OT-ish: Devery Hamilton to Duke
Stanford offensive lineman (and former Michigan commit) Devery Hamilton committed to Duke, where he should be immediately eligible as a grad transfer. Watching film of Hamilton last year, I was not super impressed, so I don't think this is a big miss. But I still thought it was worth mentioning, since I know a lot of people were wondering whether he would end up back at Michigan.
On a side note, Duke's new offensive line coach is Greg Frey. So a former Michigan commit will be coached by a former Michigan coach. That doesn't mean anything, but it's an odd coincidence.
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:15 PM ^
KJ Costello to Miss St.
February 4th, 2020 at 7:05 AM ^
Imagine a future job interview (post-NFL if he gets that far) with someone ignorant of football:
So, I see that you went to Stanford. Very nice! And then ... Mississippi State. Please explain.
February 4th, 2020 at 7:41 AM ^
One costs $60K a year and one pays $60K?
February 4th, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
With room and board, Stanford is $75k with no financial aid
February 4th, 2020 at 7:59 AM ^
Mike Leach
February 4th, 2020 at 12:12 PM ^
If you're a grad transfer QB, no reason not to go play for Leach. Throw the ball a bajillion times and probably play yourself into draft position. Gardner Minshew is a great selling point for Leach now
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:19 PM ^
Kid is going to make NFL money not playing in the NFL.
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:50 PM ^
He’s going to make many millions ? Idk about that lol.
February 3rd, 2020 at 11:27 PM ^
The minimum NFL salary is $480k and the average career is what, 4 years? A Duke grad can easily earn $3-4M over their career. And tax-wise, it’s better to spread out your earnings over several years. These guys who think they have it made because they made the league are the same ones that are broke 5-10 years after they are no longer playing.
February 4th, 2020 at 4:49 AM ^
Uh....I could be wrong, but I think this is a joke about KJ going to Miss St (bagman) to play, and not Hamilton going to Duke.
February 4th, 2020 at 5:56 AM ^
No lol I’m saying a kid with Stanford and Duke degrees is going to do very well in life.
February 4th, 2020 at 6:50 AM ^
My bad, I misspoke.
February 4th, 2020 at 6:49 AM ^
Doesn't it really depend on the career path one takes? You are just arbitrarily throwing out figures. According to Biz journals the average starting salary for a Duke grad is $53,000 per yr. Mid career is $142,000. And tax-wise, it’s better to spread out your earnings over several years. What are you basing this on? Bad money managers, are bad money managers no matter how they earn their money.
February 4th, 2020 at 9:51 AM ^
If you have a 40 year career and you are making 142,000 for the last 20, you are making $2.8 million for those years. $53,000 for the first 20 years is another million, so $3 to $4 million over a career is quite a conservative estimate.
If you make $1 million in year 1 and nothing for the next 9 vs making $100,000 for each of ten years, much more money is taxed at a much higher rate in scenario 1 (presuming you make it in the same form (e.g. salary vs investment income)..
February 4th, 2020 at 10:49 AM ^
The only problem with my path to NFL millions is that you have to work 40 years.
Actually, if you marry well (financially speaking,) invest well and live within your means, one can succeed reasonably well in this country.
I assume a Duke grad degree bumps up the starting salary a little more. But what’s also important is doing a good job every year. My company gives raises in a 2-4 or 3-5% range. The difference between annual 2% raises and 4% raises is huge. I’ll leave the math for you.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:00 PM ^
In a silo, I would absolutely take $1M today and have the income taxed now at 37% than I would get $100k taxed at 22% per year over 10 years.
Your initial take home pay would be $630k but if you invest at a 10% ARR, and pay long term capital gains tax of 15% on withdrawals equivalent to your net pay from a $100k/year salary, you come out ahead by $150-200k.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:41 PM ^
Agree with mgoKev. Having [$630k] now is a nice nest egg if you invest it. Getting to the pros even for a couple of years can make a big difference in you financial well-being. If KJ Costello is going to pass happy Miss St. it might give him a 50/50 chance of playing in the pros and would be worth more than going to [Duke]. Linemen don't need to put up gaudy numbers to go pro. Hamilton going to Duke is a good move for him. He's going to have country club connections from Stanford and Duke. Not a bad thing if the NFL doesn't work out.
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:31 PM ^
Huh, I remember thinking he would be pretty good. But then I am not a football scout or even a Civil War-era Army scout.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:02 AM ^
A cub scout, maybe?
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^
Stanford to Duke suggests an actual interest in academics that goes beyond lip service.
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:35 PM ^
I watched him in particular in their opener against NW this year, was not at all impressed. He looked light and easy to push around mostly on the interior, granted NW had a decent D line. I would rather keep open an opportunity for one of our younger dudes.
One of those DT's on the other hand...
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:48 PM ^
Did we pursue?
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
It's so funny because people lost their mind when Michigan missed on him but it was Alaric Jackson who they should have held onto.
As always, recruiting is tough to predict and OL are even less predictable.
February 4th, 2020 at 6:57 AM ^
Hamilton kind of did us dirty (recruiting is fickle I get it), and we very unwisely did Alaric Jackson dirty in turn.
February 3rd, 2020 at 10:55 PM ^
Good for him, I wish him well. But our guys are all looking pretty ready to go, so let them go!
February 4th, 2020 at 7:52 AM ^
Anytime you're breaking in 4 new starters extra guys is helpful.
February 4th, 2020 at 8:10 AM ^
...unless you bring in a mediocre 5th year senior to play ahead of a young guy with a higher ceiling, who then transfers.
February 4th, 2020 at 8:35 AM ^
Thank you...this is the issue. Coach the kids you've got-there's plenty of talent on this roster.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:12 PM ^
You can still do that. Having him on the roster does not necessitate playing him over other guys. Play the best players.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:11 PM ^
You can still bring him and let him compete and then if he's not better let him provide depth. One is a transfer issue, the other is a coaching issue. I can't comment on how he should be used because we don't know if he's better or worse than what we have.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
Any grad transfer that doesn't get assurances that he's going to start is an idiot. Hamilton does not appear to be an idiot.
February 4th, 2020 at 8:53 PM ^
You can do that in a vacuum.
We don't live in a vacuum.
February 4th, 2020 at 8:32 AM ^
We'll lose by 3 TDs to OSU with or without him.
February 4th, 2020 at 8:37 AM ^
...and why would this be so, Mr. Fatalist???
February 4th, 2020 at 9:27 AM ^
Considering how that's been the case 14 out of the last 15 years, I'm gonna say it's because history is not on our side. Also, because OSU is killing it on the recruiting trail while we're picking up PWOs
February 4th, 2020 at 9:37 AM ^
Anything on the Stanford DT's the staff has been pursuing?
February 4th, 2020 at 11:02 AM ^
How's his ankle flexion?
Asking for a friend.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:05 PM ^
I recall he started early in his career and people were upset Michigan didn't land him. Did he just not develop much over his career?
February 4th, 2020 at 8:55 PM ^
People were upset because Michigan's line was not good in 2017 when Hamilton was earning playing time at Stanford.
When Michigan's line was good in 2018 and 2019, people weren't really clamoring for Hamilton anymore.