Hello: Jake Rudock
[Patrick Barron]
It didn't take long for "Rudock waiver approved" to go to "Rudock to Michigan." ESPN's Dan Murphy:
Confirmed that Jake Rudock plans to be at Michigan next fall. Story coming soon.
— Dan Murphy (@DanMurphyESPN) April 1, 2015
Rudock's 2014 stats were briefly addressed in the previous post: 61%, 7.1 YPA, 16:5 TD:INT. He faltered late and was pulled from the lineup for CJ Beathard, not that Beathard did much to inspire confidence himself. If the Rudock problems are Rudock problems then Michigan has a meh starter—still a huge win. If they are Greg Davis/Kirk Ferentz paleolithic goober offense problems, Rudock could be one of the better quarterbacks in the league next year and help the Harbaugh era off to a good start. Either way it's a massive relief.
It's Jake Rudock.
I'm fairly confident that 16 TDs and 5 INTs from the QB position will get this team 9-10 wins.
"has thrown more TDs in college than everyone else on the roster combined"
Listing this among his assets makes me wonder if you're being sarcastic.
I assume you know the current roster has 0 TDs and 5 INTs combined right?
Um, I've thrown more TDs than everyone on our roster combined.
Awwww yeah
Perhaps rather than lulzing you can consider if the the post makes sense
But to get to your point, your post seemed a little ill conceived. No one is slotted as the starter in 2 years. No one is for sure slotted this year. The right guy will get the ball, don't you worry.
Carry on with your day.
With the reported openness of the QB race in spring practice, I doubt JH has penciled in two guys who have yet to join the program as his next two starting QBs.
I like O'Korn from what I have seen but I am not presuming he will start. Guys like Malzone and Gentry will have 1 year in the system. Speight 2 years and Morris 3.
That said I do think there will be attrition after this season. I do think O'Korn has a better than average chance to win the spot a year from now if his SO year was just funky and he reverts to freshman form. But this far away not going to assume he starts.
Malzone, Gentry, Speight, and Morris will all have 1 year in the system. At this point it, unfortunately, seems unclear if Speight and Morris' previos time in the previous system was helpful.
I expect a transfer before the 2016 season, but it could just as easily be O'Korn if he arrives this year and then realizes that any number of QBs already on the roster are in front of him going into the 2016 campaign.
the best looking QB through summer camp. Rudock may be the best QB on the team by the end of August and then he will start. O'Korn may be the best QB next season and then he will start '16! There's a chance that none of the Hoke QB recruits will ever be starters!
It's a valid concern:
in 2015...
Rudock - 5th year senior / 2015
Morris - Junior / 2015 2016
O'Korne - RS Sophomore / 2016 2017
Speight* - RS Freshman / 2015 2016 2017 2018
Malzone - Freshman / 2016 2017 2018 2019 (assuming he RS this year)
Gentry - Freshman / 2016 2017 2018 2019 (assuming RS this year)
+ any other qbs Harbs recruits
That's a lot of QBs.
Seems like everyone could get a year as a starter. Of course if an underclassman jumps the seniority ladder, you'll see the older players leave.
2015--Sr. Rudock starts
2016--Sr. Morris or Jr. O'Korne starts (Morris only transfers if he isn't the #1 backup in 2015)
2017--Sr. O'Korne
2018--Sr. Speight (based on nothing I'm guess Speight gets jumped by Malzone or Gentry.)
2019--Sr. Malzone or Gentry
2020--Sr. Peters.
There is also the Matt Cassel scenario. HARBAUGH could build pro QBs even if they don't start in college.
Seems like everyone could get a year as a starter. Of course if an underclassman jumps the seniority ladder, you'll see the older players leave.
2015--Sr. Rudock starts
2016--Sr. Morris or Jr. O'Korne starts (Morris only transfers if he isn't the #1 backup in 2015)
2017--Sr. O'Korne
2018--Sr. Speight (based on nothing I'm guess Speight gets jumped by Malzone or Gentry.)
2019--Sr. Malzone or Gentry
2020--Sr. Peters.
There is also the Matt Cassel scenario. HARBAUGH could build pro QBs even if they don't start in college.
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Wouldn't that mean that all this talk about competition for spots is bogus? They are still in the competition and a guy who got benched at Iowa (I know his stats look promising) shouldn't scare away guys from competing for the job I'd hope.
2-3 years playing experince >>> unproven guys with sketchy practice reports.
Everything else is just speculation and the competition will play itself out.
I fully expect the QB position to remain a battle royale next season and may the best man win. That may mean that Jake Ruddock isn't our starter if someone else takes control. While that would be bad for Ruddock, it might be good for Michigan. That being said, we now have a wonderful safety net no matter what.
What I do think this opens up is the possibility of future flexibility. If Ruddock claims the starting job and is in line to play well enough that he takes 90% of the snaps, I would love to see Speight as the first back-up off the bench for those few plays where one is needed. If there was a chance to get Morris a 5th year and/or get Malzone a redshirt then they should try for that.
University of Michigan Jake! Wear the winged helmet with pride. Go Blue!
[A: Brennan Beyer (11/23/2013)]
That's going to be a bastard of a trivia night question this fall
First Wolverine to score on a pass from Rudock gets it away from all of those tricky technicalities...
To me, this is all about competition. The position has gone from "OMG, the sky is falling" to "well-stocked and experienced" in a couple of months. It would be nice to go back to the "good old days" when QB's were routinely redshirted and emerged from the pack to start as juniors or seniors.
All is well in Ann Arbor.
Harbaugh knows what he's doing when initially faced with a deficiency at a certain position.
To having two experienced upperclassmen, with the caveat that one can't play this fall.
A huge upgrade of the QB roster in short order.
In 2016 we'll have:
1 senior (Morris)
1 4th-year junior (O'Korn)
1 3rd-year sophomore (Speight)
2 freshman or sophomores, depending on whether they play this fall (Malzone, Gentry)
Plus likely an incoming freshman.
That's a balanced roster with some options.
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO REDSHIRT MAKE YOUR TIME.
oh, wait. . .
Let us hope it is indeed a Greg Davis/Kirk Ferentz problem...
Allz da QBz
This has to be a real coup given the uncertain status of the quarterback on the team.
Go Blue!
Multiple pages of Michigan bitching and moaning from RCMB in 3,2,1......
Doubt they are talking much about a Michigan QB transfer right now, you know with the whole Final Four thing they have going on. Also the Connor Cook thing, he is rather good.
Already a two page topic.
So, my understanding is that someone who has graduated and still has eligibility can transfer immediately to a school with a graduate degree not offered by your previous school.
I looked at the graduate schools at Michigan, and see what looks like about 200 different programs. Many would probably not be up Jake's alley (dance? women's studies? theatre, drama, engineering, etc.) I'm kind of assuming that many graduate programs have a requirement of certain undergrad degrees before you can enroll in the graduate program.
So, several questions:
- What did he study undergrad (and thus, what would he qualify for.)
- What are the admissions requirements for Rackham grad programs?
- Do you typically finish a graduate degree in one year? Or, is Jake on his own if he wants to continue a graduate degree program after this year.
Yeah, like said above, it makes me think of the infamous OSU "I didn't come here to play school" quote. Still, I'm curious, for those of you who are in Rackham, either as a student or administrator, how this process will work.
Currently a graduate student right now. I'm in the accelerated MSW program so it is 3 semesters (September-August). We've had a few football players enrolled in our program in the fall, but currently none of them are around taking classes this semester, so there is that.
I remember reading that Rudock wants to go to Medical School, and that there is a one year prep program that is offered to students through the graduate school to prepare them for the program. That is just something I read, but from all accounts it sounds like Rudock is serious about getting his graduate degree.
I wonder how strict they are about what constitutes a "different program." Just by way of demonstration, if Iowa offers a Masters in Urban Planning, but Michigan offers a similar degree say with a stronger concentration in transportation planning or urban design or something, does that count? My guess would be no, but if he is going a medical route, I wonder if offering different specialties or concentrations apply when asking for a waiver. Graduate programs can be pretty specific across schools, even if they result in the same degree in name.
Now, about Rackham, many programs are 30 credits or less. Coming from engineering, myself and a lot of people I know finished in one year. Now, that's going to be very difficult to do as a varsity athlete, but not impossible, especially if they allow you to double count bachelors credits (they do from UM not sure for transfers.) After a year I assume he's on his own, but if he's really interested in med school, I hope he's thought about that.
For admissions, I know people that have gotten in sub 3.2 with good recommendations. So between the burden of being a scholarship athlete and at least a 3.0 (all big ten requirement) he would likely have a good shot at getting in even if he wasn't joining he football team.
Thank the goodness of Mother Earth, Gaia, the lovely gentle goddess that nurtures us all.
a lot
Awesome. He is a proven BigTen starting QB, which is something that we didn't have on the roster until now. If he wins the job - then it clearly benefits us. We need wins now. If he doesn't win the job, then he would be good for competition.
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