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|11 hours 32 min ago||All MSU QBs wear a brace on their plant leg, it's||
All MSU QBs wear a brace on their plant leg, it's just something the team has done for a while now. Saved Cook from a near certain season ending injury last year
|14 hours 15 min ago||probably because they have decent pass D until 3rd||
probably because they have decent pass D until 3rd down (3rd and long is a "passing down"), then they give up tons of yards? that would make them successful a lot of the time but really bad on passing downs.
|1 day 9 hours ago||Comparing these two is a fun exercise. I think||
Comparing these two is a fun exercise. I think Michigan has the better D line, MSU 13 had better linebackers, and the DBs are probably a wash. Plus it looks like both teams will have the best CB in college football in their respective years.
|1 day 13 hours ago||I love how people on here day injuries don't||
I love how people on here day injuries don't matter, then bring up injured players on your own team. Look, injuries do matter. You'd rather have Mario than RJS, that's just the way it is. If MSU loses Saturday, it will be because the guys on the field for MSU weren't good enough to beat the guys on the field for Michigan.
Going into this year, I honestly would have thought that MSU could win with a hodge podge collection of dudes. but right now they'll need all hands on deck to even complete. If we're missing 1 or 2 starting OL, Cook might not make it to Sunday.
|2 days 16 hours ago||Loved the de-fense chant at the end of the game.||
Loved the de-fense chant at the end of the game. Very cool to see that from 100,000.
|1 week 3 hours ago||I always compare to MSU guys||
I always compare to MSU guys, so look at him vs Dennard from two years ago. I think he's 1 inch shorter and about 20lbs lighter. Probably a little better in coverage (MSU system had Dennard only doing a couple coverages I think). Dennard was stronger.
Dennard ended up being a 1st round pick.
Now Dennard is the nickel back for the Bengals in year 2.
I think it's totally reasonable for Lewis to follow that same path. but he's not getting tons of hype, so maybe 2nd or 3rd round this year is a good projection.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||it's mainly youth||
Right now, I'm hoping it's just youth. Breaking in two new corners, then to have one go down for the season, means that no one has any experience. 4 of our 6 LBs have little to no experience before this season. There's been growing pains.
Remember the last two years when Michigan was all about the "right to rush four"? week it turns out having a lights out secondary where you have the right to rush seven is pretty great for Michigan this year.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||re MSU||
I think anyone who has watched MSU this year has seen how bad our pass defense is. We've been propped up by being very good against inside runs and in short yardage. Pass D is something we need to improve on, but I'm not sure it's something we'll be able to say is above average at any point this year.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||I do. MSU has given up chunks of years to everyone||
I do. MSU has given up chunks of years to everyone they played this year. I'm really concerned about our depth, given that we've lost two D starters for the year and our starting captain LB missed last week's game. we're thin in the back 7.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Coming from an MSU fan, I don't have a problem||
Coming from an MSU fan, I don't have a problem with this or painting the diag... during the week of the MSU/UM game. I think it's a fun college prank.
But doing it outside of that week is pretty stupid.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||patellar tendon of the preferred method now I||
patellar tendon of the preferred method now I believe. Less reinjury risk.
Dead guy tendons do still have years of wear and tear on them, and they came from a dead guy, so you know....
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Brian Allen||
MSU spilts up the seniors and they draft, so Cook and Jack Allen weren't eligible to be drafted. The younger Allen did get taken over Conklin, but that might have just been for show, he was wearing a suit, they had a jersey presentation, etc. still a good young lineman.
|12 weeks 11 hours ago||love this||
This is one of my favorite pieces all year. Great way to see a preview of the best guys on all the teams.
And the snark, gotta love that too
|15 weeks 1 day ago||I have it on Android, really like||
I have it on Android, really like it
|21 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah, I think MSU only requires 13 credits in||
Yeah, I think MSU only requires 13 credits in specific areas, and Michigan requires 15. The numbers could be wrong, but the idea is the same.
|21 weeks 5 days ago||Thanks for the info on him. of the areas he||
Thanks for the info on him. of the areas he struggles, what can be improved? A guy probably isn't going to get more athletic, but can he get better with his hips and leverage?
|21 weeks 5 days ago||kinda true||
I believe all big ten schools except Northwestern have the same GPA requirements, but some have requirements on what classes you need have taken in high school too. So a guy might not be admitted based on that
|34 weeks 6 days ago||Oh yeah, I bet he's fuming.||
Oh yeah, I bet he's fuming. If he can take something as dumb as a stake and make it a huge issue, what can he do with an actual slight to the program?
|34 weeks 6 days ago||Oh man, I wish I could have||
Oh man, I wish I could have seen this thread before now. Hopefully some rational people still exist on this board.
The idea that MSU is trending down is a click-bait fallacy. MSU has never been in a more stable place as a program or athletic department. We are reinvesting all our B1G Ten network money into new facilities, better coaching, and better #branding. You can see that in this past recruiting class, where we had serious interest from places like Florida, Georgia (where we've recruited well recently), Texas, and Arizona.
The idea that Michigan and PSU are going to cause the downfall of MSU is a stretch too. Penn State has was appears to be Brady Hoke 2.0 (great recruiter, terrible O-line, laughable clock management). I'll hold off on being scared of them until I see something other than complete fluke wins. Michigan finally has a coach that can take them back to the top. And I expect them to get there in the near future (probably not 2015). But Michigan being good won't make MSU bad. It will just make Michigan good. Michigan, OSU, and MSU (then maybe PSU) could all be great prorams and it would just make the B1G East a murders row.
If all three are ranked in the top 15 every single year, does that mean that MSU is failing? NO! I'll take a consistent top 15 team pushing for B1G champions every couple years in a heartbeat. I remember John L and Bobby WIlliams. I know what it can be like at the bottom, and a competitive top 15 team is more than okay by me.
|35 weeks 5 days ago||I'd guess the lack of SEC offers is more due to||
I'd guess the lack of SEC offers is more due to geographic reasons than talent ones. That league doesn't need to leave it's region to take flyers on some projects.
Most of the guys listed had tiny offer lists, but a couple of them had UCLA/Oregon/ND, which I would say are good offers for a guy on the west coast to get.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||not sure a 1-3-1 is the best solution, because I||
not sure a 1-3-1 is the best solution, because I think with Dawson/schilling you open up a few lob/easy rebound opportunities. If I'm Michigan I think I'd rather play man and force MSU to win with Dawson/schilling creating their own offense. MSU is a very good passing team, and their shooting against zone defenses has been good this year.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||anyone know what the sat/GPA sliding scale is too||
Anyone know what the sat/GPA sliding scale is to get admitted to a big ten school?
I thought all B1Gs except Northwestern have the same GPA requirements for athletes, is that true or am I making it up?
|38 weeks 3 days ago||not sure playing in the NFL is a prereq for having||
not sure playing in the NFL is a prereq for having "next level talent recognition and development." Just means you have former NFL athletes.
|43 weeks 5 days ago||The rationalization is strong||
The rationalization is strong with this thread.
Injuries aren't a made up excuse. It's like Get Jim Harbough said, when your best guys aren't their best, it hurts your team. Hurt MSU (and Michigan) last year, has hurt both this year.
|43 weeks 6 days ago||Uh, I guess because Stauskas||
Uh, I guess because Stauskas raised his game a ton in college whereas Hardaway was basically similar all three years he was in school.
Hardaway yr 1: 108.8 ORtg, 12% ast rate, 11% TO rate, 48%/36.7%/76.5% 2PT/3PT/FT
Hardaway yr 3: 106.7 ORtg, 13% ast rate, 15% TO rate, 48%/37.4%/69.4% 2PT/3PT/FT
That's not really a ton of improvement (and his role in the offense basically stayed the same). Seems more like just a guy getting older, not exactly better. But my initial rankings was more "just a gut feeling" than this actual analysis.
|44 weeks 10 hours ago||Lil bro||
HOT TAKE ALERT:
Beilein's development has so far only produced two NBA players of note: Burke and Stauskas. LeVert will join those ranks soon enough I think. But GRIII, Mitch were 5 stars who played in college like 5 stars and were drafted like 5 stars, not really any improvement (though we didn't see enough of McGary to know what he could have done). Hardaway is doing what he always did, shooting everything.
1. HOLY CRAP SHANNON BROWN HAS STARTED FOR THE HEAT. That's not a great sign for them. I'm really impressed that he's been in the league for this long. He's a 5 star type player that Izzo let ball.
2. Harris is not in a great situation right now, but he's only 20. I'm hoping he can get some playing time this year and work into the rotation. At 6'2", he'll either need to grow or become a servicable PG.
3. I wouldn't call Richardson an NBA player anymore, he hasn't played in nearly two years. but he was good while he was there.
4. Kalin Lucas is my great "what if?" He was never the same after that torn Achilles, but I'll always root for him.
5. I didn't think Green would be this good of a pro. Here's his stats from Basketball-Reference: 13.3 pts, 6.7 rebs a night in 32 minutes. Started every game for the best team in the league right now. That's a pretty good example of Izzo development. Though Green was always a smart player, he just needed to lose weight and improve athleticism (as much as you can improve something you're born with).
|46 weeks 4 days ago||the minutes||
I don't think the minutes matter as much in Michigan's sytem. If Irvin, LeVert, and Walton can take turns shouldering the offensive load (ie creating shots for themselves and others), that can give the other two a chance to sit in the corner and rest a little. Plus with 4 TV timeouts a half, plus 12 total Timeouts between coaches, you can have a lot of built in rest that doesn't involve taking them off the court.
With Burke/Nik, those guys were playing 35-38 every game and needed to carry the load more than any of these 3 do. I do think getting them to 35 is probably ideal (coach B doesn't like 38-40 either I'd guess), but Beilein has never really shyed away from playing his stars all game.
|47 weeks 4 days ago||MSU has 7 right now, same as UM. OSU is at 4 I||
MSU has 7 right now, same as UM. OSU is at 4 I believe.
MSUs include Jason Richardson, who I don't think has played since 2013
|48 weeks 1 day ago||MSU seems about right||
I think you need to make a "Denzel Valentine explodes in every direction" tag on this site. You'll use it a handful of times this year. I also think MSU could be pretty good defensively, but the offense could struggle in the grind it out B1G.
Wouldn't be suprised if we lost to Purdue like 49-44 or something this year. Also wouldn't be suprised if we beat OSU and maybe Wisconsin. Probably looking at like 11-7 or so in B1G play.
|49 weeks 4 days ago||#BrandonForever||