Poll: How much did this week change your opinions on our leaders?
The biggest debate on the board these days seems to be between the pitchfork posse and the "you wouldn't care if we were winning" brigade. Now that we've had a couple days to process things, I thought I'd propose a poll to inject some data into the discussion. What would you do to Hoke and Brandon if we were a winning team? Please try to be honest. I'll keep things open until Rutgers kickoff, then try to whip up a diary with the results.
http://goo.gl/forms/mbrgVBjZg8
EDIT: Changed the thread title to be a bit less inflammatory. Basically I'm just trying to get a gauge on how much this particular incident moved the needle for everyone, since we're arguing back and forth and no one's gotten any numbers yet.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^
Just shut up.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:11 PM ^
he changed the post.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^
C'mon man...
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:47 AM ^
I'd think we would care, call the coaches out and the AD.
But, it wouldn't be "the last straw".
However, what happend is the last haybale considering the multiple screwups by Hoke and Brandon and the record too.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^
But when it ended, Borges was gone.
They don't air the dirty department laundry, for better or for worse.
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October 2nd, 2014 at 11:47 AM ^
Make pointless threads
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:16 PM ^
It's especiially pointess because you can vote as many times as you want. I tried to check back to see the results, and HAD to vote again to see them.
October 2nd, 2014 at 2:04 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:48 AM ^
it would mean our coaches are competent.
We are not 5-0 and our coaches have little idea whats happening on the field to the point a QB so obviously not ready to start, started a game was injured and allowed to continue, ergo they are not competent.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:09 PM ^
If we were 5-0, Les Miles or Jim Harbaugh would be the coach.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:48 AM ^
If my aunt had a penis she'd be my uncle
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^
Not necessarily.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^
The Phall-o-meter, described by Anne Fausto-Sterling in Sexing the Body, is a metric scale. It enables assessment of acceptable phallus or clitoris measurements for boys and girls. For a girl, a medically acceptable clitoris can be no bigger than one centimeter. For a boy, an acceptable penis size must be between 2.5 centimeters and 4.5 centimeters. The range between one and 2.5 is unacceptable in either sex.Depending on standards of definition, it appears this population is between 0.1% and 1.5% of the total.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:13 PM ^
How the hell does that make sense? If your aunt had a penis the most logical question would be how she was doing post-op.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^
"Balls!" said the Queen. "If I had two I'd be the King." And the King laughed because he had too.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^
She could just be a woman with a penis that you never even knew.
Butterflies and hurricanes...
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:48 AM ^
Unicorns would be dancing at midfield.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:48 AM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^
You missed my point. Unicorns don't exist.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^
. Everywhere....
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:49 AM ^
...then Dave Brandon would try to get the team to wear camo uniforms with sparklers on the helmets.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^
If we were 5-0, that would probably mean that our AD picked the right head coach and that would probably mean that our head coach was pretty good. It would mean we wouldn't be treated to weekly trials of jaw-dropping stupidity every time the team took the field.
So if that were the case and things happened this way, it'd be easier to buy the idea that Brady Hoke honestly was clueless to Shane Morris getting drilled in the head or that he really was medically cleared to play. Hey its a one time thing, you know BH, he's always on top of things.
I would still want him to be punished to send a message that Michigan was serious about concussions, but I would generally understand that mistakes sometimes happen. However, with Brady Hoke, its not just a one time deal, its been pretty bad for well over a year. Thus, for me its harder to buy the sugarcoated versions of what happened where Brady Hoke was making logical decisions that led to a mistake.
As for Dave Brandon, he should just be gone. Fuck that guy.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:52 AM ^
What if monkeys come out my ass?
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:09 PM ^
Oh man, in that case, I would suggest you consult with a physician....or maybe a shaman.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:53 AM ^
We'll be lucky to win another game.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
I intentionally selected answers I don't agree with just to skew your data! Ha! In your face!
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^
Well, since you've been one of the loudest people on one side, all you've really done is discredit your own position. But troll on, if it makes you feel better.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:10 PM ^
I voted with troll responses too.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^
So did I. Everyone should!
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:53 AM ^
my brain hurts
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:11 PM ^
At least you still have a brain.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:53 AM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^
2011 says hi.
It makes me sad that that is all I got.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^
.............positive thoughts are NOT to last long on this blog...
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:27 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
The fallacy is in assuming the record and the Morris incident are unrelated. It's all part of the same list of Hoke's flaws. He's too stubborn, and he doesn't have enough awareness.
Against Utah, being too stubborn means we're using an obsolete punt formation, and not enough awareness means we're short a guy on the field. Result? Touchdown at a crucial moment, the floodgates open, we lose.
Against Minnesota, being too stubborn means we're still leaving Morris in even though he's got a gimpy leg and is just plain not effective, and not enough awareness means somehow nobody important sees him take a vicious shot to the chin, and somehow nobody tells the third string quarterback "you're now one play away from being in the game. Find your helmet." Result? Concussed player on the field. Also we lose.
Concussiongate isn't a momentary slipup. It's just the latest in a long pattern of behaviors.
And 99% of the things people hate about Brandon have nothing to do with the results in the box scores.
October 2nd, 2014 at 12:31 PM ^
I think the worst of Brady Hoke's flaws is that he hasn't hired enough assistant coaches who have the ability to teach our players how to block and tackle and other footballish things in a competent and effective manner more than once per offensive or defensive series.
Being stubborn isn't necessarily a killing trait if your team is competent at these things. Bo Schembechler could be enormously stubborn, but he could get away with it most games because his team was better at the footballish things than his opponents were.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^
At what point do we just say we don't have the right coaches? Hoke had his chance to make changes last year when the heat really came down on him from fans and he didnt except for Nuss. This is almost as bad as when Hoke says we are young every year as an excuse to get more time here or his supporters do. I deal with reality and we are 2-3. 5-0 would be great but based on Hoke's record he would probably lose 4 of the last 7 games or something and this poll would be what if he was 12-0 instead of 8-4...
He needs to go and we need to fix this mess starting with the AD.
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:55 AM ^
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October 2nd, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^