone, I think he's deserving of another chance as a head coach somewhere. He truly had the boss from Hell with DB.
October 23rd, 2015 at 12:16 PM ^
This is really silly. Its Hoke's fault if DB had any influence on actual coaching. Think about this question - Do you think Harbaugh would have allowed DB to have any influence on the product on the field?
October 23rd, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^
But it's a form of hostile work environment when your boss is looking over your shoulder and in your ear 24x7. Hoke's too nice a guy to tell DB to shove it. He's such a nice guy he went along with the "took the job without asking about the pay" story that DB wanted to peddle at his introductory press conference so he sounded just like Bo when he was hired. Hoke seemed to do better at Ball State and SDSU where I would assume the AD kept his nose out of Hoke's coaching. I think he learned a lesson here and deserves a shot somewhere (not saying a P5 school) to try being HC again. It will be a risk for a school to do that, but he may be just the right guy based on circumstances.
October 23rd, 2015 at 7:17 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2015 at 9:44 AM ^
If Hoke could come back as an assistant coach in a few years he would. We all feel bad about last Saturday but think what it's like to be him. He had his dream job, now it's gone and isn't coming back. He must second guess himself every day, still. Michigan is his dream school & he wishes he could be a part of the staff now, but realizes that's not possible. I know he made a lot of money at UM & is certainly no charity case but he must still feel like cr*p about how his world came crashing down. I think he still wants to be part of the University but can't at least now.
October 23rd, 2015 at 10:02 AM ^
think he will be back here in any capacity man. Before last year it could have been a possibility, but last was, well, you remember last year.
October 23rd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2015 at 10:49 AM ^
October 24th, 2015 at 2:49 AM ^
I'll bet you his dream job isn't being subordinate to Harbaugh and being reminded of what might have been every time a Harbaugh-led team wins a game, a conference title, or a championship. Having to take orders from someone who replaced you is galling or do you think that Hoke has absolutely no pride??
If you truly believe in this fantasy of how Hoke's ego is subsumed by his love for ALL THINGS MICHIGAN then explain why a multimillionaire like him isn't say, offering his services as a volunteer in the athletic department to help his old team out?
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October 23rd, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^