Revisiting Pre-Season Expectations

Submitted by swdodgimus on
With the Washington Post jerking it's knee towards our first year national championship in the wake of Mormon Destruction 2015, I wanted to step back, take a breath, and revisit my expectations for the year. I said 9-3 with Michigan stealing a win in Utah. Without that, I said 8-4. I saw losses to one of the rivals, Penn St, and Minnesota. With our dominant defense emerging with a sometimes competent offense, buoyed by a vastly improved line, I now say definitely 9-3, even with the Utah loss. We're not losing to the two YSU's (Yakeyy Sax Universities), but weird things happen in Happy Valley. What say you all? How are the recent results dictating your current expectations?

UMForLife

September 30th, 2015 at 10:54 PM ^

How about this? MSU is obviously worse than UTAH. I am tired off people propping up MSU because they outplayed us two years in a row. UTAH kicked Oregon's ass at Oregon. MSU played them soft and won in the last drive. So, UTAH is better than MSU as of right now. It can change if MSU shows improvement. But, as of now, UTAH is a better team.

Saint_in_Blue

September 30th, 2015 at 7:48 PM ^

I said 8-4 before the season and I'm sticking to it. I figured before the season we'd lose to BYU as well. I still don't think this team is good enough (as it stands right now, but who knows in two weeks) to hang with either MSU or OSU. And we lose an annual "shocker" to either to PSU or Minny. But whoever we get in a bowl game is gonna in for a butt whoopin.

turtleboy

September 30th, 2015 at 7:51 PM ^

While Rudock is a fifth year senior grad transfer, when Michigan flew in to play Utah he'd been practicing in our new offense for only 1 month. Now he's been in the offense, and in games, and under Harbaughs wing for 2 months, and he's experienced the full spectrum. I expect the offense to continue to improve, and maybe even try a few more downfield passes. Possible we win out if that happens, because our possession offense doesn't live/die by the qb.

Moonlight Graham

September 30th, 2015 at 7:50 PM ^

I was at 9-4 including the bowl game, whether the regular season ended 8-4 or 9-3. At 9-3 we'd face a tougher bowl opponent; at 8-4 we'd get an easier matchup. I have a hard time seeing more than two more losses on the schedule. Either we beat everyone but MSU and OSU or we let one slip away, say NW just before Staee or PSU just before OSU, and take out our frustrations. But I figured we'd be 3-1 at this point all along so I'm trending the 9-3, lose the bowl game (to a Bama, Ole Miss, LSU or Georgia) route. This could encompass a NY6 bowl, btw. Ole MIss got into the Peach Bowl at 9-3 with baaaad losses (last year's models of LSU, Auburn and Arkansas). Our losses could be to the top 3 teams in the country when the first CFP committee rankings come out.

These are my pre-season expectations ... revisited.



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EGD

September 30th, 2015 at 7:59 PM ^

Before the season, I predicted 9-3, with the losses coming to BYU, MSU, and OSU.  When we lost to Utah, I then figured 8-4.  But we made that up by defeating BYU, so I am back to 9-3.

While my "expecations" haven't really changed, I will say that the team has shown it has a much higher ceiling than I anticipated.  I didn't really think M would be a serious contender for a B1G title or playoff spot this season, and I figured that wins against MSU or OSU--though possible--would be major upsets if they occurred.  Now, MSU looks like a 50/50 game and OSU would be a modest upset.  

Eastern Wolverine

September 30th, 2015 at 8:05 PM ^

No one wants to bet against Harbaugh right now. No one. Seriously, would you? How uptight are all your OSU/MSU friends (or foes) right now? Too much improvement week to week in this football team. Of course the majority of us are pessimists after the last how many years? Obviously someone is willing to bet against Harbaugh/UM or Vegas odds would be different. Having said all this, 10-2 is most likely in my book. MSU is overrated and we all know it but don't want to say it. They sorely miss Narduzzi. OSU will improve as the year goes on however. It's going to be tough to lose just one more game but this coaching staff is elite and again, how many of us would bet against them?

wahooverine

September 30th, 2015 at 8:17 PM ^

Definitely wouldn't bet against this staff.  We have a punchers chance, since we'll be ready for each game and have a great plan to win it week.. What people don't account for are chaos, such as key injuries (knock on wood, god-forbid, etc.) and crazy stuff happening like turnovers during games with other well coached and equally (or more) talented teams. Maybe the light goes on in Rudocks head and he Brian Grieses it the rest of the way, or maybe he has another off game or two throwing a couple int's and has a solid but not Playoff level year.  In any case, I think 9-3 makes sense.

The Dirty Nil

September 30th, 2015 at 8:13 PM ^

I thought 9-3 before with losses to Utah, BYU, and Ohio state. But I honestly think Michigan has a VERY good chance to go into The Game with one loss. I'll say 10-2 to finish the regular season.

Dunder

September 30th, 2015 at 8:22 PM ^

Oddly, I want to see this team crunch somebody, anybody, (yes even Maryland) on the road before I increment my thinking. I know that seems a little nuts, but while the staff is a clear and significant improvement, the group of players have never provided any stretches of consistent excellence and they have been, particularly, susceptible to clunkers in games that should have been road wins.

Yes, everything about the last few weeks suggests they should crunch Maryland, grind out a win against Northwestern and face MSU at 5 - 1.  But everything about the last eight years says anything more than 7 - 5 this season is gravy.

 

AA2Denver

September 30th, 2015 at 8:30 PM ^

I'm a major homer and predicted 1 loss. I put money on Michigan to win it all at 60-1. Embarassed to say how much considering I'm very middle class and have never bet or gambled before in my life. Beers on me if we win, I guess.

Nitro

September 30th, 2015 at 8:36 PM ^

I predicted 10-3 (after bowl game) because I didn't expect Harbaugh to disappoint (figuring 9-4 would still be somewhat disappointing given our talent level).  Since Harbaugh has this team performing even better than I anticipated, I'll bump it up to 11-2 now.  We look good enough, particularly because of our defense, to beat anyone, but it's still always difficult for a team to perform up to it's capabilities every single week, and we still need to show we can beat a good team on the road.  Can't say which game I think it would be, but I think we'll end up having one bad day where we get burned by turnovers.

Although I guess 11-2 would imply that the second loss would prevent us from making the B1G title game.  Since I don't have a specific game in mind for a second loss, I'll just say 11 or 12 wins and 2 losses.

I'm looking forward to line between 2 and 3 losses being a general threshold for defining whether a season was successful.

Chitown Kev

September 30th, 2015 at 8:43 PM ^

1-1 in the MSU/OSU rivalries (likely scenario there was a loss to MSU and a win over OSU.

 

I'm between 8-4 and 9-3 now...a bit on the 9-3 side with a WTF! loss in here maybe to Indiana.

Mojave Gold

September 30th, 2015 at 8:49 PM ^

Let's chill the heck out.  I want to be a big underdog to "unassailable" MSU and then kick them in the gut.  Let's embrace the underdog mentality for once.

Blue Durham

September 30th, 2015 at 8:52 PM ^

I originally posted 10-2 and have not wavered. I never thought Hoke was qualified for the job, and posted numerous times that the team was progressively worse under him. His awful coaching and player development cost this team numerous wins. Harbaugh is the antithesis. a Despite the pressure, I am not budging to predict 11-1. I am sticking with my preseason prediction of 10-2. Harbaugh is damn good... but he ain't perfect.

drjaws

September 30th, 2015 at 8:52 PM ^

I said I'd be thrilled with an 8-4 season with a win against OSU or MSU or both. I feel the same

But if the trend in the first 1/3 of the season continues all year, and future seasons, in terms of competent play, decent fundamentals and quality coaching, I see 9-3 with 10-2 likely. The future is bright



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Danwillhor

September 30th, 2015 at 8:53 PM ^

I won't change that. Look at the hit Rudock took to the knee last week. How he wasn't hurt, I dunno? I know we want to RS Morris but you can tell how badly the staff knows a damn poor Rudock is still a better option. So, consider what one injury could do to the team. That's fact, not pessimistic. With health I'd still guess 8 wins (possibly 9) and I think we could get 3 more wins if I were paying QB (lol) so a minimum of 6.

drzoidburg

September 30th, 2015 at 8:55 PM ^

I honestly had no idea at all what to expect from this team, only an educated guess of which games would be toughest. Given the new coach and grad transfers, this was the most clueless i've been since 2008. I suspected the offense would be much better than last season, because Hoke was so inept, but it's also a lot to ask players to quickly unlearn 2-3 years of awful coaching. So my expectation was 7-5 worst case and 11-1 best case. Now i'm thinking 8-4 worst case and the best case is a lot more realistic

MGoRedemption

September 30th, 2015 at 8:56 PM ^

Said 8-4 in the preseason. Still saying 8-4.

We will fight to the bitter end vs the rivals but it's hard to see us beating teams that have been built for years compared to a first year Harbaugh cleaning up the Hoke mess.

Also i feel like we will trip up to either minney, psu, or northwestern. We're better than all of them on paper, but two are on the road at night (and we seem to be cursed in those games). 

That said, the team looks better than anticipated especially the defense. But you have to remember, Utah moved the ball on us pretty well. I will hold off on calling them a great defense till they continue to shut down bad offenses, hold sparty under 20, and force more turovers. 

uminks

October 1st, 2015 at 12:20 AM ^

that well on us now. We shutdown their running game, except for the QB! Also, I think it was the secondary's first game and may not have been playing UT receivers that close. Now the secondary is doing well with man to man coverage. I think we would beat UT if we played them next week!

Muttley

September 30th, 2015 at 9:00 PM ^

Opponent Win Likelihood
@Utah 0%
Oregon St 100%
UNLV 100%
BYU 100%
@Maryland 90%
Northwestern 66%
MSU 45%
@Minnesota 83%
Rutgers 95%
@Indiana 90%
@Penn State 83%
OSU 27%
Expected Wins 8.8