What's the next step we can take re: getting rid of Brandon?

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Sunshine Blower: A person who tries to convince you of something, knowing full well that it's bullshit. They are figuratively blowing sunshine up your ass.

Also a clue that you should intentionally ignore everything else that person says.  

Getting rid of Brandon is about a lot more than W's at least for me. Plus, why wait? He has given more than enough reason to be terminated in the past 5 years, there's no need to give him more opportunity to damage the program.

Little secret: Michigan sold like 5 tickets to the BW3 Bowl last year. This is like that student boycott last week--it's not really an act of protest to just do something you already do.

We generally don't travel well to crappy bowls though, so it wouldn't be much different than normal.   

 

The really crazy thing is that next year shakes out to look really promising regardless of the coach. I suspect with the schedule well be 10-2 with hoke.

If we wait that long to hire a new AD and football coach, unless you get a Harbaugh level coach that kids will just flock to in the final 2-3 weeks before NSD, there will be no recruiting class to speak of. All but maybe 2-3 guys could jump ship, and no one wants to come here when they don't know what coach there is or what scheme they will be playing under. You think the void left by the departed 2010 class was bad? This could be a whole lot worse. I just don't see us taking that long to institute change.

Even if DB survives, I can't envision Hoke lasting long past the OSU game. DB would see the importance of getting a head start on finding a new man. Not to mention the fact that he would literally be run out of town if he even thinks about retaining Hoke.

n a universe where the AD isn't a complete asshat and we wouldn't be worried about getting him out, Hoke stays until 12/1 when the PC is announced that he's "resigning *winkwink* " and that M will be conducting a thorough search beginning today (12/1).

In a universe where the shit hit the fan prior to sept, the AD gets canned last spring or summer, M hires the new AD then. Hoke drives the goddammed bus over the clif and he get's canned 12/1 (or even mid season with the Morris fiasco or losing the team).

Either of the above is typical, of course, but due to the timing of everything hitting the fan in Sept, M is screwed. I think what will happen is that Brandon holds on for dear life and let go at some point b/t 12/1 and 12/15. Either way, I think Hoke stays on due to this timing:

• If Brandon gets let go prior to 12/1, there is no one to fire Hoke, in a way. The interim guy/gal could do it, but in reality you want the new AD to make such a decision.
• If DB gets shitcanned after 12/1, M will need time to find the next guy and get him/her in, evaluated the situation and look for available coaches-

Either way it means a new coach is likely hired after the new year, probably around 1/15/15. Now, this may not seem like great news, but given the fact that the Harbaughs are NFL coaches, they may not be available until then anyway and the timeing could serendipitous (<--- holy shit I spelled that right). Best case, IMO:

1. Hoke doesn't lose the team, may squeek out a bowl, maybe not (not really important at this point considering the big picture). Team seems mildly compeditive for 1/2 to most of the game time at OSU, MSU. Probably beat 1 or 2 out of IU, NW, Maryland, all compeditive tho.
2. Brandon is let go 12/1 (monday after OSU game); the people rejoice. However, everyone wants to get rid of Hoke b/c obvs, but we have an AD seasch to complete 1st.
3. New AD announced before Xmas (I'm assuming "feelers" have alread been extended as we speak) - a fast process to be sure. New candidate likely has M ties as has been discussed.
4. Hoke fired AND New HC announced 1/15, at same PC. It's not Mullen b/c UF scoops him up prior to bowl season.  But it could be a Harbaugh b/c the timing lines up with the Reg season ending and coaches shuffling b/t 12/28 and 1/15 or so. Weird to have a joint PC, but the timing and the "Michigan way" of not firing a coach/having a "smooth transition" make it look like a thoughtful, competent process (for lack of a better word).

A lot of this will depend on the new AD being up to speed on the disaster that is the football team, but given the likely candidates, I don't think that will be a problem. Items 1-100 on the new ADs to-do list will be related to the coaching search for football. But, if the person is competent and familiar with the situation (again, I think exploratory convos are already happening via unoffical friends of the U and the potentails ADs), this is doable. Likely, the new HC will be named before the AD can even get his name plate and family pics on his/her desk.

The alternative is either A) keeping Hoke on for 2015 which is COMPLETELY INSANE for 2 reasons: 1) Hoke has no contract after 2015 and 2) WTF DO I EVEN NEED TO SAY IT?

or B) canning Hoke in Dec without an AD. I guess this could happen, but IDK how the potential AD candidates would appreciate that and then you essentially have no HC and no AD- I mean, that's a rudderless ship if I've ever seen one.

MGoBlog publishing an interview with him is 1000x more

If Hoke loved Michigan as much as he says he does he would resign after the OSU game. I can't even stomach the thought of him coaching this team another year. 

Good or bad there will be no knee jerk reactions. That is very clear.

I find those a little hard to believe . . . because Brandon usually does reply (often in a hostile manner) to emails.

 

So Hoke the problem, but you trust the guy who hired him, to hire our next coach? Got it.

Then nothing will happen to Brandon. He will be doing his job and will be retained. Our win loss record be damned.

I'm sitting on a donation letter myself. I will always support Mott's but everything else is on hold until changes are made.

I will suggest that the holding back here while well intentioned will not make a difference. People know what needs to happen, the question is all about timing.

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They gave themselves a 10 day extension at the end of the initial 5 days. They emailed me today to ask for an address to which to mail the response, which I provided.

I believe only one sitting Regent is on the ballot.  They serve eight-year terms and aren't all elected together.

 

Are you seriously insinuating that people should cut back on academic donations?

Eliminating donations to the Athletic Department is a great start.  I'm sure they review monthly, their plan vs budget.

HOWEVER, how about also:  Don't buy Michigan licensed products for a while.  I'm sure not purchasing a new jersey and hat, or new t-shirt and man-cave banners will begin to hit our suppliers like Adidas and others in the coming months, and they along with the lack of licensing fees to the department, will start to be noticed.