Fitzgerald to USC or Texas?

Submitted by massblue on

I have seen a few tweets and this article from Chicago regarding potential opennings at USC and Texas and whether Fitzgerald would take one of these two jobs.  I think USC is more likely as it is a private school similar to NU.  The policitcs of Texas program is tough to handle for a total outsider.

 

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CRISPed in the DIAG

September 9th, 2013 at 10:34 AM ^

The move from Northwestern to a place like USC or Texas would be complete culture shock. Forget about loyalty, those jobs require a heartier and more experienced profile than what Patty Fitzgerald brings to the table.

Wolverines Dominate

September 9th, 2013 at 10:38 AM ^

OK, I immediately saw "Fitzgerald" and thought of Toussaint. I, of course, freaked out, but then I realized which Fitzgerald we're talking about here.

EDIT; If the rumors are true that he was at least talked to about the Michigan job and then said he really wasn't interested in it, then he won't go to USC or Texas if those jobs open. M is a better job than both of those programs.

Brimley

September 9th, 2013 at 10:44 AM ^

My impression of Fitzgerald's talks with Michigan was that, from the beginning, he was using it as leverage for an extension and upgrade of facilities.  Other than Les, he was the only guy who leaked that Brandon called him, and almost immediately, the NW administration moved to give him what he was looking for.  I agree with you that he's not going anywhere.

goblue20111

September 9th, 2013 at 11:19 AM ^

Texas is king in the most fertile recruiting state in the country, beat us in the Rose Bowl and were in the NC title game a few years ago and might have beat Alabama if Colt McCoy didn't get injured. Get real for a second. Both are great programs with great history and far more success recently than Michigan has had. You're delusional if you don't think they're good jobs or that Michigan is unequivocally better.

justingoblue

September 9th, 2013 at 12:17 PM ^

If "best job" means easiest to find success at, I don't think Michigan is in the very top tier, let alone clearly better than Texas or USC. Michigan pretty much has to rely on taking as many players as they can out of Ohio (and the arms of OSU), while both Texas and USC are the teams to beat in the two most talent rich states.

goblue20111

September 9th, 2013 at 1:30 PM ^

You literally don't have to leave Southern California or the state of Texas to pull in top 5 recruiting classes on an annual basis (theoretically assuming other programs don't pick off your top talent). Even then, you're still the big dog in the backyard of a fertile recruiting base. Both programs are as much tradition laden and have as much pride as Michigan does. Take off the maize and blue glasses for 5 minutes. 

Aspyr

September 9th, 2013 at 1:34 PM ^

I disagree. What are the qualifications for being a good NFL coach? He seems to be confident, competitive, smart, a hard worker and is respected by his players. He played in the league (albeit briefly) and the fact that he has made Northwestern a successful program shows that he is a good coach and or leader. He reminds me a little of Jim Harbaugh as a coach actually.

 

 

Needs

September 9th, 2013 at 10:58 AM ^

Having someone take over UT without head coaching experience would be something. That's got to be about the highest pressure job in college football. That said, they did have Muschamp as coach in waiting, and Morris has a lot of experience in Texas as a high school coach (but has only coached at the college level since 2010). I'd be pretty surprised if they went for someone with so little experience in college coaching.

But Kirby Smart...

Come On Down

September 9th, 2013 at 10:42 AM ^

It seems like Fitzgerald wants to be a NW guy for life but other coaches have been in similar situations and have left for various reasons. Rich Rod leaving West Virginia and Bielema leaving Wisconsin immediately come to mind. If Northwestern keeps paying his assistants competitive salaries and keeps their facilities up to par with the rest of the B1G he'll probably stay but if not I could see him going somewhere else.

Hannibal.

September 9th, 2013 at 10:42 AM ^

Please, spread this rumor around enough so that Fitzgerald has to deny it over and over again, creating a big distraction that affects NW's performance on the field.  We want them to suck against us.

(But no, Fitzgerald is at NW for life.  I'd be shocked if he leaves). 

Mmmm Hmmm

September 9th, 2013 at 11:03 AM ^

...suggests that RR was incredibly frustrated by WV's administration and made a [insert your characterization here--Im not going there because it will just be a whopping distraction] decision to leave based on that. Although Fitzgerald may be frustrated by Northwestern's AD, I am not aware of that or any comparable friction. I think it would take that level of friction to pry Fitzgerald to another college program.

chatster

September 9th, 2013 at 3:51 PM ^

USC and Northwestern might be comparable when you consider that they both (1) play their home games in antiquated stadiums, (2) have well respected journalism schools (Annenberg at USC; Medill at Northwestern) and (3) have well respected schools for the arts (USC’s School of Cinematic Arts; Northwestern’s School of Communications.)
 
The last US News rankings had Northwestern at 12 and USC at 24 while, unfortunately Michigan had slipped to 29th.

Needs

September 9th, 2013 at 10:45 AM ^

I can see it from both schools' perspective, as he's a pretty dramatic shift from what each now has. For Texas, it's a shift from the sedate, hands-off Mack Brown to a very involved, enthusiastic guy. For USC, it's a shift from a shady Kiffin to an upright guy who won't have USC in the press for the wrong reasons, plus Fitzgerald seems like an enthusiastic players' guy like Carroll.

For Fitzgerald, though, I doubt it. He's already turned down feelers from Michigan, Penn State, and ND. He's not only a Northwestern guy, he's a Chicago guy. And Northwestern's taken steps to improve their facilities and have shown they'll do what they can, financially, to keep him.

I think the only job that he might be interested in is the Bears or maybe the Colts job, but that kind of offer would come after a bit more success, which they're certainly poised for this year and next.

Perkis-Size Me

September 9th, 2013 at 10:46 AM ^

If he wanted to leave Northwestern, he would've by now. That's his alma mater; he loves the school, and the school loves him. I don't think he'd be a very good fit, culturally, at Texas, and as far as USC goes, well, I just don't think he'd want all that spotlight. He seems perfectly comfortable in Evanston, so I'd be shocked if he got up and left for anywhere else.

Zone Left

September 9th, 2013 at 10:47 AM ^

Fitzgerald might potentially leave if he felt he couldn't take Northwestern any higher. Right now, he has his best team while Michigan and OSU are finishing righting their respective ships. If he can't get by us this season, he could see the writing on the wall and leave to reach the highest level in college football.

That said, I still think the odds are pretty slim. He seems like a lifer.

GunnersApe

September 9th, 2013 at 10:56 AM ^

As much a I love chaos at UT and SC I do not want Fitz leaving like Bert. Like above I agree about Fitz not leaving due to his loyalty. There's going to be some scared programs when Texas breaks out the money cannon and points it at someone.

Don

September 9th, 2013 at 10:56 AM ^

with the occasional 10-2 and the NW alumni and fan base will be very happy.

At UT or USC, you go 8-4 or even 9-3 and their alums and fan base want to run you out of town. He'd be a fool to go to either place, unless he simply wants to bank as much money as he can in a short period of time and doesn't care about the impact on his coaching career.

EGD

September 9th, 2013 at 6:44 PM ^

I think this is the bottom line.  There is very little pressure on Fitz to actually win at Northwestern.  It would take a sustained run of losing seasons before he might conceivably face any kind of "hot seat" situation.  That kind of job security is pretty uncommon anywhere in football, let alone at a major conference program.

Farnn

September 9th, 2013 at 11:00 AM ^

Doubt he leaves NW for any job opening.  He's got NW on the rise and is bringing in better and better recruiting classes.  If he can get some facilities upgrades and capitalize on the Chicago area talent while Michigan, OSU and ND go more national I think he can turn NW into at least a biannual threat to win the Western division.

WestQuad

September 9th, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^

Fitzgerald is going to be great at NW and be the king of Chicago for the rest of his life.  He may actually turn NW into a perennial power.  While it is always great to challenge yourself and to be on the biggest stage possible,   I'd rather be Bo Schembechler or Woody Hayes than Bill Parcells or Bill Walsh.  The Bill's are great coaches, but Bo and Woody were Gods.  (When Bo was coach the whole student sectionwould bow down to him as though he were a god.  He was only around my freshman year, but I remeber it happening a few times.)

The loyalty thing was why he who will not be named didn't work.  You don't play for a school, get to coach there and almost lead them to a national championship to bail for the bigger job. For what?  

Those who wanted Fitz for the Michigan job missed the point of what makes Fitz great.  (Good football coach who loves his school.)

 

Meson

September 9th, 2013 at 11:12 AM ^

Fitzgerald has always reminded me (retroactively) a bit of Hoke. I would almost compare him at NW to Hoke at UM; I don't think he's going to leave. It's his school, and he's not a douche like Bret Bielema. I think he's more likely to leave NW than Hoke would leave Michigan, but not by much.

He's got a young team contending for the B1G this year and some nice recruiting classes coming in. For him, I don't think he wants the added pressure at USC and Texas and he's probably got an outside shot at a BCS game over the next few years. Why leave that? The coaches that I can think of that have left a good/decent team in recent years are Rich Rod, Bret Bielema, and Dave Doeren. Rich Rod had extenuating circumstances at WV, Bielema is an ass, and Doeren was at a MAC school.

I think he stays.

LSAClassOf2000

September 9th, 2013 at 11:20 AM ^

I believe that, in 2011, Fitzgerald signed a 10-year extension worth about $1.8 million per year with escalators to keep his pay in line with his conference peers. When we came calling for a few moments back in the day, Northwestern offered to pay the assistants better and expand their facilities. The school, at least, is willing to go to great lengths to keep him in Evanston.

I believe the NU president has even been hugely supportive of Fitzgerald's efforts as well, in part because he has done what he has with this program totally within the academic standards of Northwestern, at least according to the school. It seems like Northwestern is building a support network essentially for Pat Fitzgerald. 

This is not to say he wouldn't leave at some point, but Northwestern seems like they are willing to create a situation where this is a difficult decision.