Magnus

January 2nd, 2014 at 6:38 PM ^

"So you're Ok with the way these kids sound?  And are you also Ok with how most of them sound exactly the same after several years in an institution of "higher learning"?"

Oh my. Where should I go with this? First of all, I realize that some of these kids are from the south and don't sound exactly like me - and nor do many college-educated folk from the south. Second of all, I also realize that "Ok" does not need to capitalized, and "Ok" by itself is not a word. You need to add an "ay" to the end. I wouldn't be bringing this up, of course, except for the fact that you're acting as if you're so much more educated than these kids and yet you can't use a very basic word like "okay" correctly. Third of all, your assertion that these kids sound the same after several years of college is anecdotal at best.

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Buccaneer_9

January 2nd, 2014 at 6:51 PM ^

From Merriam-Webster:

1OK

adverb or adjective \ō-ˈkā, in assenting or agreeing also ˈō-ˌkā\

: fairly good : not very good or very bad

: acceptable or agreeable

: not ill, hurt, unhappy, etc.

 

What were you saying?

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Everyone Murders

January 2nd, 2014 at 7:18 PM ^

Of course Magnus can speak for himself, but it's a board so I can pile on.  He seemed to be saying that "Ok" is an improper spelling, while either of "OK" or "okay" are ... uhm ... OK.  Your cut-and-paste definition supports his point. 

One could conclude that his deeper point is that you are being a tad hypocritical in criticizing "these black kids" when you used an improper spelling in your post.  Glass houses and all that. 

The main thing, though, is that your posts make you seem insecure and mean-spirited.  The UA players are 18 year-old kids speaking in front of millions of viewers, and are probably nervous.  Rather than being happy for them as they make the biggest decision of their lives, you are propping up your ego by differentiating yourself from these kids and insulting them.  (Who knows, maybe you never played college sports and need to rag on these kids to feel better about yourself.)

You're welcome. 

 

 

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HarBooYa

January 2nd, 2014 at 11:05 PM ^

Measuring the lack of improvement? It seems you are just forecasting a stereotype. I have actually taught and coached in the Deep South. I am from the Midwest. I Couldn't understand my kids I was teaching the first couple of months I was down there. Then when I picked up the dialect it was clear I underestimated intelligences across the board. Further, I had some kids go to some d-1 schools playing various sports and their speech markedly improved, mostly because they simply socialized with a broader population, but also because they were in real school, not the crappy environment they were forced to initially slog through. I don't think there exists any real evidence anywhere that these kids' language skills do not improve, in fact I would say with near certainty that that is almost universally factually inaccurate.

If you truly are a black man, I am surprised by how I empathetic you sound, but your prerogative I guess. Sorry to be sensitive about it, but I taught these children and it feels a bit insulting.

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Everyone Murders

January 3rd, 2014 at 8:24 AM ^

 

I'm not insulting these kids. ...
They sound ignorant.

You have a curious way of "not insulting" people.  Maybe in your affluent mostly-white home town of Alpharetta (or Dunwoody, or whatevs) describing folks as "ignorant" isn't insulting.  In the rest of the country it is.

Two things in your posts are really irritating, and I can't tell if you're oblivious or just trolling.  The first is that you assume that just because someone speaks "street" for an interview that they are incapable of speaking "proper" English.  That's a faulty assumption. (Cf., for example, a Kanye West interview with a Kanye West song.)  The second is that you assume that universities are doing nothing to help students learn "proper" English.  That's another faulty assumption.

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jdon

January 2nd, 2014 at 11:56 PM ^

are you familiar with the concept of code switching?

I woud argue that the kids (black and white) are wearing jerseys, playing football, and speaking  in a much less formal manner due to that...

just some food for thought.

jdon

 

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Slim_Hype

January 2nd, 2014 at 6:15 PM ^

Cut the shit. You do realize that these kids are all from the south which means most of them have thick accents and on top of that they are in front of a camera on national television. More goes into it than what's on the surface. That's coming from a black man.

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Victor Valiant

January 2nd, 2014 at 6:20 PM ^

Les Miles probably feels like he got kicked in and around the groin 10 times today so far. He's basically been the #2 pick for every uncommited guy in this game so far save for 1.

Edit: The one guy he got called them the "University of LSU" as well, so there is that.

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robmorren2

January 2nd, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^

Fournette hasn't been overwhelmingly impressive. There definitely aren't 13 (or whatever rank he is) RBs in America better than Jeff Jones. Cook looks good as well.

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Mr. Yost

January 2nd, 2014 at 8:39 PM ^

Speight: Looked inconsistent. His first long pass was poorly played by the DB, wasn't a good throw. However, he did show some escapability. His best pass came when he was flushed out of the pocket to his right, kept his eyes downfield and delivered a strike to his WR. Had a bad pick in the endzone where he had 2 guys wide open and tried to force it.

I don't see him playing over Morris in 2 years. That said, he'll certainly have time to develop his arm and grow at Michigan.

Skillset reminds me of: Blake Bortles (almost scary how much they compare on the field - even in the things they don't do well).

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Peppers: All of the hype is warranted. He's clearly a top athlete. IMO he should get some snaps on offense next season as well. Start him at nickelback from day 1 and let him grow into a boundary CB position behind Raymon Taylor. He's a willing tackler but could use some coaching to get an A in the category.

Skillset reminds me of: Patrick Peterson (not nearly as good of course, but certainly could be one day)

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Bushell-Beatty: Played out of position at LT. Looked pudgy as well. Got TORCHED by a speed rush. That said, could be a very good OG, it says alot that they put him at LT to begin with...move him inside and it shouldn't be an issue. Needs to work on punch and first step. Don't see him contributing in the next 3 years, but could/should start as a RS Junior and RS Senior.

Skillset reminds me of: Steve Schilling (with a little bit of Ricky Barnum sprinkled in)

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Mone: Huge, effective, exactly what I'd expect. IMO this kid will be an anchor for 2-3 years at Michigan. Very strong and seemed to always be in position even when plays weren't going his way. Not much of a pass rush at this point. Just seemed like a rock in the middle that you weren't going to move.

Skillset reminds me of: Vince Wilfork (the "current" Vince Wilfork who's lost a baby step and doesn't have the same pass rush he did 5-10 years ago)

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