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The 2022 Recruiting Board 7/14 Comment Count

Seth July 14th, 2021 at 2:01 PM

Now that we are coming up on the next recruiting dead period (the one implemented by the NCAA because poor SEC coaches didn’t think it fair that Jim Harbaugh wants to coach football during their vacations), I figure it’s a good time to take a look at the state of the 2022 class, and Michigan recruiting in general. Scroll down under the board if you've been following along already and just want to read the editorial. The top of this post is for the people who only want to check in infrequently.

State of the Class

While lazy “hot seat” articles continue to lead with photos of Harbaugh, he and his staff are putting together a top-ten class with considerable upside.

In the last four weeks Michigan has added a high-floor pocket QB in CA 3.5* Jayden Denegal, one of their top RB prospects in SC 3.5* CJ Stokes, 3.5* Idaho flex TE Colston Loveland, 3.5* Quebecois OT Alessandro Lorenzetti, an Uche-like sleeper in CA 3* Kevonte Henry, new staff edge faves 4* Mario Eugenio and 3* Micah Pollard, 3* Belleville RB-turned-hybrid LB Aaron Alexander, and their top (presently realistic) remaining cornerback target, TN 3.5* Myles Pollard.

Before that they had two receivers pledged, silky smooth IL 4* Tyler Morris, a long-term Gattis target who might have been gunning for Bama/OSU before an injury locked him into his current status, and leapy MI 4* Tay’shawn Trent. The class is anchored by MI 5* legacy CB Will Johnson, seems set to hold onto Linguist’s TN 4* nickel Kody Jones, and carries over a pair of low 3*s from before the coaching makeover in MI DT Davonte Miles and CO OG Connor Jones.

All of the commits of the last month except Denegal (falling) and Alexander (an un-scouted recent positional convert) have been shooting up the rankings. In a cycle when there’s been a lot fewer opportunities than normal for late-emerging athletes to change the consensus pecking order, Michigan seems to be trusting their own evaluations more than ever. Their evaluations have also led Michigan to spend some time in the lead for various rising prospects who disappeared as soon as they reached the level where Ohio State and Bama are willing to lift more than a finger, or the super baggy programs like Georgia, LSU, and A&M, and Texas are willing to make it rain.

As for the earlier Hellos, there have been rumblings at times that each one might not make it to the finish line. Will Johnson and Kody Jones were most wobbly when Linguist left, but both recruitments were shored up, with Jones taking longer to be sure than Johnson. Miles and Jones might have been provisional at times, but are reportedly doing whatever it is Michigan wanted to see to keep their spots. I think that’s why we keep getting reports from Jones’s trainer about how well he’s coming along, though as one of two commits in the class, he can’t be in that much danger. Miles showed up to a camp in June and was about where Michigan wanted him to be.

There are a couple more players who could be on the verge of committing. They’re expected to add an RB/WR ATH Dillon Bell sooner or later, and the current commits think Cass Tech DT Deone Walker, a huge DT or possibly OG prospect who used the Covid year to reshape his body, will be along after he gets to experience the process. He named a top five today.

The staff recently expanded their boards at OL and DT after missing on some top targets. Those misses do not include the five-stars—elite WA OT Josh Conerly Jr., and super-elite TN DT Walter Nolen. I think Conerly is still projected to go back to his original Washington commitment, but a decommitment means the guy is in play. As for Nolen, I think we’re waiting to see if he comes to Michigan’s BBQ at the Big House or Alabama’s BBQ at the smaller house, or Florida’s BBQ at the swamp-ass house, or chooses to spend the last weekend before the dead period in his own house. He’s visited all of his finalists. They scoured the recent camp circuit for receivers too but couldn’t find many with reciprocal interest at this late hour. I wouldn’t be surprised if they turn up a Ronnie Bell as senior film rolls in.

The current drama, set to unfold in the next few weeks, is what they’re doing at middle linebacker, as two of their three top prospects are close to announcing, one tertiary prospect seems ready to jump if either of the above don’t, and a spot will be saved for a top-tier guy they hope to pry out of Utah regardless. The sense is one of the two guys they’re waiting on is going to Texas, and the other one might be leaning that direction unless the distance is too great.

Safety has been a bumpier ride than expected as various names seemed close to going blue then didn’t. There are still plenty of balls in the air however so we’re far from panic. A surprisingly good season could put them back in play for one or two elites. A surprisingly bad one (like 5-7 with another loss to MSU) and things could unravel a bit. A catastrophic season that ends with “yep, gotta fire Harbaugh, now” could punch some big holes in it, but there’s some optimism that this class could be more resilient than the 2011 one. It’s in far, far better shape than Hoke’s 2015 class was at this point.

The Guys:

Icon Name Meaning
Sad Josh The genre of player with unrequited interest in Michigan. Unlikely to receive offers; most will eventually fade off the list and go to Duke or Michigan State or something.
Nefarious Eduardo Player is a longshot. Either they've declared someone else a leader publicly or popular opinion holds that they're likely to go to another school.
Data Either no opinion or Michigan is one of a fairly even group of chasing schools. Players in this category maintain no leader or change their leader frequently. The default category for players that we don't know much about yet.
Happy Teeth Players who have Michigan in a small leading group or have Michigan as a tenuous favorite. Should be regarded as a good shot, not a slam dunk.
Mr. Blue Player is either a verbal or is expected to be one sooner or later. Players with this designation are 65%+ to be Michigan commits.

The order is my interpretation of how likely they are to commit and how many recruiting points are being expended. Prep school or IMG players are listed with their home states and then either the state their new school's in or "IMG".

A Note on "Stars": These are a general (not exact) average of a player's status among the recruiting services.

A Note on Premium Info: No illicit sharing of said material will appear on this site. Players are listed with interested schools in their profiles; this information is public. Commitments are by definition public. Any assertions as to schools in the mix, decision dates, or leaders I will back up with links to the source of the information.

[After THE JUMP: The board, and frank talk about cheating and NIL]

Quarterback

Needs: 1-2. Michigan got 5* JJ McCarthy and Texas Tech transfer Alex Bowman, but took just Cade McNamara and Dan Villari in the last two classes after longtime 2020 commit JD Johnson had to give up football for health reasons, and their quarterbacks from the two classes prior have already transferred. Harbaugh would like to get his old Stanford mix of a dual-threat and a gunslinger.

Status: Were laser focused on Denard-ian Nate Johnson before they suddenly opened up the board and took a Navarre/Speight-like Californian who's been falling down the rankings.

Commit
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Jayden Denegal CA ***.5 Michigan Ask again later
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Nate Johnson CA *** Utah Speed demon
Conner Harrell AL *** UNC Academic
Ashton Daniels GA *** Stanford Late riser?
Justyn Martin CA **** Cal M offered after above
Bert Emanuel Jr. TX n/a Army, TSU Camp invite
Destin Wade TN *** Kentucky ATH, package w LB bro Keaten

Running Back

Needs: 1-2. Michigan got a lightning and thunder in the 2021 class but lost Zach Charbonnet and Christian Turner to transfers and Chris Evans to graduation. Another inside/outside duo would be good.

Status: Were the first to offer 5* Gavin Sawchuk but his interest waned, as did that of several other elites they were in for. As soon as they got to the secondary tier they reeled in Stokes, who's been tearing up a low-level South Carolina league and seemed destined for the Gamecocks until their coaching change. They're also expected to pick up a commitment from ATH Dillon Bell, a 6-2 speedster who could play running back or receiver.

Commit
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
CJ Stokes SC *** Michigan Hello.
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
George Pettaway VA **** UNC, PSU Lightning
Dillon Bell TX *** M, Baylor Spread H. Brother elite 2023 CB
Quinshon Judkins AL *** Aub, UF, PSU, ND Thunder. Impressed at 7v7
Kaleb Johnson OH *** Cal Camp/visit/offer
Nicholas Singleton PA **** PSU Canceled M visit for OSU :/
Omarion Hampton NC **** UNC, UF, OSU, PSU Toussaint-like

Wide Receiver

Needs: 2-3. After filling up on slots in 2019 and 2020 and adding three outside prospects in 2021 Gattis should settle into a mix, shooting for the stars and catching as many as can.

Status: Gattis got just one of the two Illinois targets who remember many camps with JJ McCarthy, with OSU picking off the other. Detroit star Tay'shawn Trent committed shortly after 7v7 teammate Will Johnson, though Trent may need a prep year. Top target Tyler Morris committed on 4/20, after an injury possibly saved Michigan from stiffer competition than ND, but also might have robbed them of Morris until 2023 as well. They're also out of it for Andrel Anthony's leapy pal Darrius Clemons, and seem to have stopped recruiting the ATH from my high school. Now they're offering slots and speedsters as they see them. Michigan has a much better shot at some 2023s so they may end up picking up a late flier or camp commit and moving on to that, hoping to fill any gaps in the future with the transfer portal.

Commits
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Tyler Morris IL **** Michigan Hello. Golden Tate smooth.
Tay'shawn Trent MI *** Michigan Hello. Big, leapy. TE/LB?
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Che Nwabuko TX *** Pitt 5-9 and super fast
Tobias Merriweather WA *** ND/Stanford Dad from Detroit
Darrius Clemons OR **** PSU, Stan, Ore From EL, friends w Andrel
DJ Allen TX **** Baylor, Ark, TCU Slot
Isaiah Bond GA *** Florida Speed, ATH (DB)
Barion Brown TN **** Bama Bama's QB's buddy
Amorion Walker LA *** Notre Dame Bellamy working
CJ Smith FL *** Florida 6-3/fast
Marquarius White AL *** Tenn Nico's school

Tight End

Needs: 2. Michigan's been getting their one guy they scouted better than everybody else and then whiffing on the national recruit they covet each year. Might be time to rebuild the depth.

Status: Marlin Klein was one of the top guys on their board, though he'll need a few years in the weight room first, and Michigan has been going hard after fellow Georgian Oscar Delp since he was a who-dat too but has been trending to Georgia since blowing up into a 4-star. They were the first to offer a third Georgian, 4* Holden Staes, who backed out of a PSU commitment and chose Notre Dame. Then Idaho WR-who-grew-a-butt Colston Loveland popped, and Jay Harbaugh closed before Bama could do so. They're going to try to get Delp too but they're otherwise done.

Oddly rich year for two-stars Michigan would otherwise have a good chance of snapping up on the cheap, like legacy Josh Kattus, Fordson's Mo Hazime, and Dewitt's WR-who-grew Tommy McIntosh, who's totally not going to make us regret this at Wisconsin.

Commit
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Colston Loveland ID ***.5 Michigan Hello
Marlin Klein GA *** Michigan Hello
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Oscar Delp GA **** UGA leads M "Yeah Michigan!"
Jaren Kanak KS *** Clem, Bama, M, UGA, UF ATH: WR/S/LB/TE?
Jack Velling WA *** OrSt Rising prep schooler
Tommy McIntosh MI ** Wisconsin From Dewitt
Josh Kattus OH *** Kentucky Son of Eric
Mo Hazime MI ** D-II Fordson

Offensive Line

Needs: 4-6. Now that OL are leaving after their RS sophomore years it's important to load up every cycle with a mix of high floors and high ceilings. Yes, there will be a LOT of sophomores and freshmen when the 2022s arrive but there could also be an exodus as the younger guys see oceans of eligibility ahead for the starters and the starters get NFL eyes six months later. Shark teeth.

Status: This may end up a small class because the projects Warinner loved (Kiyaunta Goodwin, Fisher Anderson) were tied to Warinner, and the elites Moore would rather go after require more than a late push from a first-time OL coach. Reece Atteberry's buddy Connor Jones is the holdover. Moore refocused on blue chips. WA 5* Josh Conerly is probably a longshot though Courtney Morgan got them a foot in the door. The pursuit of Conerly got them in before the flood of offers for Onwenu-ish WA 3* Mark Nabou. Moore was also in good shape for George Fitzpatrick and Lucas Heyer, until the former turned into a possible #1 OT and committed to Ohio State, and the latter drifted back into a Stanford commitment.

So it looks like they'll have to find gems here as well, or move on to 2023. On that front, however, Michigan lucked into Quebecois Alessandro Lorenzetti, a late-bloomer who wanted to play Big Ten football. The board is expanding again to the camp finds and Frey types, but we haven't seen any of them nibble yet. There are a bunch of guys they're keeping tabs on, including Jones's training mates Kaden Weatherby and Braden Miller. They're probably out now for 6-8 OT Andre Roye since his coach at St. Frances, Biff Poggi, is returning to Michigan in a non-assistant role.

Commits
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Connor Jones CO *** Michigan Hello. Puts water in the harbor.
Alessandro Lorenzetti CT *** Michigan Quebecois steal. Hello.
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Josh Conerly WA ***** WA decommit Courtney Morgan connection
Mark Nabou WA *** M, A&M, UT, USC Onwenu-like. Blowing up.
Falentha Carswell GA *** YTM, others Hoops, 6-7 OT.
Luke Dalton IL *** MAC offers Camp, immediate unofficial
Lucas Heyer MN **** Stanford M lost interest
Jackson Pruitt MI *** MAC Cass Tech
George Fitzpatrick CO **** Ohio State Super athlete, should be a 5-star.
Tyler Booker IMG **** Bama/OSU Originally from CT. Old staff had shot.
Joe Brunner WI ****.5 Wisconsin Assume Wisconsin
Aamil Wagner OH **** OSU OSU offer came. Tyree Kinnel kinnection.
Carson Hinzman WI **** UW, ND, Iowa Assume Wisconsin
Billy Schrauth WI **** ND, OSU, UW ND leads
Malik Agbo WA **** LSU, Bama, Ore, WA M at bottom of a top 8
Riley Quick AL **** Bama, Aub Baseball star, locals slow-playing
Kiyaunta Goodwin IN ****.5 Kentucky Warinner
Fisher Anderson TN **** UNC, Stan, NW Warinner
Ryan Brubaker PA *** South Carolina PSU legacy
Kaden Weatherby OL *** TTU Near M commit pre-Warinner, injury
Laakea Kapol HI *** SDSU, Cuse Warinner
Andre Roye MD *** UMD, Pitt, RU St. Frances, 6'8" OT
Braden Miller CO *** MSU OT, M more interested?
Grayson Morgan TN *** UK, UMD, Tenn, MissST Rising Stars top performer
James Livingston MI *** Marshall, EMU Growing tackle, M watching
Bryce Keller OH *** No profile Toledo Whitmer. Good camp at EMU.

Defensive Tackle

Needs: 3-4. We shall see how the youngsters pan out but instant help is highly desirable since Hinton will probably be off to the NFL soon and the rest of the guys playing don't have much eligibility yet. Michigan is going to play with three in their standard sets.

Status: Another spot where there's a whole new board since the staff changes. Alex VanSumeren decommitted when his brother left and the Alabama interest got serious. Since Don Brown left Nua's been offering a slate of much, much larger individuals, and put Michigan in a position to be a finalist for an elite-elite.

River Rouge's Davonte Miles is one and committed on the offer. Cass Tech's Deone Walker reshaped himself and seems likely to join the class eventually. Michigan whiffed on a few of the guys they thought they could get. That includes Jordan Phillips from Ocoee, who was near a Michigan commit at one point and is horribly underrated, but committed to Tennessee. It also includes IN 3* Kenneth Grant, whom Michigan found on the way up but who way upped past them into Ohio State realm. The staff cooled on Don Brown holdover Hayden Schwartz, an NFL legacy who'll end up at Nebraska. Nua has remained quietly in contact with 6-5/350 Peter Taoipu.

In course they've re-expanded the board and reconnected with former target Derrick Shepard, who committed to Marcus Freeman at Cincy before Freeman went to Notre Dame. They also offered a couple of recent camp risers, Canadian Isaiah Hastings, and South Carolingian Robby Harrison, who showed up to this year's circuit 20 pound heavier than he was last listed. They could also turn to Mario Eugenio's teammate and friend Tawfiq Thomas. Meanwhile they're staying in it for super five-star Walter Nolen.

Commit
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Davonte Miles MI **.5 Michigan Hello
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Walter Nolen TN ***** M, OSU, Bama Elite! Close w K.Jones, W.Johnson. Grparents from MI
Deone Walker MI *** M, MSU Cass Tech, OL/DL ATH
Derrick Shepard OH **** Cincy Committed to Freeman b4 ND
Isaiah Hastings Ont *** open Rising after Big Man camp at FSU
Shone Washington LA **** LSU, UGA, Ole Miss Recent LSU decommit, trains w Eugenio, eligibility?
Robby Harrison SC *** IU, KSU, MN Build a bear, up to 285, setting up visit
Justice Finkley AL **** TX, CO, AL Kemp, M led until reevaluating him as a DT
Jordan Phillips FL *** Tennessee Michigan found first, TN found better
Hayden Schwartz FL *** Nebraska Carlo Kemp-like
Kenneth Grant IN *** OSU, Wis, M "full grown mammoth", blowing up now
Tawfiq Thomas FL *** M, ISU, KU Teammate of Eugenio.
Anthony Lucas AZ **** ASU, ND, UCLA previously visited
Peter Taoipu WA *** M, ASU, Colo, Neb Nua connect
Lavon Johnson PA ** VT, Baylor Big guy
Jadon Scarlett TX *** Big 8/SWC Stock up, explosive first step
Hero Kanu CA *** Clem, OSU, LSU, Bama German, #1 on OSU/Bama's boards now
Damoni Williams CA *** Cal Big guy

Edge

Needs: 3-4. Michigan would love to get an instant-impact guy but they've loaded up in recent classes with various shots at those. Adding need here because Macdonald's defense uses a lot of them.

Status: The board was almost totally blown up by the staff switch. It took awhile however for all the Don Brown anchor targets to fall away, but fall away Caden Curry, Joe Strickland, Anthony Lucas, and Joseph Adedire did. The final holdout was Justice Finkley, whom the staff reevaluated as an interior prospect when they finally saw him in person, though the door may not be completely closed on the Carlo Kemp-alike.

In their stead are the OLBs that Helow and Macdonald covet. They pulled in two of their faves in Mario Eugenio and Micah Pollard, and caught a third Uche-like in Kevonte Henry on the rise. All they need now is Joshua Josephs for the full set, though they missed out on Beau Atkinson along the way. This means there isn't room anymore for sparkplug Anto Saka, who'll probably be great at Northwestern, or former Ypsilantean Torren Wright.

Commit
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Mario Eugenio FL ***.5 Michigan Hello. "u-Hen-io" Judon-esque.
Micah Pollard FL *** Michigan Hello. Pure edge.
Kevonte Henry CA *** Michigan Hello
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Joshua Josephs GA *** M, Tenn Don't let SEC see film. Andre Stewart teammate
Joseph Adedire TX *** TCU Don Brownian anchor
Anto Saka MD *** Northwestern Winovichian
Torren Wright NC **** NC State Originally from Ypsi
Beau Atkinson NC *** UNC Aidan-like.
Brian Allen IL *** Iowa, Illini Academic.
Zach Rowell CA *** Ore, Stan SDE, moving up
DJ Wesolak MO **** ND, Clem OLB/DE
Keon Wylie PA *** PSU OLB/DE
DeSean Brown OK *** OkSt lock WDE
Samuel Okunlola MA *** open Brother of 5* 2023 OT
Vincent Paige TX *** North Texas M "closely monitoring"
Tomiwa Durojaiye DE *** GT SDE type

Linebacker

Needs: 3-4. There's been a ton of turnover at LB and the new staff wants to have more of them out there for their multiple defenses, so we're looking into all kinds of Wisconsin-esque dudes who never would have gotten a look from Don Brown.

Status: Unfortunately the transition blew up a solid start. MA 4* Tyler Martin followed Don Brown to Arizona, and former shoe-in Joshua Burnham committed to Notre Dame after the transition opened the door. Here's Steve Lorenz on the 24/7 podcast last spring:

Michigan has reignited their pursuit of four-star Sebastian Cheeks in a big way in the last three weeks or so after minimal contact immediately after the Macdonald hiring. A great source told me the staff's linebacker board is relatively wide open and while there are the guys we've talked a lot about (Micah Pollard, Josephs, Patton, Wade, Barton), some of their most recent offers (DeMario Tolan, Omar Graham, Torren Wright, Robby Snelling, Kyle Efford) appear to be legitimate targets at this point as well. A clear mix of the top guys the last staff preferred and a whole new set of prospects the new staff has evaluated.

Michigan took recent RB convert Aaron Alexander as a program guy because when Jermain Crowell of Belleville says jump we say "how high can he?" and Crowell says "very very high."

They'll pursue UT 4* Lander Barton to the end because Helow/Macdonald think that's what a linebacker should look like. That might be a pipedream though. As for the targets reciprocating interest they'll soon find out if they're set or need to open the board back up when Sebastian Cheeks and Jeremy Patton make their decisions in the coming weeks. Cheeks seems to like Texas more but might want to stay closer to home, while Patton might like Michigan more but might want to stay closer to home at Texas. Unless both go Blue, they'll probably snatch up recent camp offer Deuce Spurlock. A couple of homegrown former four-stars are still waiting around, though even MSU doesn't seem that interested in them.

Commit
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Aaron Alexander MI ** Michigan Hello. Belleville
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Lander Barton UT **** Utah, M, ND Macdonald type specimen
Sebastian Cheeks IL **** M, TX, Ore M picked it back up, hopes distance matters.
Jeremy Patton TX **** M, TX, Baylor M kicked off offer blitz, hopes distance doesn't matter
Deuce Spurlock AL ** Michigan Camp offer, 6-2/200
Mani Powell OH *** Arkansas offered a day before commit
Joshua Burnham MI **** ND M fan once close to committing to Jean-Marie
DeMario Tolan FL **** LSU recent offer
Keaten Wade TN **** Kentucky Package with QB bro. Clink?
Ish Harris TX **** A&M A&M offered as RB
Tyler Banks VA *** VT, BC, TN "ATH" Don Brown liked more.
Robby Snelling NV **** Stanford Stanford Baseball commit
Kyle Efford GA *** GT Helow UMD target
Michael Williams MI *** CMU, Cuse WB Interest diminished after injured 2020
Jordan Cannon MI *** M, MSU, Cincy OLSM


Safety

Needs: 2-3. Michigan wanted to get 2 or 3 in the 2021 class and came away with one. It's time to get the next generation since Dax Hill and Brad Hawkins aren't long for college and the 2020 class could scoot through quickly. Some of the cornerbacks might fit here too.

Status: Andre Seldon's brother Myles Rowser committed ages ago then decommitted, fell down the rankings, and committed to Arkansas. Taylor Groves committed to Mo Linguist but decommitted. Michigan has spent way too long in great shape with West Bloomfield's Dillon Tatum, who can play S or CB, and was about to commit before they replaced Linguist with Clinkscale, who didn't recruit Tatum to Kentucky. MSU, the school Tatum grew up rooting for, used the opportunity to move in and make this a true 55/45 between playing with the best players in Michigan for his old West Bloomfield coach Ron Bellamy, or finally cracking Mel Tucker's four-star cherry at State.

The guys Linguist was after came and went. They had Austin Brown on the hook but he went to Wisconsin, and then they got another blow when TCU managed to convince D'Arco Perkins-McAllister, an athlete they love, to reclassify to 2021 and join the frogs right away. Jake Pope waved at Michigan on his way up from 3-star to a Bama-UGA battle. Other options are AL 3* Ja'Kobi Albert, whom everyone thinks is going to stay in the South but who got weak-kneed at meeting Juwan Howard on his official, Clinkscale's Kentucky commit Jeremiah Caldwell from Belleville, and they could always--hint hint nudge nudge--go back to Wylie E. Groves' own Jaden Mangham, who could fit at receiver, which is another position of need. Just saying.

Also Michigan will stay on 5-star IMG safety/hybrid Keon Sabb, but would need to have a really good season for him to consider it.

Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Dillon Tatum MI **** Michigan, MSU WB/Clink hire a setback
Keon Sabb IMG (OH) ***** A&M, Clem Beat Ohio then let's talk.
Jacoby Matthews LA ****.5 LSU Go Ron Bellamy
D'Arco Perkins-McAllister TN *** TCU Reclassified to 2021 for TCU
Austin Brown IL *** Wisconsin Late riser, Hybrid
Jake Pope GA ***.5 Bama, UNC, UGA Shooting up rankings
Mumu Bin-Wahad GA *** WVU S/CB, canceled visit
Jeremiah Caldwell MI *** Kentucky Belleville
Ja'Kobi Albert AL *** Auburn Visited, Juwan fan, not leaving South.
Jaden Mangham MI **** WVU, Nebraska Groves!
Kaleb Purdy MO *** Mizzou Nickel

Cornerback

Needs: 7-85. There is no such thing as an excessive number of cornerbacks. If you have too many great ones you put one at nickel and play a Cover 1 all day like Ohio State, which is far too good at plucking five-stars they don't bother coaching and then taking credit for their high draft pick numbers. Michigan lost its last Detroit Cat when Ambry Thomas opted out and 2021 had one guy in it who's barely a top-500 recruit right now, so load up.

Status: This cycle started with a flashing "DON'T FUCK THIS UP" sign and Michigan's staff changes were largely geared towards that end. They nearly fucked it up when Linguist took the Buffalo job, but they hired Steve Clinkscale, one of the few names who could keep Will Johnson in the fold and improve their chances of getting the Stribling-like teammate of Junior Colson, Myles Polalrd. They also managed to solidify Linguist pickup Kody Jones, their nickel target, and a key ingredient in their pursuit of DT Walter Nolen.

Some of the other early names have gone. They're going to continue working on Domani Jackson, who's still committed to USC, but plans to visit Michigan for a game this year. The staff cooled on NJ 4* Jaeden Gould, who ended up taking a late-breaking offer from USC right before Penn State thought they had him. Arizonan super-athlete Benjamin Morrison has a sister at Michigan but seems like a Washington-Notre Dame battle now. James Monds grew up close to the Zinters in Massachusetts and was probably going to be a Don Brown target; he committed to Indiana. There was even a moment when Georgia commit Marquis Groves-Killebrew was going to visit, but that was a week before Linguist left and MGK canceled his Michigan official.

Clink added Kentucky commit Andre Stewart to the board but that recruitment might have stalled as they zeroed in on Pollard and a pair of teammates Courtney Morgan knows, both of whom answer to "Jaleel." They are 3* Jahlil Florence, a lengthy athlete who seems to love Michigan but won't get to visit until the fall, and 4* speedster Jalil Tucker, who seems like a tougher pull. Oregon lurks for both, and probably leads for Tucker.

Commits
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Will Johnson MI ***** Michigan Hello. Deon's son.
Kody Jones TN **** Michigan Hello. Nickel.
Myles Pollard TN ***.5 Michigan Hello. Loved you on Colson's film.
Targets
Player State Stars Schools Y/N Summary
Domani Jackson CA ***** USC Grew up M fan
Jahlil Florence CA *** Ore, M, Fresno ATH, same HS as Jahlil Tucker
Jalil Tucker CA **** Oregon, P12 Super speedy
Andre Stewart GA *** Kentucky, Vols, M Clink. Auburn decommit.
Marquis Groves-Killebrew GA **** Georgia WJ talked into a visit, UGA talked him out
Benjamin Morrison AZ **** Wash, ND, A&M Sister M gymnast
Jaylen Lewis TN *** Arkansas Stribling
James Monds III FL *** Indiana grew up w Zinter

The Ladder Problem

There have been a lot off additions to the board lately that start with "Michigan saw at a camp" followed by a flurry of links over three weeks. More than a few of them have then gone quiet, then suddenly pop up with a flurry of links to an OSU/Clemson/Bama site. What's going on is Michigan has gone full-bore with their scouting this year as they try to capture would-be elites who didn't pop when they normally would have because of the Covid year. How far those guys shoot up determines where they end up. Guys like Lorenzetti and Loveland apexed in the perfect spot for Michigan to pluck them. Sherrod Covil and Jake Pope kept going.

Michael Elkon talks about this in depth in his HTTV 2021 article (news forthcoming this week I hope), but there’s a very good reason that things are this way. The current four-team playoff is set up to send Ohio State, Alabama, and Clemson every year. If one of those teams falters on the way, their league championships and a gatekeeping committee will find a way to put them in the playoffs anyways. Recruits can hardly be faulted for wanting to go to a program that gives them a 90 percent chance of a title appearance versus the 124 FBS teams who’ve never been to the CFP national championship game, and probably never will.

Last year Alabama put together the greatest class in history by 24/7’s reckoning, but the truly extraordinary thing about that class is how little effort they had to expend. They pursued their blue chips with all the vigor and handshakes you would expect, but there was extremely little drama in the way they asked MI 5* DT Damon Payne if he wanted in (Yes, done), or moved in on FL 5* Edge Dallas Turner as soon as he locked in his elite status. The bulk of that class are top-200 four-stars with very short Bama recruitments after being committed to or favoring someone else. Bama’s 2022 class is still tiny, and still ranked behind that of Rutgers, because they know they can wait for the senior tape to roll in then decide which players in the non-playoff teams’ classes they want, and get half of them.

Ohio State tries harder than Bama, but isn’t doing half the work that Harbaugh’s staff is putting into evaluations. The Buckeyes pour more attention into red carpets for the super-elites, e.g. the extensive pursuit of 2021’s #1 overall recruit (#44 of the century to 247) JT Tuimoloau, which went into this month.

When a George Fitzpatrick hits their radars, they say “do you want to play in the playoffs?” to George Fitzpatrick, and two weeks later he commits. Michigan had Fitzpatrick on top of their board for two years because they’re pipelined into the Colorado training groups that Colorado linemen come from. Didn’t matter. Michigan also lost lost slot receiver Kaleb Brown this way. That was Gattis’s guy, AJ Hennings’s guy, the third leg of the JJ McCarthy/Tyler Morris Chicago triad guy. But Ohio State needed a slot to go with their four-man all-blue chip WR class that followed their 2021 all-blue chip WR class that followed their four-man all-blue chip 2020 WR class. There were a couple of months of interest, an offer, a visit, and poof. Lately they’ve moved in on IN DT Kenneth Grant, the huge dude Nua was closing in on all winter and spring. It doesn’t mean Michigan’s out with Grant just like that, but you can follow a trend as well as I can.

Michigan’s place in this is frustrating. To have a shot at equivalent talent Harbaugh’s staff needs to start with a significant advantage (e.g. player is a legacy, or grandparents live nearby), pursue teammates and friends, and/or find the guy a year before their competition, then knock every subsequent interaction out of the park. Even then their shot of landing anyone Ohio State or Alabama wants is less than 50 percent. We’ve seen Bama close on guys who told Michigan they’re coming, even one whose stuff was already in his Michigan dorm. Ohio State is worse because they eat peoples’ souls. Also we hate them.

What you’ve got to remember is that a lot of these recruits are just looking to land at the strongest program willing to save a spot for them. You think it sucks for us that Michigan poured all this effort into Grant from March through July, but Purdue offered the in-state prospect a year ago. There’s a pecking order, and our spot, all things considered is a good one. It’s just not good enough to compete with “do you want a ring?” in an age when certain schools are systemically guaranteed all the rings.

The calcification of college football tiers—which I believe is worse now than even the “Big 2 Little 8” days when there was room for about 8-10 schools to be on TV regularly—is just as frustrating to teams in line behind Michigan, which is the majority of them. Nebraska, which also gets mentioned in hot seat articles that get written without any sourcing inside the program, is in a panic right now because they don’t have the ammunition right now to even attempt to recruit a four-star this cycle. Closer to home, Mel Tucker is on West Bloomfield safety Dillon Tatum every day, because Tucker’s reputation as a recruiter is dying in the light of his own inability to net a consensus 4-star.

That recruitment is a good one to examine. Tatum is a good player, but he’s like a Tyree Kinnel-level good player. State is in it because Tatum grew up an MSU fan, and because they brought back Dantonio’s DBs coach. They were out of it until Michigan changed secondary coaches for the third time in the last six months, and because the carousel ended with one guy, Steve Clinkscale, who conspicuously didn’t recruit Tatum while with Kentucky. Most of those advantages are negated by Michigan having his high school coach at his position. The result is a 60/40 split favoring Michigan that is mostly comprised of the fact that Michigan is the stronger program.

Every recruitment has its specifics, but in general when Michigan catches a guy on the rise, they’re able to move ahead of 100 other schools instantly, because most players these days are most affected by their “best” offer. When that guy rises into OSU-Bama territory, that advantage flips to a disadvantage. This also leads to offers versus “offers” versus “”offers.”” Ohio State might offer a guy like Tatum to see what he does. If he jumps, good, they’ve got him. If he doesn’t, or shows he expects them to do some work to prove the fit, they move on. Sometimes, as with TE Colston Loveland, there are signs Bama is actually fairly hard. They don’t stop at a commitment either. Because they use flips so much, you have to keep an eye on your guys. And even if they don’t go through as much tape as tape-obsessed Michigan, the Tide are no slouches at evaluations, and well ahead of the recruiting sites. If anything, their classes are better than the rankings make them out to be. Tell a Bama assistant that Rutgers is ranked ahead of them in the composite and they’ll laugh and point at the reason every Rutgers “4-star” either shouldn’t be, or showing signs he won’t actually stick in the class if he is. Or the school let a kid graduate early reclassify, which is a thing that just lost Michigan the recruitment of one of their top safety prospects to TCU.

For our part, there is no answer to this until the playoff field expands, Michigan makes a run at it, or one of these programs shoots themselves in the foot. Michigan still has a niche with its education platform, its pipeline to better jobs after college if football doesn’t work out, and Harbaugh’s NFL connections. With the current playoff still in place and Ohio State’s place in it guaranteed unless they trip up twice over another easy Big Ten schedule, it’s not changing anytime soon.

NIL to the Rescue?

There is some hope that NIL can eventually make Michigan competitive with the super baggers. I don’t mean the nickel and dime sponsorships; I specifically mean using the door opened by NIL to funnel money from boosters to the players for whom immediate financial security is a major factor. I think we will get there, with the emphasis on will.

I don’t have direct knowledge of this (by design) but I assume we are already doing the thing most Power 5 schools do, which is have the assistants give some of their pay to their guys, a system one person who’s deeply familiar with SEC recruiting called “The Bama Way” because it spread along with the proliferation of Tide assistants in the 2010s. By TJ Duckett’s admission, Saban’s assistants were doing that at MSU too. Bama likes to keep things in-house so they can control it, which is why their coaching and analyst budget is so much larger than the rest of college football.

None of this is stuff I have proof of. But people these days are pretty free with stories, so I'll share some of the things that have come around more than once. Most Southern schools have separate, “unsanctioned” operations that don’t go through the coaches, but still take directions from them. Georgia, for example, has a small consortium of local builders and contractors who do regular work in the summer and collect unemployment in the winter while doing cash jobs they don’t report to the IRS. Some of their on-campus condos go to the families of recruits for well under their value—the families (eg Otis Reese) then refinance to liquify some of the difference in value, live there while their kids are in school, then sell the homes on the regular market for whatever a home near a college campus is going for by then. Meanwhile the cash-flush boosters pool their wads and dole it out through intermediaries, sometimes as cash, sometimes as prepaid phones, visa cash cards, gift cards to local stores and restaurants. One play is to have the local church pay off a car loan or take care of utility bills. Nobody’s investigating a church, especially since the church often then turns around and uses its own cut to pay a utility bill or car loan for someone else who desperately needs it.

Other than the tax evasion part, none of this is an ethical problem. I just want you to understand why people laugh when we say a startup soft drink sponsorship is going to put Michigan on a level with Texas for the kind of recruit who’s making the bottom line a big part of his decision process. If you are a person who has ever job-searched or bid on a contract, I’m sure you get why more money > less money. Via anybody I talk to, Michigan appears to be extremely lucky to have the kinds of boosters, eg Stephen Ross, who don’t try to stick their noses too far into the program’s business, versus the kind who want to pick the coaches (Ole Miss), settle vendettas against rivals (Auburn) or non-rivals (Georgia), party with the players (Miami), use them as dressing dolls (Oregon), join their ponzi schemes (A&M), stick it to the other booster (MSU) or make their Black players sing a minstrel song (Texas).

We have the boosters, and I’m sad to say I know a couple of Michigan contractors who aren’t as free in December as their tax returns say they are. We’re also in the infancy stage of building that out, and deciding whose skeezy money we’ll take and whose isn’t worth the sketchiness. The attitude of people I know who are close with Harbaugh makes me believe we’re going to turn down most of it, and rely on Nike and some big-ticket friends of the program to match whatever Sarkisian’s recruits are getting to sing “The Eyes of Texas.”

Comments

Seth

July 15th, 2021 at 10:57 AM ^

It wasn't bagmen it was just peaking at the right time. Might as well ask what was it about the families that became Europe's monarchs and great houses that put them there? There were a lot of great kings from different Anglo-Saxon countries--Mercia alone had Penda and Offa, and were more centrally located, and had stronger laws and culture, and were a greater mix of  the various types of Englishness, including Wales. But Offa wasn't alive when the Danes switched from raiding to conquering in Britain, and the Anglo-Saxon nations suddenly needed more centralized government to deal with the threat.

Alfred of Wessex was, ergo the House of Wessex became the Kings of England. Don't get me wrong--Alfred had singular talents and his family had accumulated enough power in the South that he or perhaps one of his elder brothers would have been their era's Bretwalda even without the Viking threat. Neither was Alfred simply a passive player in the conversion of the Heptarchy into a nation-state; he actively pursued it. But that also would not have happened if not for the systemic change in monarchy.

Likewise, Alabama was on a high with Nick Saban, Ohio State was coming off the Tressel dominance and fell into Urban Meyer at just the right time, and Clemson happened to hit a run of great quarterbacks at the right time to win the 2015 NC, when FSU and Miami were down, and therefore took over the Noles' old position as the team that gets to walk through the ACC every year. These were good coaches, but if they had instituted a four-team playoff ten years earlier it would be Pete Carroll's USC, Stoops's Oklahoma, Tressel's Ohio State, and Miami's Larry Coker who got locked in.

I think if Michigan had hired Harbaugh (and jettisoned Brandon) in 2011, there's a good chance he gets Michigan good enough to be in the club. He nearly broke in two years too late in 2016, and you saw how strongly the college football world's reaction was to that.

jdemille9

July 14th, 2021 at 4:53 PM ^

Will NIL really help close the gap on enough elite recruits to make it matter? If it helps get us more than one or two elite players at a time, maybe? I won't hold my breath though.

Sure, we'll get a Peppers or Gary now and then (and even then neither of them could carry the team to elite status by themselves) but without a roster full of those guys we'll never compete with the elites. 

Best we can realistically hope for (IMO anyway) is consistent 9/10-win seasons, with an occasional 11th win sprinkled in some years. Honestly, I'm fine with that, after 30+ years of fandom I've given up on the idea that Michigan can be an elite program in football. If Harbaugh couldn't take us to elite status then I don't think anyone can, sucks but this seems to be the reality of Michigan football. A tier below the elites and maybe they'll get lucky and make the playoffs a couple times (IF it expands to 12 teams like everyone seems to think). 

jdemille9

July 14th, 2021 at 10:12 PM ^

Then what realistic candidates are the pinnacle? Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer or Bill Belichick ain't walking through that door.

Michigan is NOT an elite program - top tier coaches are not busting down the door to coach at Michigan. Our OC was a Saban cast off with no experience calling an offense on his own. Our DC was an NFL position coach, not even a co-DC. Our last DC we pulled out of Boston College - not exactly a mecca of elite football coaching. 

Harbaugh took a moribund 49ers franchise to 44 wins in 4 years, an NFC title in year 2 and came damn close to beating his brother in the Super Bowl. He helped set Stanford on the path to consistent success in college football - no easy task. 

All signs pointed to him being immensely successful here, and yet he can't beat his rivals with any consistency (or beat OSU at all) and despite pretty solid recruiting he cannot field a team that is even sniffing elite. 

If he's not the pinnacle for Michigan (a coach with a track record of success in his previous stops in both college and the NFL) then who is? Matt Campbell? Some unknown assistant that will rise to the elite level of coaches after 5-7 years of running a program (a la Dabo)? Is our Nick Saban miring away in the NFL right now? Maybe someone like Matt Patricia is our savior. 

I get that it's a tired argument, but there are no proven coaches that could potentially take Michigan to elite status that are realistic candidates. 

UMxWolverines

July 15th, 2021 at 10:16 AM ^

So what? Urban Meyer and Nick Saban type hires are the exception and not the norm in college football. Literally almost all the legendary coaches in college football were unknowns. Shit, Saban was an unknown going to LSU from MSU. Lincoln Riley, Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, Dabo Swinney were never even head coaches before taking over big time programs.

This "there are no proven coaches out there" thing has to stop. Stop being scared of the unknown.

Fezzik

July 20th, 2021 at 6:45 PM ^

Then what realistic candidates are the pinnacle? Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer or Bill Belichick ain't walking through that door.

You act like the only good coach hires are ones that were considered home run hires from the get go which is the majority of the time completely inaccurate. You think we can't find an up and coming coach who becomes great here? That is a ridiculous assumption. It isn't easy but you keep trying if your current product isn't getting the job done. Proven elite coaches don't leave their jobs. You have to find the guy who will be great tomorrow, not the guy who was great yesterday (Jim Harbaugh). The 49ers pushed Harbaugh out the door for a reason. 

According to your mind set Juwan Howard is a poor hire because he isn't a home run elite coach before he stepped foot on campus. This blog was going through many "elite" coaching names and Juwan was on zero of them. Good thing none of the "elite" coaches were interested because Juwan Howard has been kicking ass since day 1.

 

matty blue

July 14th, 2021 at 5:09 PM ^

i'm nothing remotely resembling a recruiting guy.  to copy seth, that's partially by design (i'm just not that interested until they get on campus), partially because it just seems impossible to be really informed without putting a whole lot of time into it.  but holy shit, that last section.

the assistants give to their recruits thing is just so monkeyballs i had to read it three times to make sure i was understanding.  and it was / is common knowledge?  the fuck?

BuddhaBlue

July 15th, 2021 at 12:25 AM ^

I mean, it's monkeyballs to have read it so openly but I mean, that's how any of it would have had to go down, right? There needs to be some degree of deniability, middlemen, etc. I guess the most brazen/stupidest/monkeyballs method is if asst. coaches directly gave cash bc then the program is exposed, there are a million cleverer/obfuscatory ways to do it (as Seth also explained) than the wendys bag

matty blue

July 15th, 2021 at 9:33 AM ^

it's brazen, but it's also super-smart, and it's also very, very nick saban. he would never stand for anything that he can't control, beginning to end.

i'm just kinda surprised that he's never had a disgruntled and / or loudmouthed assistant (let's just call him "shmane shmiffin") that wanted to drop a dime on him.

i'd come around on saban in the last couple of years, from "he's great because lsu and alabama cheat" to a simple "he's great.  maybe the greatest ever."  but this swings me back - if this is indeed how he recruits the way he does?  i don't know, man.  i mean, it's an edge, i guess no different from john wooden's shenanigans at ucla, but still.  rubs me wrong.

dragonchild

July 14th, 2021 at 5:21 PM ^

The NCAA and the conferences will continue to conspire to hand playoff spots to Alabama, OSU, and Clemson until it hurts them, and probably a long time after that.

This is the current state of college football, far more than NIL. People think the economics of NIL will alter the politics of the NCAA but that’s not how cartels work.

It’s so boring.

WestQuad

July 14th, 2021 at 5:31 PM ^

I used to be upset that we were getting 4 stars and some 3 stars instead of all 5 stars and some four stars.  Now we're getting 3 stars and some 2 stars.  Here's hoping everyone is misranked due to COVID.  Maybe Will Johnson can pull in Walter Nolan and a few surprise guys.   Where is the Clinksdale bump?

 

EDIT: Just read the end of the entry after reading other comments. The whole thing about our recruiting sucking because other people pay players, but we still pay players just not as well is sort of crap.  Not the factuality of it, but the half-cheating.  If you're going to cheat do it well or don't do it at all.  I envy Army and Navy, Harvard and Yale.  Actual amateur athletes who are students at their schools first and happen to play football.  Money is a double edged sword.

CaliforniaNobody

July 14th, 2021 at 6:13 PM ^

That whole drama with SEC coaches demanding oyhers be forced to take time off because they didn't want to work was so odd lol. If I told my job it wasn't fair that my coworkers worked harder than me so they looked better I'd be rightfully laughed at. 

dragonchild

July 14th, 2021 at 6:45 PM ^

I get it but I can't bring myself to "LOL" at it.

Alabama gets to do whatever it wants, the NCAA's head cop is a Buckeye, but it's Harbaugh the NCAA repeatedly goes out of their way to shut down for doing things like (gasp!) work harder or run football camps or hire a perfectly qualified coach.  The B1G hands OSU his best shot at breaking their streak to a bunch of homer referees, and literally change their rules in the middle of the season to ensure they make the playoffs.

Harbaugh gets a lot of hate, and a good chunk of it is deserved.  He's mismanaged recruiting, player development, and coaching hires.  But let's also remember the shit he's been through.  There's a near-certainty he's the only football coach in history to be hit with a basketball (!!!!!) penalty.  He might be broken, but FFS, I'd be broken.  There's no way I could look up at what the NCAA and B1G conspired and not lose all hope in the sport he loves so much.

Dizzy

July 14th, 2021 at 7:03 PM ^

Fantastic as always, Seth.

If one believes that recruiting is the lifeblood of college football and championships are won on signing day, I'm not sure what the fire Harbaugh crowd is hoping for.

Michigan hasn't been able to really compete in the current format regardless of how hard their head coach works. Harbaugh (and his staff) have been outworking Ohio State, Clemson, and Alabama, but simply can't offer guaranteed playoff spots or $100k in cash for the cream of the crop 'Jimmys and Joes'. Matt Campbell or any other coach at Michigan can't either.

It's my opinion that for Michigan's football program to consistently compete for B1G championships or playoff appearances, they need to stick with a head coach, who has to have the benefit of allowing his coordinators time to develop their own players.

Harbaugh came in any tried to recreate Stanford. When it became clear that style offense couldn't keep up, he made a huge decision to drastically shift his offense towards a high scoring spread style attack. We've had four years of Manball and are now one and a half years into a transition to Speed in Space.

Context matters.

Gattis has had one transition year where he tried to mesh his concepts with what his roster had available, and half a year with a bunch of inexperienced players stepping into starting roles. To make things worse, he had no spring practice, opt-outs by his NFL bound LT and WR, and a number of injuries to his already shuffling OL. He was also starting a young QB who got injured, and then his promising backup got injured, too. 

On defense last year, Don Brown was clearly transitioning his scheme to be more multiple, had a lot of young players, had no spring practice to get experience, no safeties coach, his #1 CB opted out, and then everyone got injured once the season started.

Last year was a shit show that ended with Jim cutting his pay in half and making the difficult decision to part ways with Don Brown. Clearly, the fans demanded blood and someone's head had to roll.

In the off season, we've seen Harbaugh revamp his staff with young, relationship oriented coaches, with track records filled with success, including two guys who came on strong recommendation from John at the Ravens. Both are/were on track to be NFL coordinators.

Since all the moves, everyone who comes in contact with the new staff seems to rave about how genuine everyone is and how the culture feels special.

If college football is about to move towards a 12 team playoff with NIL options, I personally want to see Jim and his new staff get a fair shot in the new era of college football. The guy has been through hell for Michigan and always taken the high road. I wanna see him win.

Respectfully, to those who are ready to move on, I am with you in your frustrations, but I just don't see how blowing everything up now and starting over puts Michigan any closer to competing with Ohio State, Bama, or Clemson. The offense is going into year three and the defense is going into year one. The complaints have largely already been addressed. The problems that exist cannot be quickly fixed by replacing the head coach, if they can be fixed at all.

I also think it's important to note, that I don't think those who disagree with me are dumb or off base for wanting change. We have some great fans on this board who clearly want to see Michigan win again. I hope we can all remember that we're on the same team, even if we disagree with each other about the right direction of the program.

Cheers and GO BLUE.

TIMMMAAY

July 21st, 2021 at 3:38 PM ^

Agreed in full, well written and thoughtful. 

Harbaugh deserves to win, and I really want to see him succeed here. He was sooo close early on, and I still believe had we not been zebra fucked out of the '16 OSU Game, things would look very different right now. We won that goddamn game, that was a travesty. Then again in '18 we should have won, but injuries and an ill times interception killed that one. 

BornInA2

July 14th, 2021 at 7:27 PM ^

While lazy “hot seat” articles continue to lead with photos of Harbaugh, he and his staff are putting together a top-ten class with considerable upside.

In car racing they say, "You can't win the race in the first turn, but you can lose it."

In football you can't keep your job based on recruiting, but you can lose it. Jim's rapidly running out of mediocre seasons and losses to Ohio State, and recruiting rankings are not relevant.

 

lhglrkwg

July 14th, 2021 at 7:28 PM ^

Damn. You know when you finally get old enough and your mom or dad start letting you in on all the family secrets and disfunction and what's really been going on all those years you were a naive kid? Feels like Seth finally sat us down and finally told us how it is

byrd390

July 14th, 2021 at 7:42 PM ^

Wow, I had to log in to add my voice to the dozens of other people golf clapping for the last section of this write-up. Absolutely terrific stuff. I strolled through the OSU blog site the other day and all they do is pat themselves on the back for their amazing recruiting acumen.

I'm proud to be an alum of Michigan and proud we can see a situation for what it really is. I sure wish we could compete in the recruiting game with the big three but now I have some context as to why we are in the position we are in.

dragonchild

July 14th, 2021 at 7:52 PM ^

Recruits can hardly be faulted for wanting to go to a program that gives them a 90 percent chance of a title appearance versus the 124 FBS teams who’ve never been to the CFP national championship game, and probably never will.

Faulted, no, but it's definitely a generational(?) difference I don't really get.  What's so fun about getting a trophy handed to you for joining Sauron's forces?  What's so special about the experience of being a five-star on a team full of five stars, riding the bench for two years out of a three-year career watching blowout after blowout?  Is this really what kids want out of their athletic careers?  It's not like NOT going to Alabama is a particular problem to the NFL if you're a motivated, top-100 recruit.  FFS if you're Randy Moss, they'll find you even if you go to effin' Marshall.

I do confess I'm a hopeless romantic and yeah, these days it often feels like I'm literally the only one in the world, so if you're a normal, well-adjusted person I'm sure this comes off as a laughably ridiculous take.  But to me, a happy event is so much sweeter if there's some adversity in the way, and while I'm not necessarily Calvin's Dad, if I'm an NFL coach (clearly I'm not) I'm at least curious if a kid who went out of his way to avoid competition would handle getting dusted.  FWIW, I've seen plenty of young NFL players wilt under pressure.

Now, kids aren't so dumb as to believe being the superstar on one of those 124 other FBS teams is a path to the playoff in a political structure deliberately designed to keep them out, but FWIW, I don't believe that either.  My point is six of one, half dozen of the other.  You either can join one of the Big Three and be handed a CFP spot you did relatively little on the field to earn, or join some other program and never get anywhere near it.  But at least in the latter case, you'll be an important part of the program and play at least a few competitive games.

Yeah, yeah.  Like I said, I know I'm the crazy one.  I think this has got to be every bit as boring for the players as the fans, but it seems that's just me being really out of touch.  Or more likely, I've never been in touch.

Eph97

July 14th, 2021 at 10:27 PM ^

Pretty easy for OSU to recruit against UM these days. Just point out a guy like DPJ who was a 5* that turned down OSU and ended up getting drafted in the 6th round. Kids these days want to be first round picks and play in the playoffs.

As for Michigan being able to get better jobs for its players if football doesn't work out, that would be an interesting comparison to see where the OSU players end up vs. Michigan's that don't make it in the NFL.

Seth

July 15th, 2021 at 12:03 PM ^

I'm willing to bet if you go back to the dawn of man you'll find the the homo antecessor generation bitching about how these lazy, entitled young homo sapiens think the game should just walk into the cave and sit down on the fire. And the sapiens were probably sticking their noses in the air at their lazy stupid hypocritical parents.

Minor generational differences brought about by differences in the circumstances of our times are minor. The world isn't going to hell in a handbasket because of the next generation of kids, and the world isn't fucked up because of the last one. One human generation begat another, and each used its experiences to add the mix of our constantly evolving culture.

If you really want to make comparisons, young football players today provably work much harder. They start playing football at a younger age, add training groups to their high school preparation, and play a more complicated and demanding game than their forebears. They also coalesce at higher levels where they can't just exist on their talent. Used to be most of your skill positions were high school running backs, because everybody was the most talented player in his league. Now you have a guy like Dillon Tatum who moved to WB to be surrounded by future pros, was coached by one of the best young coaches in America, and moved to defense when he was 16 because that's where his future lies. Forty years ago, Tatum is Chuck Winter, an athletic RB tearing it up for St. Martin DePorres that Michigan thinks they can teach to be a defensive back. He needs you to turn him into that player, and you recruit him knowing you won't get that out of him unless you put in a few years of training.

Today they come to college far more prepared for it, and with far far more football already under their belts, having already built their training regimens, studied their future positions, and gone well down the path to shaping their bodies for maximal football performance. It's no wonder they are in the headspace by that point where they think they deserve to see some of the rewards. They're showing up to college as far along in their development as Bo's redshirt juniors used to be.

Michigan Arrogance

July 15th, 2021 at 9:53 AM ^

 if I'm an NFL coach (clearly I'm not) I'm at least curious if a kid who went out of his way to avoid competition would handle getting dusted.  

I may be reading this wrong, but are you saying that going TO Bama et al, is *avoiding* competition? B/c if anything, they are competing against the best of the best of the best (sir!) in practice every day at those places. Steel sharpens steel, as they say. And these kids ALL think they will be the one to rise to the top of ANY depth chart. It's really a positive feedback cycle. Recruits beget success begets recruits.

 

Firebirddl

July 14th, 2021 at 9:19 PM ^

Great stuff Seth. You can see how it’s basically two different levels of teams playing when Michigan plays OSU, or when they played Bama. It’s nice to see a rational explanation for why that is.

blueblooded14

July 14th, 2021 at 11:02 PM ^

I think by ethical (r.e. paying players) you mean moral. All of this has been unethical (against the rules), but most reasonable people do not see it as overly immoral (good vs. evil). Subtle but important distinction.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

Steve Breaston…

July 14th, 2021 at 11:28 PM ^

Reading Seth’s recruiting roundups after years of Ace’s is like that scene from Dumb and Dumber where Harry is shocked that Lloyd had two pairs of gloves the whole time. I cannot believe this kind of thought and well-written exposition wasn’t used here from day one. Bravo, Seth.

A State Fan

July 15th, 2021 at 9:48 AM ^

A lot of this reads like MGoFanFiction, not reality.

Michigan and Harbaugh are outworking everyone? That's not backed up by non-Michigan affiliated sites.

Michigan article on Detroit recruiting (pretty fair to UM, Clinkscale positively mentioned):

https://theathletic.com/2705899/2021/07/14/michigan-recruiting-battles-who-will-control-detroit-how-good-is-dante-moore-who-recruits-the-state-best/

Ohio article where one of the big questions is why Michigan isn't doing more in the state (Clinkscale positively mentioned again):

https://theathletic.com/2697404/2021/07/12/the-battle-for-talent-in-ohio-osus-dominance-cincinnatis-emergence-kentuckys-pitch-michigans-absence/

Pennsylvania article, OSU mentioned 24 times, Michigan 2:

https://theathletic.com/2702678/2021/07/13/inside-pennsylvania-recruiting-is-penn-state-rebounding-what-drives-ohio-states-success-where-does-pitt-stand/
Texas article, OSU mentioned as big out-of-state recruiter:

https://theathletic.com/2707348/2021/07/15/texas-high-school-coaches-get-real-on-recruiting-college-coaches-they-trust-horns-vs-aggies-and-whos-invading-the-state/

If that article was written for FL, CA, or GA, will is mention Michigan? Probably? But I guarantee it'll mention OSU.

Edit - found a CA article! OSU mentioned 10+ times, Michigan mentioned once for having a good under the radar commit:

https://theathletic.com/2705858/2021/07/14/uscs-not-winning-and-uclas-not-offering-a-survey-of-californias-college-football-recruiting-power-struggles/

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"This may end up a small class because the projects Warinner loved (Kiyaunta Goodwin, Fisher Anderson) were tied to Warinner"

Those are the #53 and #230 players on the 24/7 composite. "Projects" is trying to soften the blow of losing a really good OL coach and replacing him with an unknown OL coach, but pretty good recruiter.

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"Michigan had Fitzpatrick on top of their board for two years because they’re pipelined into the Colorado training groups that Colorado linemen come from"

Before Michigan, he was offered by: Minny, Oklahoma, Auburn, Tenn, ND, TCU, Neb, Michigan St, Kansas St, Colorado, ASU, WSU, Iowa St, Utah, and a couple others. That's some "in" if they were able to be the ~15th power 5 offer the kid got.

King Tot

July 15th, 2021 at 10:46 AM ^

Did you actually read what Seth wrote? He was specifically talking about scouting and identifying recruits early who than get scooped up by elite programs (see George Fitzpatrick). Troll.

Edit:

I didn't see you comment specifically about Fitzpatrick. Recruiting doesn't suddenly begin with a scholarship offer and Michigan treated him as an elite target from the start.

 

A State Fan

July 15th, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^

If he was an elite target from the start... why were they the 18th P5 school to offer him?

If he was an elite target from the start... Michigan offered on Sept 1, 2020 (per his twitter). They offered at least 14 other OTs before then according to 24/7. Some of those might be "offers", some of those might be after other guys committed.

You're right that a lot of things happen behind the scenes that I can't see from a 24/7 profile or a twitter page... but I can see those things. And it doesn't seem like Michigan unearthed a gem earlier than anyone else

Seth

July 15th, 2021 at 8:45 PM ^

The offer dates are not always accurate portrayals of how long a school has been on a guy. Often it reflects a "re-offer" from new coaches, or a team that was involved for a long time with a player using their offer moment as a culmination.

As you aptly demonstrate, perceptions about a school's recruiting and what's going on are more often than not closer to the opposite of what's being said. You will get people saying all the time that *this* school is putting in effort and *that* isn't because they're coming from an extremely limited perspective, and often are trying to get more attention for their guys.

With Michigan specifically, they have an army of analysts sifting through video. We have several assistants who've been at or are now at other schools who can make more accurate comparisons between how Michigan's recruiting operation works versus others. We also see the effect of these efforts because Michigan's constantly getting in with kids right before they move up. Notre Dame is very good at this too. And I wrote about it because if you're following Michigan recruiting it seems like guys pop up, and there's an appearance that we have a *great* chance all of a sudden, and people should know why this is a mirage. What's happening is Michigan gets in right before the flood, not way before the flood. That results in a lot of targets who never really developed more interest in Michigan than the base level the school generally would have.

ERdocLSA2004

July 15th, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^

Thank you for confirming that above all else, elite prospects want to win and go to the NFL.  Harbaugh staff having to work harder to recruit is squarely his fault for his lack of success.  OSU will continue to use Harbaugh to negatively recruit us.  We will have no answer for when OSU tells a recruit “well he’s never beat us and hasn’t made the CFP and he’s on year 7.  Do you expect that to change?”  We are a non threat.  NIL will not change this for us so anyone thinking it will make us a threat, keep dreaming.

bronxblue

July 15th, 2021 at 10:05 PM ^

Late to the article but a great read.

Nothing about the NIL stuff surprises me, and I agree UM is likely to draw a line in the sand a couple yards before other programs.  They'll likely still occupy the "pretty good, not elite" level they've been in for most of their history, but if they can sometimes accumulate the talent to make a run that's enough for me.

I do wonder if Nua turns it around this year as it relates to recruiting.  I am sure Seth knows more than me but right now Nua and Hart seem to be scuttling a bit as it pertains to recruiting guys they're gunning for, though obviously Hart had the excuse of just getting to UM.  

 

SoccerDancer

July 16th, 2021 at 12:37 AM ^

Great write up at the end of the article, and it's just so glaring what's going on. So the TSDS has "SIX" 5* in this class.  Yes "6". For who??? Ryan Day? Get real.  When you have 14 5* on your roster your coach could be Bob Davie or Clay Helton and still win 11 games.