Bosch, Taco, Dawson all get bumps in new 247 update.
The title says it all. I have a feeling Bosch will creep into five star status on at least one or two sites by the time it's all said and done. Always nice to see our commits get some love.
Offensive lineman Kyle Bosch (Wheaton, Ill./St. Francis) was part of a flurry of Michigan commits this past weekend. The 6-foot-5, 282-pounder is impressive on tape and moved up slightly to No. 42 overall.
Another recent Michigan commit, outside linebacker/jumbo athlete Taco Charlton (Pickertington, Ohio/Central) moves up approximately 50 spots in our Top247- checking in just inside the top 100 at No. 99. After further review of his film and comparing that to his size and athleticism, we felt like Charlton has the type of upside that could not only make him a star in Ann Arbor but also land him in the National Football League one day.
A third Michigan commit to make a big move is offensive lineman David Dawson (Detroit, Mich./Cass Tech). He debuts in the Top247 at No. 195 after further film review.
Article is free: http://247sports.com/Article/More-moves-in-the-Top247-62475
Also, I think Shane was previously 15, and now he is 14. That's already 6 commits in the 247 top 100!
February 21st, 2012 at 7:01 PM ^
Our class is going to be ranked Top # in the country if we finish with who I think we can.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:04 PM ^
Yeah, especially considering some of our higher rated prospects - Isaac, Treadwell, various LBs, etc are still uncommitted.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:46 PM ^
Hate to be Debbie Downer, but we don't have the scholarship numbers for a #1 class this year (at least for Rivals). That being said, I don't know how many teams have started with 10 of 11 consensus 4* guys. That is pretty freakin' incredible.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:50 PM ^
I meant to say Top 3 class
Stupid Autocorrect
February 21st, 2012 at 8:11 PM ^
At the rate we are going (won't continue at this rate...is it possible?), we will have 20 four stars and 2 three stars. Numbers or not that might be able to be a number 1 class. Although Alabama will have a similar ration except with 25 recruits. Damn SEC.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:27 PM ^
Well, we'll have more than 2 3-star guys, but we might not have more than 4 or 5.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:01 PM ^
It's almost a guarantee Shane ends up a 5 star to probably every site (he is top 20 to both 247 and Rivals, and is a 5 star on Scout and ESPN), and Bosch and Fox both have a good shot at being 5 stars too. If we can pull Isaac, he will likely be a 5 star as well, so some of those 4 stars will be 5, which will make the class even better.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:06 PM ^
Isaac, Treadwell, Levenberry all have shots at getting the hallowed fifth star. If we can reel in Pocic as well to finish off of the OL class, we could have 4-5 five-stars.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:03 PM ^
Yeah Michigan has that kind of power. How could a recruiting site question the wisdom of The Hoke.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:23 PM ^
...that when recruits see this, questions cease.
Actually, this sort of builds on the discussion about Michigan's momemntum from last night in that the positive nature of last season's results is breeding a positive perception of the program and the people who commit to it, and that hopefully sways others.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:04 PM ^
Bama will be tough to beat for the top spot in the country I think, but we should have a top 5 class.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:10 PM ^
I too think Bama comes out on top again this year. But, 2013 looks to be a legendary class. I can't say this enough, but Shane Morris is doing work for us right now.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:20 PM ^
I think it will be Bama #1 but Ohio and Michigan will fight for that 2 spot
February 21st, 2012 at 9:04 PM ^
I do not have as much faith in Bama this year. We beat them out for three OL recruits. I know they have the Scholarship #s behind them but I think our quality will be better.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:19 PM ^
When you land the top 2 recruits in the country, you are doing very well.
They are both freaks too. Bama is an unstopabble machine when it comes to recruiting.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:12 PM ^
February 21st, 2012 at 7:13 PM ^
I have been thoroughly impressed with Michigan's ability to diagnose talent at an early level so far. It seems almost every recruit gets bumped up by the experts during the course of the recruiting cycle. Without being able to spot premium talent before everyone else last weekend isn't possible IMHO.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:14 PM ^
It looks like Elmer took a decent drop(maybe 20ish spots) down to #44. Apparently he did not perform that well at the recent midwest combine.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:15 PM ^
No, 247 is just being proactive in "bust"-ing ND players.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:23 PM ^
I get the feeling that Tom Lemming's list will be very different.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:17 PM ^
excellent to see them getting due recognition. I think dawson is slept on a lot and does this mean taco will take objemudia spot? Im too lazy to do research on how mario was ranked but i liked his film better than taco's.
Someone give me their thoughts on Taco VS Ojmabooty
February 21st, 2012 at 7:24 PM ^
If Charlton starts over Ojemudia it will have nothing to do with this rating bump... Or ratings in general.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:30 PM ^
iwasnt trying to imply that I was just wondering who did the sites think was better AND whether you guys had on opinion of who will see field first
February 21st, 2012 at 7:44 PM ^
It looks like Taco is the favorite among the sites, but I would guess that Ojemudia sees the field first, partly because he'll get there a year earlier and partly because Taco is still pretty raw in terms of technique.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:26 PM ^
February 21st, 2012 at 7:26 PM ^
I don't think anyone is taking anyone's spot since neither guy is even there yet. They are both being recruited for essentially the same position, so they'll compete with each other. However, Beyer and Clark are there now, and both will be sophs this fall, so neither of them will be needed early on. This is good, since both Ojemudia and Charlton will need some time to develop, Mario because of weight, Taco because of technique.
Based on body type, it sounds like Taco has the higher ceiling, but Mario has a motor that has been raved about, and he's been crazy productive as a high schooler.
It will be interesting to see how Mattison plays both of them. I could see Mario going in as a pass rushing SAM in passing situations, and Taco being better in run defense based on his size.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:19 PM ^
What's going on with Lewis's lack of love? Everyone says he's the best of the Cass Tech guys but he's only ranked by rivals, and not that highly.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:35 PM ^
He is a 4 star to 247. Scout hasn't even come out with a full list and who knows about ESPN.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:37 PM ^
At least watching his highlight film, I'm more impressed with Lewis' athletic ability than the previous Cass corners. If he goes to some combines, I bet he will move up. I also wonder if his slight build is dropping him a little. I'm more happy that he has some height. Weight can be added, height not so much.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:44 PM ^
How mad were you that you dropped in the rankings?
Terry Richardson was tiny and still rated pretty highly. I still think Lewis moves up in the rankings. If he doesn't, I'm not too concerned because many have said he might be the best CB to come out of Cass.
February 21st, 2012 at 11:09 PM ^
I wasn't mad at all. In fact, as long as I remain a ND commit, I hope I completely drop out of the top 100, and have a healthy but marginal career, losing to UM every time.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:39 PM ^
Rivals rates him higher than they rated both Richardson and Hollowell...
February 21st, 2012 at 9:01 PM ^
Lewis will be really good,esp. if he can come in and redshirt.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:21 PM ^
"Oh Michigan offered him a scholarship?? Well upon further review of his film clearly this guy should be in the top 100. We totally knew that, we just hadn't gotten around to updating it yet. Seriously guys, we were just about to get to it. We're very credible"
February 21st, 2012 at 7:38 PM ^
IMO, 247 has the least lazy approach. They view their entire list as being fluid and they make moves up and down based on new tape, live analysis of games/camps/combines.
I'm not saying they are better than the others, but they update their rankings the most. While the other services only update them once every couple months.
February 21st, 2012 at 7:52 PM ^
February 21st, 2012 at 8:01 PM ^
Turn it around when you have a 3 star with big offers he probably should be bumped up.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:02 PM ^
February 21st, 2012 at 8:16 PM ^
They may update their rankings more frequently than the other sites, but their team ranking algorithm seems to have some flaws, at least at this stage of the game. How is Texas A&M ranked higher than Michigan and Florida with significantly fewer 4 star recruits but comparable numbers overall? It seems that overall number of commits is disproportionally valued. I don't think anyone would take Texas A&M's currrent class over Michigan's or Florida's, which are ranked 2 and 3, respectively.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:37 PM ^
February 21st, 2012 at 9:07 PM ^
You are correct about that. Michigan has already accumulated about 90% of the points it will eventually earn in that system. I believe they mentioned it's set to count the top 17 commits in a class. They may adjust that number later in the year after most teams have surpassed that amount of commits.
February 21st, 2012 at 9:25 PM ^
February 21st, 2012 at 9:28 PM ^
Explanation
Each recruit is weighted in the rankings according to a Gaussian distribution formula (a bell curve), where a team's best recruit is worth the most points. You can think of a team's point score as being the sum of ratings of all the team's commits where the best recruit is worth 100% of his rating value, the second best recruit is worth nearly 100% of his rating value, down to the last recruit who is worth a small fraction of his rating value. This formula ensures that all commits contribute at least some value to the team's score without heavily rewarding teams that have several more commitments than others.
Readers familiar with the Gaussian distribution formula will note that we used the value 6 for σ because this was the standard deviation for total number of commits between schools as they were ranked during the 2011 recruitment year, the year this formula was developed. This standard deviation creates a bell curve with an inflection point near the average number of players recruited per team.
So basically, it's a numbers thing. We have a much higher average. It's not something to be too concerned about this early in the process.
February 21st, 2012 at 8:31 PM ^
i am still smiling from the weekend! wow
February 21st, 2012 at 9:06 PM ^
Woot! The most camp film that is shown, the better these will all turn out. In reality, it doesn't really matter how they are ranked, but it does make it nice. Shows the obvious care that Michigan puts into learning about the potential of these new recruits!
February 21st, 2012 at 9:32 PM ^
We have a good shot at having every single one of our recruits as 4 stars and and in the rivals 250 but 2 (hill and dukes) That is great, and either way with bama having 25 5 and 4 stars some of those will have to sit, that rates our class as even with theirs
February 21st, 2012 at 9:36 PM ^
3 of these guys will be 4 stars on scout then book it!!!GO BLUE!!!
February 21st, 2012 at 9:55 PM ^
February 21st, 2012 at 10:33 PM ^
I wish Hoke would point those fingers at my bank account...
...I might have some money.
February 21st, 2012 at 10:34 PM ^
Consensus Number 1 on every single site, probably going to be 4 more that pop up before the years over.