MSU Insider Put in CB to Michigan for 4-Star LB Jeremiah Beasley
I'm assuming this is a significant thing. MSU Insider Justin Thind put in a crystal ball today to MICHIGAN for four-star Belleville linebacker Jeremiah Beasley. He's ranked No. 319 overall; the 28th-ranked linebacker.
This appears to be a Michigan-MSU battle, so it's noteworthy that an MSU guy did this. He seems to be trending toward the good guys now.
That Mel Tucker recruiting operation is really coming together now. Why soon their class could be ranked in the top 50 nationally.
And Mel was able to have this recruiting operation up to speed so fast!
I'll take "Jobs that suck" for $500 Alex
"This person is paid to follow closely and report on Michigan State football recruiting"
What is "an MSU insider?"
mgrow, to answer that last question, a sparty 'insider' is like the guy who is cleaning out your septic tank at the cabin....
i have to imagine the smell is the same, too.
However, I doubt that septic tank comes with a 10 year guarantee at a cost of $10mm a year
In all fairness that's pretty close to the cost of a new septic tank/drain field
Which reminds me that I need to hire a Spartan alum to pump out my septic tank...
This sounds like a sweet gig. Get paid to do nothing.
Lead recruiting or follow it. Either way aint shit happening.
Where’s the threat
Pretty funny that MSU football is not much better off today than where they were when Harbaugh tweeted this in 2017....
Damn, I totally forgot about that. Now that's how you tweet!
Thanks for posting that tweet. Now I'm going to be stuck reading those for a while.
Justin Thind is a ridiculous Sparty homer so if he's predicting Beasley to Michigan then it's probably a very good thing.
Yeah, he likes to keep his accuracy percentage as high as possible, so this means people "in the know" have Beasley to UM and Thind copied their pick to make it appear he has a clue... he doesn't.
He also likes to keep his picks on MSU as long as physically possible to keep Spartan fans engaged
Which one-the Don wants to know.
Could it be possible that his MSU sources have told him that it's not happening?
He follows other's CB predictions. Can't remember where I saw it, but he put in a CB for some guy like 9 minutes after 2 insiders did. Wasn't even MSU.
He basically monitors CBs from other people and then once there's concensus or the kid is close to committing, he changes his prediction.
Yeah, I probably could have just written "Justin Thind is a ridiculous Sparty homer" and ended the post.
He literally started working for 247 while he was a student at MSU lol
I think this kid is going to outplay that ranking. He was injured his sophomore year with a torn ACL (I believe) when the first rankings came out and still wasn't 100% last year.
He is now 100% recovered and I predict a breakout to the top 150 this year - hard to move more than that even if it is deserved (a la Mason Graham or Aidan Hutchinson - guys that made big moves late).
I won't link the threads, but there were some scorching hot takes on this blog not too long ago about Belleville players and coaches...I bet the "Belleville players are overrated" crowd doesn't show up when Beasley commits.
Well, considering at least 99% of this blog wants Bryce Underwood to commit to Michigan, you're probably right.
Exactly my point. The whole Belleville situation was one the dumbest recruiting spectacles I have witnessed since I started posting on this blog. And, for the record, all parties involved share some blame (some more than others). I hope this "issue" is dead and buried but I always thought calling the players "overrated" or other things along those lines because no one liked Crowell was a bridge too far.
They were called overrated because you would be hard pressed to find any of their eight kids from 2018-2022 who were 4 stars+ on 247 doing anything of impact at the P5 level. What would you like that to be called?
underdiscounted.
I would assume the three biggest offenders you are referring to are:
- Andre Seldon
- Devontae Dobbs
- Julinan Barnett
You’re right, none of them panned out in college. But if they were so overrated as recruits, why would Michigan bother offering all of them a scholarship? Why offer one to Beasley and Underwood?
I do my best not to argue with anyone on here, so please see my post below. My discussion was about the rhetoric towards Belleville players when they were being recruited, not how their careers panned out. Obviously, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that their careers have been rather non-impactful.
People weren't calling Belleville players overrated because no one liked Crowell. People were calling Belleville players overrated because frankly Belleville players haven't done much in college despite their rankings. I think we're all hoping Beasley and Underwood break that trend
I don’t think you and I are looking at this discussion from the same angle. Yes, Belleville players have grossly underperformed in college. No sane person would argue otherwise.
I’m approaching this discussion from the rhetoric I observed while Belleville players were being recruited, not how their careers panned out. Let’s take Andre Seldon for example: Was it blatantly obvious that as a recruit he was overrated? No one on here when he committed was calling him that. Yet, on virtually every other thread about a Belleville recruit, all sorts of things were said. Regarding the latter, I thought it was a poor look at the time, I still do and that’s the only point I’m trying to make here.
It’s also feasible that Crowell inflated their recruiting profiles since he was a connected source with college coaches and people thought he was a reliable source. A lot of up and coming coaches do this to create a better resume for themselves. Saw it happen twice on a much smaller scale in SW Michigan. That doesn’t discount what they did as a team and Crowell could obviously coach them at a high level. The sum of the parts and all…It’s also possible that he just recruited freak athletes to Bellville who peaked physically too soon, which is why they were hot HS commodities. I hear what you are saying Brian Greise, you aren’t throwing shade but rather highlighting the overall sentiment of the board for 3/4 years or whatever….
Well since the head coach of Belleville, that caused all of the issues, is no longer there I don’t think you will see those same complaints.
But the unspeakable named coach did in fact coach Beasley for two years, right?
I mean historically, yes, Belleville players have underachieved, but Idk why you would be shocked by Michigan fans being optimistic about a 4* committing regardless of what school they attended
Griese, the fact is that many of the Belleville four-star players have turned out to be overrated.
That being said, it doesn't mean that every player is overrated...or that Beasley won't turn out to be accurately rated...or even underrated.
Both things can be true at the same time.
I agree with your response. As players in college they have been overrated. As recruits, maybe they were overrated, maybe they weren’t. I have no idea. But if there was a consensus that they were overrated even in high school, why was Michigan throwing their hat into the ring trying to recruit them?
Overrated may be the wrong word. Underdeveloped and poorly coached coming out of high school might be a better way to put it. The dudes they had were mostly ranked based on raw athleticism and the projection that they could be great once properly developed. Michigan believed they could take those raw athletes and mold them into big time players. So overrated is probably the wrong term because a lot of rankings are based on potential and their ability to be drafted after being developed at the college level. Most of them didn’t last because they realized they couldn’t just go out on the field and be the better athlete in college and they didn’t want to take the time to develop.
Take the time … and effort .. to develop. S&C in February isn’t necessarily fun. Some players are committed, others aren’t. That can account for a lot of the difference.
The ratings are a prediction of future performance...their players regularly under achieved so what do you call that? Properly rated?
But that was then...
NOW they are better coached and they might even be under-rated. :)
It's really just that simple
In response to the original OP..... The Thind CB means MSU was unable to change his mind during the recent MSU official. (MSU is the school that his brother (?) Malik Carr attends fwiw.)
M has had the lead for Beasley since Partridge got back and made him a priority. Thind actually just changed his ball from MSU to M today. His and the other remaining MSU Balls were from back in September 2022 so not a good indicator.
FYI -- This is the same MSU insider who notably implied that Beasley was overranked this Spring when it became clear M was leading, and that "smart programs like MSU" saw higher potential in other recruits like Cole Sullivan from PA. ...... If you are unfamiliar with that name -- look up "Michigan 2024 LB commitments" on any of the recruiting sites or this here Blog (though not in depth chart by class yet..)
replying to my own post since it is the end of a long day...
FWIW I think Beasley has "dropped" in the rankings in the last year -- mid 200s to 312 overall today -- but that is more of players moving up than him losing rating.
As noted by others before.. I don't think M coaches give a crap about rankings. Both Sam Webb and Steve Lorenz noted in last week's podcast that Partridge and M wanted Beasley more than Chiles if it came down to a choice. (I note Steve since we all know Sam has been known to "spin")
PS - I saw D. PalePale, The DT prospect from PA whom PSU had seemingly pried away from M is now getting Ballz to USC from M insiders... #cruitin'
Lol someone was talkin shit when I proposed this is why we took Wafle…people on here crack me up
So Tuck "cooled on him". Despite having him out for a visit recently.
Makes sense Sparty.
Tuck doesn’t have the opportunity to cool on anyone willing to go to MSU.
Lets lock down the state !!!!
You mean to say “Sparty aplologist Justin Thind…”
This must have pained him greatly…
I prefer the term Sparty slappy.
So, when’s this happening?