Does the Michigan Daily need to be added to the banned list?
https://www.michigandaily.com/sports/football/sportstuesday-jim-harbaugh-isnt-a-martyr/
Tom Mars trashes him in the Twitter comments too.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:30 PM ^
Add them to the list.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:53 PM ^
They should add you to the list
September 5th, 2023 at 8:59 PM ^
no you!
September 5th, 2023 at 10:18 PM ^
And, I will volunteer to be banned from this discussion.
This article is out of context and dumb, but cannibalizing and suggest banning our own, the Michigan Daily, is even dumber. Thus, this discussion is dumb.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:36 PM ^
Great personal attack.
September 7th, 2023 at 8:57 AM ^
You're right. It was pretty funny.
September 5th, 2023 at 11:08 PM ^
In Soviet Russia, list adds you!
September 5th, 2023 at 11:20 PM ^
If you have a blacklist, I want to be on it.
September 5th, 2023 at 11:35 PM ^
Agree. Northwestern exposes their coach as being extremely guilty of hazing and likely a racist and Michigan gets this clickbait garbage.
Guess which University has a journalism school?
September 6th, 2023 at 9:07 AM ^
This isn't RCMB. I don't think the site needs to "ban" a publication that writes an op-ed that doesn't fit our collective or majority opinion.
The sites and content that have been banned have generally had a long track record of false, misleading, trolling or "clickbait" content.
September 6th, 2023 at 10:50 AM ^
Pretty specious reasoning there buddy. Many Daily alumni are professional journalists now.
You're overreacting to a single column.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
No, it doesn’t. This was actually an excellent piece of journalism. I suggest reading it before getting offended by the headline.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^
There isn’t a good reason to ban any news source.
But the article is a stupid piece of writing that has nothing to do with journalism.
It’s an opinion piece that wants to take the team’s playful and fun approaches to honor their very much loved coach, and try to turn them into some kind of grand manipulative conspiracy.
The idea that McCarthy’s Free Harbaugh shirt is anything but a funny way to honor his coach is just stupid.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:40 PM ^
The author is clearly one of those holier than thou “well, actually…” kids that we all came across while in college
September 6th, 2023 at 8:50 AM ^
Definitely not one of the fun types
September 5th, 2023 at 9:27 PM ^
Literal lol at "excellent piece of journalism." STFU. This is a short, shitty, whiny opinion piece.
But to players, fans and other supporters, Harbaugh is revered for his willingness to stand up to the big, bad NCAA. That’s all reinforced by the posturing of Harbaugh’s supporters.
Pokes fun of the idea that the NCAA sucks and of course no mention of Harbaugh using presser time to advocate for revenue sharing. You know actual important stuff.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:54 PM ^
Swn, Your last paragraph does not correlate with the article. The writer actually does specifically address and affirm Harbaugh advocating for revenue sharing. You need to read carefully before such a hot and uninformed response.
BoFan, I enjoyed the humor of ‘free harbaugh’. It is a solid point that the article misconstrues the humor of the shirt as a serious stand for injustice - I acknowledge that.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:59 PM ^
He assumes Harbaugh is guilty when no evidence has been provided proving that he did.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:00 PM ^
He points out the allegations, and the fact that our own institution and AD acknowledged our mistakes. He is actually quite factual in the article.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:13 PM ^
We found the guy who wrote the article lol
September 5th, 2023 at 10:17 PM ^
I doubt it’s him but it could be his pops.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^
I have read about 15 posts on RCMB that were almost identical to this story - although I will credit him with using better grammar than the Sparties.
I get what this kid was doing here but he is trying too hard.
Banning newspapers is stupid but this OP did make me think about the fact that the Michigan Daily almost never gets posted on this site - which is interesting. Anyone have any theories on why? Quality of posts not good or maybe not timely?
September 5th, 2023 at 10:41 PM ^
Not a very in depth view on the topic. He broke the rules... Yeah so what. Many universities have and in most instances the NCAA response is inconsistent. That's the bigger story, the NCAA is broken and rule enforcement is a joke.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:42 PM ^
Our AD acknowledged the minor penalties that we never denied in the first place. The self imposed punishment wasn’t an admission of guilt to lying but a way to get these imbeciles off our backs
September 6th, 2023 at 6:42 AM ^
We contacted recruits at a time when they were in lockdown or shortly thereafter, that much is true. The rest is allegations that Harbaugh denies. This article more or less says that the team celebrates wrongdoing. It’s a shit hit piece.
September 6th, 2023 at 10:19 AM ^
Meh...it's very clearly an opinion piece. Yes, there are some facts. But also, there are a lot of suppositions about what Michigan, the players, etc. are trying to do.
The most egregious part, in my opinion, was letting the NCAA off the hook for talking about the case and then deriding Harbaugh apologists. If we're talking about facts...the NCAA shouldn't be talking to the media about the case, and Harbaugh is in fact prevented from talking about it.
He lost me before that, but that was the real tipping point that made me dismiss the article's points entirely.
September 6th, 2023 at 8:01 PM ^
He is actually quite factual in the article.
LOL! Name all of the "facts" in this paragraph, for instance:
It doesn’t really matter, because all these gimmicks are meant to do is paint Harbaugh as a saint, and the NCAA as the devil. They ignore the essential fact that Harbaugh allegedly violated NCAA recruiting regulations — including contacting recruits during a COVID-19 dead period. They also ignore that Harbaugh allegedly lied to investigators about those violations. Harbaugh tried to gain an edge on other programs, and he got caught.
It's a "fact" that these are "gimmicks" and that the author knows precisely what they are intended to do? Or is the fact here that the author just made that shit up?
How is it an "essential fact" that there are vague rumors of allegations against Harbaugh? Who is making the allegations that the author is treating as "fact?" A good journalist would never try to use this passive voice bullshit to smear a public figure.
This is shit journalism, only tolerable to read because the author is such an obvious tool that he includes such a pearl-clutching line as "[p]layers are protesting their own school, for god’s sake." That's a line that should never be written by an Daily writer ever. The rest of the train wreck that is this opinion piece never quite reaches that journalistic low again, but hardly for lack of trying.
September 6th, 2023 at 12:21 AM ^
The irony of him accusing Harbaugh of lying.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
Wrong. You're shaming me for not reading the article while literally making shit up. There's one mention of increasing revenues, not revenue sharing, and no mention of Harbaugh supporting revenue sharing.
I’m certainly not biased toward an institution that profits off of arbitrary rules levied against student athletes. I’m not arguing for a system that exploits those athletes for ever-increasing revenues
He then spends the rest of the article defending the NCAA and also ends by saying
So while it might be funny — even vindicating — to see players wear Harbaugh merch or pay tribute to their coach, let’s be real for a second. It’s corny, overplayed and outright wrong.
It's wrong? Like morally wrong for JJ to wear his number?
This "opinion piece" is click bait trash.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:07 PM ^
When Harbaugh started his post-suspension press conference by lambasting the NCAA’s lack of student athlete compensation (which, by the way, he’s absolutely right about), he completely dominated the narrative.
Read carefully.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:08 PM ^
Signing off. I do respect your opinion, swn; I just don’t share your indignation over this factual and well-articulated article.
September 6th, 2023 at 8:40 AM ^
The article actually tries to exonerate the NCAA from improperly speaking out about the investigation by citing the fan response to them doing so?
No, it is not an excellent piece of journalism. It is a pointless and terrible hit piece.
September 6th, 2023 at 10:30 AM ^
I thought we pretty much determined that the exception allowing them to correct misstatements meant that they weren't "improperly" speaking out?
September 6th, 2023 at 8:03 PM ^
Huh? Which misstatement by them were they correcting?
September 5th, 2023 at 10:35 PM ^
Joel Klatt's take on the Harbaugh suspension.
September 6th, 2023 at 9:23 AM ^
excellent piece of journalism
Do you keep your farts in jars to smell them?
September 6th, 2023 at 5:33 PM ^
how does that work exactly? is the gas lighter or heavier than air - open side up or down? Asking for a friend.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^
Every year in high school, some enterprising journalist would draw upon the ancient wisdom that “if engagement is down, a rant against the football program will go far.”
And thus the cycle continued. I remember the yearly “football is overrated, overfunded, and honestly people shouldn’t watch it anywhere” articles.
Anyway, this is a high school news kind of move from the Daily, and they should be ashamed of themselves.
As the man said, “uh uh, that’s bait”
September 6th, 2023 at 10:22 AM ^
At the end of the day, it's an op-ed and op-eds are pretty much by their very nature provocative and contrarian and controversial. Op-eds were click bait before there were clicks. It's literally no big deal.
This isn't journalism in the sense that it is a researched and objective relaying of the facts. Op-eds are literally the conveyance of one person's opinion on a particular topic with which they ostensibly have some semblance of expertise or familiarity.
September 5th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^
The author obtusely and probably intentionally avoids acknowledgment of the NCAAs inconsistent, arbitrary, and even corrupt administration of its own rules, which calls to the fact that his entire argument is flawed. Or he’s just rattling the cages to get some notoriety. Whatever.
September 5th, 2023 at 9:56 PM ^
Did you read the article? The author specifically acknowledges the inconsistency of the NCAA as well as their violation of their own rules.
September 5th, 2023 at 10:11 PM ^
Did you or family write the article? Your points are redundant. What are you exerting yourself over? Their opinions on the article are different than yours. It’s the interpretation of the written word. Let it go.
September 5th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^
Comments are flying around and IndyPete's defending his points. What's the issue? Don't see any instigation. In fact, he's done so pretty respectfully without any redundancy or exertion. No issues whatsoever. Your tone, however, suggests otherwise. Perhaps you should "let it go."
September 5th, 2023 at 8:37 PM ^
It doesn’t need to be banned but it doesn’t need to be linked either.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:29 AM ^
I'm new so full disclosure I don't necessarily understand the nuances of the rules around here, but exactly. It's my understanding that articles from particular writers have been banned but I did not see any mention that, for example, all Detroit Free Press articles should be banned because of Drew Sharp. And honestly even if I am wrong and it is banned, I still find this entire thread kinda hilarious in a dumb way. We're going to link to the article to make sure we all go and read it, even though it apparently irritated the OP enough that he wonders if the entire publication should be banned from the site? Color me confused.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:12 AM ^
Theres a saying in there somewhere. I just cant think of it right now.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:36 PM ^
drew sharp should be banned
his hot takes suck donkey balls
is he dead or what?